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kawasa84 7/21/2016 2:24pm
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51xc wrote:
there is a possibility that rch will have 3 or even 4 spots available if yosh suzuki will be 250 only for '17 beyond. that could...
there is a possibility that rch will have 3 or even 4 spots available if yosh suzuki will be 250 only for '17 beyond.
that could mean both stewart brothers and tickle (and weimer) under the rch tent. james probably in his last year anyways, maybe even sx only.
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The problem I have heard with RCH, is there is no major sponsor on board for next year. No sponsor, no team.
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They lost a couple of major sponsors, RAM trucks and Sycuan casinos, last year, who still haven't been replaced. Awkward to see a championship bike with...
They lost a couple of major sponsors, RAM trucks and Sycuan casinos, last year, who still haven't been replaced. Awkward to see a championship bike with a blank swingarm, not to mention the front fender arch where Sycuan formerly appeared.
Just Googled the net worth of Pink: $130 Million. Cary Hart: $20 Milion, and Ricky Carmichael: $25 Million.
I know, smart, and wealthy people don't part with their money, but if they wanted to keep RCH going while new sponsorship could be secured, they could fund the team for awhile.
This team and its success, should be able to find sponsors and not fold. Unless it's just not in their hearts to keep racing and be a crucial part of the sport.
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TXDirt 7/21/2016 2:29pm
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I find it hard to believe that any team that RC is a part of would pay a dime for the drama and hassle and effort Stewart brings currently. So I just don't see that at all happening. He's likely going to his own team because of all the burned bridges with the factory and semi-factory teams.

I think the RCH team will be gone after this season. Or, if it's still around, it will be a very different team with at least one or both of the RC/CH owners leaving. If Roczen finally wins them a championship it probably makes it that much easier for the team to pack up since they will have achieved a goal they were after, and their star rider with #1 plate is leaving team to go to Honda anyways.
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I find it hard to believe that any team that RC is a part of would pay a dime for the drama and hassle and effort...
I find it hard to believe that any team that RC is a part of would pay a dime for the drama and hassle and effort Stewart brings currently. So I just don't see that at all happening. He's likely going to his own team because of all the burned bridges with the factory and semi-factory teams.

I think the RCH team will be gone after this season. Or, if it's still around, it will be a very different team with at least one or both of the RC/CH owners leaving. If Roczen finally wins them a championship it probably makes it that much easier for the team to pack up since they will have achieved a goal they were after, and their star rider with #1 plate is leaving team to go to Honda anyways.
Ok...I realize from reading your posts on the other JS7 thread that you are a pure Stewart hater. I get that...but...

I don't see any drama attached to simply having James Stewart on your team. So, that's pretty much BS. What I DO see is a huge amount of attention, notoriety & excitement associated with having James Stewart attached to any team. Carey Hart is a showman. He is a master at garnering sponsors. Whether JS7 ever thrown a leg over a bike again...or does, but never hits another podium...any investment that RCH would put into him would be worth it in the "it" factor alone. James still draws more at an autograph line than anybody. Nobody can generate a 10-page thread here like Stewart. That is instant "press" for RCH or anybody. I think Carey would love to pick up James & Mookie just to say he had the nuts to do it.
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51xc 7/21/2016 3:29pm
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I really wonder what the hell is going on in camp RCH. I'm pretty sure that the main "journalists" in our sport knows what is going...
I really wonder what the hell is going on in camp RCH. I'm pretty sure that the main "journalists" in our sport knows what is going to happen but are choosing to not leak it out.

First Roczen leaves(not surprising) and then the deal with J-Mart falls apart(indicating that some major sponsors are pulling out and they can't afford him).
as far as I know the deal with jmart fell apart because rch had a deadline (set by jmart/ jmart's agent) to secure a bike manufacturer and they didn't manage to do so.

and about the thing that rc would never give james a spot in his team: suzuki > rc. they failed to sign a high profile guy and if james wants to stay on suzuki and suzuki wants to keep james, then he will end up under the rch tent if rch will become the official suzuki factory team. it's business for those guys.

