2020 Honda CRF450R

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Edited Date/Time 8/12/2019 8:09pm
Got to sit on one today.

There are only minor changes on the bike.

1) The black stripe on the radiator shrouds is thicker.

2) All the 450’s come with traction control

3) Mapping comes with new settings

4) Lowered the battery 1.1 inches

5) They ditched the lower rotor guard on the rear wheel.

Note: I love Honda’s and Suzuki’s. I’m interested in the traction control on the 2020 more than anything.


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reded 8/1/2019 5:56pm
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If Honda made a 350 I might convert, they look good but I’m not in good enough shape to manhandle a 450.
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Racer111 8/1/2019 5:59pm
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reded wrote:
If Honda made a 350 I might convert, they look good but I’m not in good enough shape to manhandle a 450.
There is a fix for the not being in good enough shape. May I suggest the “Ryno is not human” thread. TongueTongueLaughingLaughing
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Buy it...quit being a cheap fucker Tongue

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yz25 8/1/2019 6:48pm
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Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
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Racer111 8/1/2019 7:21pm
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
Any day. That’s what I’m getting.
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
Racer111 wrote:
Any day. That’s what I’m getting.
Jealous, us Canadians are hard pressed to get 1 up here. Went to 3 dealerships in my area and none could confirm if they would get one. Might have to make a trip south of the boarder.
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MX558 8/1/2019 7:34pm
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Still shitty rigid ass frame
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
Racer111 wrote:
Any day. That’s what I’m getting.
I thought you had one? And like the rmz better.
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colvin227 8/1/2019 8:52pm
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Wonder if there will be any change that will make the bike less finicky to set up......
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MX558 wrote:
Still shitty rigid ass frame
No offense but I agree. I spent year one trying to make it good. Bought a Yamaha and I haven't even toughed but sag and I way happier.
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H4L 8/1/2019 10:47pm
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
Put a down payment on one about 3 weeks ago & was told by my Honda rep. it would be around Aug. 8th..
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FIREfish148 8/1/2019 10:58pm
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I was looking at the prices last night between the kx and crf. I like the look of the crf's way more though. Not sure if i want to get rid of the 2007 or just keep it.
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
Racer111 wrote:
Any day. That’s what I’m getting.
mxb2 wrote:
I thought you had one? And like the rmz better.
I sold my 2019 WE. I am going to give the 2020WE a shot due to the Traction control.
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Racer111 wrote:
I sold my 2019 WE. I am going to give the 2020WE a shot due to the Traction control.
i'm stupid mofo but i can't imagine conventional traction control in works on mx bikes.

I mean that the rear wheel at like 95% of cases rotates much faster than the bike moves forward due to the soft and erosive ground under the rear wheel. As i imagine conventional TC it is basically very precise "rear brake" affecting the engine quickly and directly. But maybe some of you fellers can educate me.

thx in advance.
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Racer111 wrote:
I sold my 2019 WE. I am going to give the 2020WE a shot due to the Traction control.
Last Braaap wrote:
i'm stupid mofo but i can't imagine conventional traction control in works on mx bikes. I mean that the rear wheel at like 95% of cases...
i'm stupid mofo but i can't imagine conventional traction control in works on mx bikes.

I mean that the rear wheel at like 95% of cases rotates much faster than the bike moves forward due to the soft and erosive ground under the rear wheel. As i imagine conventional TC it is basically very precise "rear brake" affecting the engine quickly and directly. But maybe some of you fellers can educate me.

thx in advance.
To my understanding its just a less aggressive map in the lower to mid RPM range.
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Racer111 wrote:
Any day. That’s what I’m getting.
mxb2 wrote:
I thought you had one? And like the rmz better.
Racer111 wrote:
I sold my 2019 WE. I am going to give the 2020WE a shot due to the Traction control.
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daveh 8/2/2019 7:26am
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Hopefully the TCS works better than Honda's first attempt:

https://pulpmx.com/2012/12/26/gps-classic-steel-39-1997-cr250/

"One of the interesting features that made their debut on the ’97 Honda CR250R was traction control (and you thought JGR was the first team to try and use traction control). The ignition was designed to monitor engine rpm every 35 milliseconds and if it detected a sudden spike, flatten out the ignition curve to compensate. While this system works great on cars with nearly 100% traction, it proved more problematic on the varied surfaces of a motocross course. In practice, the system was incapable of keeping up with the free revving motor and unpredictable surfaces. By the time it reacted, the hard-hitting CR was already laying down strips of rubber to the track. It was an excellent idea (much like the aluminum frame), in need of a little more refinement."
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Last Braaap 8/2/2019 10:31am
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Markee wrote:
To my understanding its just a less aggressive map in the lower to mid RPM range.
so nothing groundbreaking. Just fancy term?
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yz25 wrote:
Any news when the WRE model will be arriving?
H4L wrote:
Put a down payment on one about 3 weeks ago & was told by my Honda rep. it would be around Aug. 8th..
me too, but date was 25th August for me
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kiwifan wrote:
me too, but date was 25th August for me
Maybe my rep got his ship date mixed up with the delivery date. Kiwifan any insight you can provide over the standard R 18 model ? I tried to get a 19 WE, but they sold out quickly.
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Racer111 wrote:
I sold my 2019 WE. I am going to give the 2020WE a shot due to the Traction control.
Last Braaap wrote:
i'm stupid mofo but i can't imagine conventional traction control in works on mx bikes. I mean that the rear wheel at like 95% of cases...
i'm stupid mofo but i can't imagine conventional traction control in works on mx bikes.

I mean that the rear wheel at like 95% of cases rotates much faster than the bike moves forward due to the soft and erosive ground under the rear wheel. As i imagine conventional TC it is basically very precise "rear brake" affecting the engine quickly and directly. But maybe some of you fellers can educate me.

thx in advance.
Markee wrote:
To my understanding its just a less aggressive map in the lower to mid RPM range.
Yep
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PJRAUS 8/3/2019 3:07am
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Brad460 wrote:
Buy it...quit being a cheap fucker Tongue
Racer111 wrote:
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🤣🤣🤣 I like your form!
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reded wrote:
If Honda made a 350 I might convert, they look good but I’m not in good enough shape to manhandle a 450.
I thought the same when I got a CRF450 but as long as you ride tall gears and avoid riding it like a 250f you'll be just fine. When I slip into 250f mode though I get tired real quick.
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Brad460 wrote:
Buy it...quit being a cheap fucker Tongue
Racer111 wrote:
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PJRAUS wrote:
🤣🤣🤣 I like your form!
My form?
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Moto520 8/3/2019 8:25am
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Stop all this nonsense and buy the 2019 kawasaki. At least ride it first
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Racer111 8/3/2019 8:49am
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Moto520 wrote:
Stop all this nonsense and buy the 2019 kawasaki. At least ride it first
Hell no! I rode one. Not for me.
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H4L 8/3/2019 12:41pm
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Moto520 wrote:
Stop all this nonsense and buy the 2019 kawasaki. At least ride it first
Laughing I was contemplating the same thing till I rode one...
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Racer111 wrote:
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PJRAUS wrote:
🤣🤣🤣 I like your form!
Racer111 wrote:
My form?
Form = style..
San Buenaventura 8/4/2019 7:56pm
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Almost bought a kawi this year when I was in the market for a brand new 450. Went Honda. The bike (Honda) is just so explosive. Fits my body and style perfectly.

Most of the complaints I read are it being a handful or “tough to setup.” I’ve found neither to be true. Ymmv.
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