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Increase the purse by cutting the days that you use for move in? Golly gosh darn why didn't feld think of that? Um, because they are probably pushed for time at most venues as it is. Dirt logistics, including restrictions on when dirt can be moved all have to be considered.
There are so many variables and expenses that many don't even think about. Some here have included things as profit for feld that probably are not. For example, most venues control concessions and keep the revenue. Some venues even control souvenir sales, handling all of them for a percentage.
The truth is that none of us know how much feld makes on these events. Even if they opened the books it wouldn't be clear. Simple accounting tricks would skew the figures to make it look like they do better or worse, whichever is to their advantage. An example would be dirt expenses. How much should be charged to sx and how much to monster jam? Half? There is a big difference between dirt requirements and track builds for the different events. 60/40? 70/30? Monster jam entertainers are probably not asking the same questions we are, so which way do you think it would go.
Even when you think you find something that you think is revealing it doesn't mean it is reality. Some one quoted the figure of $700k/day for stadium rental. They might have found that on a website somewhere. Not accurate. Move in days are a
different discounted rate.
All this varies from market to market. Now consider that feld has considerable leverage to negotiate different agreements than a promoter doing individual events.
Sx is a business. A tough business. A small business in the big picture. Here is some simple math. Feld states they do over 30 million tickets sold for their brands in a year. Sx is maybe, maybe 1 million of those. Not even 4% of their business as far.as tickets sold.
TV revenue? A lot of speculation there as well. How did it go from feld having to pay to play to figures as high as $4 mil/year? Who knows how much they make? It does seem odd that sx went from pay to play to a revenue stream even though tv ratings don't seem all that impressive. How exactly would that be structured? Does feld still have to sell ads to get their money? Is NBC basically reimbursing feld for the expense of production? Did monster just tie it in as an ad purchase commitment? Who knows?
Now the old, tired, decades old UNION arguement. Yaaaawn...... it is never going to happen in sx. There is no solidairty between roczen/tomac/webb/anderson/barcia etc, and the guys that are not making the money that the top riders do. The top guys have never, NEVER, had the same issues as a struggling privateer that has had minimal support all through their career.
If so many riders stopped coming that they couldn't fill the gate do you know what feld would do? How about take out a section of the gate so there wouldn't be empty slots and put out a press release saying that they are cutting the number of riders to improve safety and racing by eliminating lapped riders. You would still watch, and it will still look great on tv.
These are the realities of supercross. It is a niche sport, and they pay what the market supports and will get riders to race.
You can complain that feld is greedy or whatever. Make some signs and picket at an event. If there was so much money then another entity would try to move in. Some of us have been around long enough to remember the time that happened, and the time before. Neither went well. I doubt somebody would try again "for the love of the sport". It is about money, and anybody that wants to take on feld is only going to do it for the potential income. Hell, it could be youthstream and they would end up racing for no purse at all.
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as far as i know the riders only get paid by the teams
for a win he got 250.000 dollar
for every point 50.000 dollar bonus
so a racewin is 250.000 for the win and 1,25 milj bonus ... so 1.5 milj dollar
you would think Hamilton , Vettel etc are paid even more ...
The situation is what it is. Unless you are a top rider the risk to reward just isn't there
I totally agree that it’d be great if racers earned more and maybe Feld does have room to do so, but without seeing full financials you guys have no idea what you’re talking about.
The situation is what it is. Unless you are a top rider the risk to reward just isn't there
Anyways the mfg/team are the ones who pay the big bucks. Still though riders are making well into 150k on top of everything else for being a podium guy all year just in purse money. Thats definitely fair.
Then when you take into account last place at every race is 32k thats reasonable.
Nothing. That's why the purses are relatively small and rarely change.
Maybe somebody can find what it was when they started?
Until the riders figure out that THEY have the power, nothing is going to change.... and its really kind of sad when you compare it to other sports. People are literally risking their lives and bodies for a sport that eats it young... and if you get seriously hurt?? You're screwed for the rest of your life..... Hell if a guy gets hurt working at friggin' walmart he gets workmans comp and disability if he cant work for the rest of his life.... Supercross/motocross you're racing for the dream that SOMEDAY you might become a champion... but until that happens, you're S.O.L. if you are injured.
Lots of things need to change in this sport.... and the first is that greedy promoters stop taking all the money.... and why the HELL are riders paying an entry fee???? Again, WITHOUT the riders you have a stadium full of dirt and nothing else.... Im sure the factory guys don't care one way or another for a union, because they are paid well..... but ALL it takes is the privateers to get together, because again, without them, you'd have about 10-15 riders... It really wouldn't take much to get discussions going.
Oh and a side note... My LOCAL organization (NESC) even has programs to help people with bills that are injured while racing.... and yet the pinnacle of the sport doesn't???
You must have ALL the factory riders join in for it to work and that won't happen because they don't want to risk what they have. Understandable.
This sport is so dangerous and there is enough money in it to pay the racers much better. Sad.
Sooooo if this was the argument that supercross promoters are greedy.. I don’t think it would hold up against Judge Judy if we are doing comparisons...
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