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langhammx 7/21/2016 3:33pm
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MX Guy wrote:
Pretty sure James with Suzuki and Malcolm with Geico for 2017.
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davistld01 7/21/2016 3:35pm
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MX Guy wrote:
Pretty sure James with Suzuki and Malcolm with Geico for 2017.
langhammx wrote:
Wink
Wait...that can't be. It makes too much sense.
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etccb 7/21/2016 3:53pm
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So Malcolm might be doing sx only?
Ahhhh I hope not. Put in the needed work and give your fans see the show that they would love to see.

Pretty please with sugar on top??
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kiwifan 7/21/2016 3:55pm
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MX Guy wrote:
Pretty sure James with Suzuki and Malcolm with Geico for 2017.
langhammx wrote:
Wink
davistld01 wrote:
Wait...that can't be. It makes too much sense.
hehehehe
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mxjon454 wrote:
Pretty sure i read that millsaps is riding for bto ktm next year, not sure if it was sx only again or a full year though.
He is, and most likely both series.
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oshow 7/21/2016 4:33pm
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I just can't believe tha RCH will close up shop considering they will have a Championship winning bike and team vacant at the seasons end. Almost...
I just can't believe tha RCH will close up shop considering they will have a Championship winning bike and team vacant at the seasons end.
Almost unbelievable.
That's why Watson started the podcast.... Trying to make enough money to keep the team going....


I'm kidding !
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oshow 7/21/2016 5:02pm
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51xc wrote:
from this weeks twmx kickstart: 'Also, sounds like Dean Wilson will not be with Red Bull KTM or Butler Brothers (BTO) KTM in 2017 as originally...
from this weeks twmx kickstart:

'Also, sounds like Dean Wilson will not be with Red Bull KTM or Butler Brothers (BTO) KTM in 2017 as originally expected.'

http://motocross.transworld.net/photos/2016-spring-creek-mx-kickstart/#i4fHqhSG9e6hFYCE.97
Yeah Bagget got the ride...

Dean needs to land somewhere with great equipment, he will be ready come SX time.
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51xc 7/21/2016 5:19pm
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so I guess that means brayton will remain at bto together with milsaps who was signed already. sucks for deano but I 'd choose bb4 over him as well.
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MX Guy 7/21/2016 5:20pm
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Looks like it might be a battle for that Yamaha spot between Bogle and Wilson? Bogle really has been Yamaha's target for a couple years but you can't deny Wilson's talent. If Wilson starts logging higher finishes than Bogle he may as well deserve that spot, too. Both guys have had an injury or two. Not many chairs left in this year's musical chairs game...not enough chairs to begin with.
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I was almost excited to start reading this thread until I seen all the 'exclusive insiders' spouting BS on here.

So to follow the thread, I heard from a close friend in the industry that 450's will be banned and everyone has to race 500 2-strokes instead. Don't believe me? Just watch. And in 4 months from now when I'm wrong you won't remember who said it or care because it's all stupid shit posted on a forum and I will suffer no consequences.
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kiwifan 7/21/2016 5:52pm
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MX Guy wrote:
Looks like it might be a battle for that Yamaha spot between Bogle and Wilson? Bogle really has been Yamaha's target for a couple years but...
Looks like it might be a battle for that Yamaha spot between Bogle and Wilson? Bogle really has been Yamaha's target for a couple years but you can't deny Wilson's talent. If Wilson starts logging higher finishes than Bogle he may as well deserve that spot, too. Both guys have had an injury or two. Not many chairs left in this year's musical chairs game...not enough chairs to begin with.
Do you think Wilson has the inside running since he and Reed are pals?

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kiwifan 7/21/2016 5:52pm
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aeffertz wrote:
I was almost excited to start reading this thread until I seen all the 'exclusive insiders' spouting BS on here. So to follow the thread, I...
I was almost excited to start reading this thread until I seen all the 'exclusive insiders' spouting BS on here.

