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brocsdad
1/23/2018 10:31am
1/23/2018 10:31am
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6/24/2019 5:08pm
I have always been a Honda fan but all the test riders have complained about the lack bottom end power. I hope they fix the motor issue for 2019 but I was wondering if anyone found some hidden horsepower in the new Honda.
To be fair that bottom end is so far down on the bottom if your a fast rider you may never even hit that weak spot. For me being slow i need just a bit more bottom and mid. Otherwise this is the best handling dirt bike ive ever ridden. Take with a grain of salt coming from a 30+ C rider.
If the test was blind, and and your average track with normal elevation change, would anyone really be at that big of a disadvantage?
I’ve seen PLENTY of people get on something, and proclaim it was fast or slow simply by the hit/power delivery. They get fooled by it. Not everything that is fast, feels fast. Ive also ridden stuff that feels slow, but was actually making a ton of usable power.
Matching power delivery to a rider’s comfort or style will make them a faster rider, regardless of the bikes HP figures.
The Shop
http://www.vortexcdi.com/model_product.php?product=56&model=254&mp_id=4…
Between the pipe and the vortex (hard to see on this chart but check out the site link) it seems pretty significant gain right in that area.
Find a fabricator and drop a 250 KTM motor in it. Sell the CRF motor and apply the money for recouping some of your loss. Next time think before you buy.
The new crf uses the same vortex as the ktm, suzuki, kawi, and 2017 crf450 so I picked up a used one for $300 and just got the 2018 crf250 base map installed on it. You dont have to spend big money to go fast!
Pit Row
BTW, it's an engine. Motor = electric
A motor is a machine that converts other forms of energy into mechanical energy and so imparts motion.
An engine is a motor that converts thermal energy to mechanical work.
An engine is a specific type of motor....
Take a seat bro.
I remember when this bike was just about to come out, some of the honda guys got quoted saying that with some good engine mods, this new engine would be capable of making HP that could put up numbers dam close to a 450!
Itll be interesting with the way this bike is a top end rev monster, how the Geico guyswill do on it in the Outdoors. Too bad JMart is going 450 outdoorsthis year, hed demolish everyone on a 250f with that much power on top
But then there's this:
To summarize, you can either equate an engine with a) any machine, or b) a thermal engine, or c) any machine that transforms kinetic energy to/from another form of energy. A motor is any machine that transforms another form of energy to linear or rotational kinetic energy.
Now I suggest you take a seat. At the back of the class.
If you look at racing on the highest level everyone is looking for more RPM. NHRA Prostock, Formula 1, Nascar, Ect.
Most of the time it's achieved by using a larger bore and shorter stroke.
Nothing wrong with the Honda 250. They may have slightly missed the mark out of the box but the architecture is there to make big power.
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