2020 Honda crf250r reviews

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Some reviews are out on the bike with the new changes made. Seems to be better all around. What do you think about the new bike?
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sandtrack315 8/15/2019 5:12pm
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If you’re a Honda fan it seems like an upgrade for sure. If you want the best 250F I still think it’s gonna be blue this year.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 8/16/2019 7:34am
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It’s looking like everything is a positive for the new bike.

Wondering how it compares to a 2019 with Exhaust and Vortex ecU. The cam and 2/3rd gear change seem to be the biggest upgrade.
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geeZ177 8/16/2019 8:06am
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Early reports seem vague about the new bottom end power. IMO I get the impression that it's good compared to the 2019 but still not enough. Will be interesting to see how things stack up in the shootouts.
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NoMuff2Tuff 8/16/2019 8:51am
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It just needs a little more bottom end then the 19 to get it going better out of the turns to make it more rideable at lower engine speeds for the average rider. The Honda has the most over square bore at 79mm x 50.9mm and therefore the slowest piston speed at a given RPM. At very low RPM it doesn’t create enough vacuum to draw air and fuel in as say the Yamaha, Suzuki or older Kawi motor, it’s a matter of physics and leverage. What it does have is more potential to make more power at much higher RPM and it seems like the trend all 250f’s are going. KTM/Husky has this, Kawasaki just did it with a bigger bore and shorter stroke and I wouldn’t be surprised Yamaha/Suzuki follow. It’s still hard to argue about Yamaha’s power delivery as it is now, seems very balanced. Give me a great chassis and suspension, motor issues can be sorted out.
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sandtrack315 8/16/2019 9:11am
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I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel comfortable on it, but wish it had a bit more nimble / precise cornering, should I stick with a 2020 YZ250F or go to the Honda. He said to stick with the Yamaha.
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trilldill 8/16/2019 1:43pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel...
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel comfortable on it, but wish it had a bit more nimble / precise cornering, should I stick with a 2020 YZ250F or go to the Honda. He said to stick with the Yamaha.
Has Keefer rode the 2020 Honda yet? If not he’s just going off speculation
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NoMuff2Tuff 8/16/2019 1:45pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel...
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel comfortable on it, but wish it had a bit more nimble / precise cornering, should I stick with a 2020 YZ250F or go to the Honda. He said to stick with the Yamaha.
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Has Keefer rode the 2020 Honda yet? If not he’s just going off speculation
He rode it. It looks like all the mags rode it at the same place. I think Fox Raceway
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GPrider 8/16/2019 1:59pm
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sounds like the 2020 picked up a lot of low/mid. Just what it needed to be a winner all around. Solid bike now
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CarlinoJoeVideo 8/16/2019 9:49pm
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sandtrack315 wrote:
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel...
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel comfortable on it, but wish it had a bit more nimble / precise cornering, should I stick with a 2020 YZ250F or go to the Honda. He said to stick with the Yamaha.
It’s going to be hard to compete with the YZ250F engine. I think any brand will need a full engine redesign to beat it.

Have you looked into the Works chassis Lab engine mounts to help your Yamaha with front end feel. Pretty much every Yamaha race team uses them.
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geeZ177 8/17/2019 7:57am
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It’s going to be hard to compete with the YZ250F engine. I think any brand will need a full engine redesign to beat it. Have you...
It’s going to be hard to compete with the YZ250F engine. I think any brand will need a full engine redesign to beat it.

Have you looked into the Works chassis Lab engine mounts to help your Yamaha with front end feel. Pretty much every Yamaha race team uses them.
I agree with this. If Honda wants to run with the YZF, it will take a whole new engine. But with this one only being on it's third year, Honda is doing what it can with it's current "new" engine.
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wwdiii 8/17/2019 8:52am
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I'm holding out for 2021 Suzuki RMZ...............with bold new graphics!!!
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GPrider 8/17/2019 9:48am
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with the engine improvements and solid handling the new Honda is a better all around package than the YZ from what I'm hearing. And that's more than one tester. Honda guys are finally getting a 250f to be stoked with!
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CarlinoJoeVideo 8/17/2019 9:20pm
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with the engine improvements and solid handling the new Honda is a better all around package than the YZ from what I'm hearing. And that's more...
with the engine improvements and solid handling the new Honda is a better all around package than the YZ from what I'm hearing. And that's more than one tester. Honda guys are finally getting a 250f to be stoked with!
Where did you read/hear that it’s better than the Yamaha 250? That’s hard to believe.

I love the CRF platform and can think it’s a top 3 bike but that Yamaha is pretty incredible out of the box.
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kiwifan 8/18/2019 12:02am
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From what i hear the bike is better in the bottom and mid end than 2019 with same top end power....so will be pretty good. A YZF might have slightly more low end response but unlikely it is a big gap like it has been in 2018 and slightly lesser gap in 2019.

I agree that the updated 2 gear in the transmission and larger radiator is a good change
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sandtrack315 8/18/2019 5:28am
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sandtrack315 wrote:
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel...
I messaged Keefer and said, basically, I have the 19 YZ250F, ride for fun at mid-pack B level, I love the motor and KYB stuff, feel comfortable on it, but wish it had a bit more nimble / precise cornering, should I stick with a 2020 YZ250F or go to the Honda. He said to stick with the Yamaha.
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
It’s going to be hard to compete with the YZ250F engine. I think any brand will need a full engine redesign to beat it. Have you...
It’s going to be hard to compete with the YZ250F engine. I think any brand will need a full engine redesign to beat it.

Have you looked into the Works chassis Lab engine mounts to help your Yamaha with front end feel. Pretty much every Yamaha race team uses them.
I actually like the front end feel. It’s really planted. The whole bike just isn’t as nimble as the CRF.

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