So to follow the thread, I heard from a close friend in the industry that 450's will be banned and everyone has to race 500 2-strokes instead. Don't believe me? Just watch. And in 4 months from now when I'm wrong you won't remember who said it or care because it's all stupid shit posted on a forum and I will suffer no consequences.
So you have better information about the rumors to know if they are right or wrong then? Please share...
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MX Guy 7/21/2016 6:06pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Do you think Wilson has the inside running since he and Reed are pals?
How much say does Chad really have with who Yamaha signs? Obviously his teammate is going to be someone he likes, and obviously him and Keith are good friends. Bogle has been injury prone like Wilson but still more consistent if you ask me. The most logical choice right now might be Bogle but Wilson has some serious speed when he's 100%, he did win a heat race or two in SX, no?
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kiwifan 7/21/2016 6:12pm
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MX Guy wrote:
How much say does Chad really have with who Yamaha signs? Obviously his teammate is going to be someone he likes, and obviously him and Keith...
How much say does Chad really have with who Yamaha signs? Obviously his teammate is going to be someone he likes, and obviously him and Keith are good friends. Bogle has been injury prone like Wilson but still more consistent if you ask me. The most logical choice right now might be Bogle but Wilson has some serious speed when he's 100%, he did win a heat race or two in SX, no?
Yup good points, I think I will give a slight edge to Wilson here...but either would be good for the team
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MX Guy 7/21/2016 6:34pm
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Anyone know what the deal is for MCR?
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oshow 7/21/2016 7:08pm
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51xc wrote:
so I guess that means brayton will remain at bto together with milsaps who was signed already. sucks for deano but I 'd choose bb4 over...
so I guess that means brayton will remain at bto together with milsaps who was signed already. sucks for deano but I 'd choose bb4 over him as well.
No, I do not believe they will have 3 riders, so Brayton won't be there.
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oshow 7/21/2016 7:11pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Do you think Wilson has the inside running since he and Reed are pals?
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How much say does Chad really have with who Yamaha signs? Obviously his teammate is going to be someone he likes, and obviously him and Keith...
How much say does Chad really have with who Yamaha signs? Obviously his teammate is going to be someone he likes, and obviously him and Keith are good friends. Bogle has been injury prone like Wilson but still more consistent if you ask me. The most logical choice right now might be Bogle but Wilson has some serious speed when he's 100%, he did win a heat race or two in SX, no?
A 3rd rider at Factory Yamaha isn't guaranteed. And if there is one they won't make big $$
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oshow wrote:
Yeah Bagget got the ride...

Dean needs to land somewhere with great equipment, he will be ready come SX time.
If this is true............then this is proof that karma is a bitch.
Back in 2010 when Bagget and Dean moved up to the pro's, they both tried out for the last PC spot and Dean got it over BB4. Blake ended up going to Rockstar Suzuki.
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Zycki11 7/22/2016 8:00am
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oshow wrote:
Yeah Bagget got the ride...

Dean needs to land somewhere with great equipment, he will be ready come SX time.
MT MX wrote:
If this is true............then this is proof that karma is a bitch. Back in 2010 when Bagget and Dean moved up to the pro's, they both...
If this is true............then this is proof that karma is a bitch.
Back in 2010 when Bagget and Dean moved up to the pro's, they both tried out for the last PC spot and Dean got it over BB4. Blake ended up going to Rockstar Suzuki.
Explain the "karma" it isn't like dean and BB gun kept cleaning one another out
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RG1 7/22/2016 8:01am
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oshow wrote:
Yeah Bagget got the ride...

Dean needs to land somewhere with great equipment, he will be ready come SX time.
MT MX wrote:
If this is true............then this is proof that karma is a bitch. Back in 2010 when Bagget and Dean moved up to the pro's, they both...
If this is true............then this is proof that karma is a bitch.
Back in 2010 when Bagget and Dean moved up to the pro's, they both tried out for the last PC spot and Dean got it over BB4. Blake ended up going to Rockstar Suzuki.
How on earth is it proof that karma is a bitch? What exactly did Dean do wrong? He earned the ride, and he did very well when he got it. What's the problem?
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Wrong Thread....

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