2016 KTM 250sxf break in?

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Edited Date/Time 12/8/2015 9:41am
Just took my new KTM 250sxf to the track today for its first ride. I followed a break in procedure of letting the bike idle for about 30 min then cool all the way down till I could touch the cases before starting the same prosecure once more. I then did two 50% laps on the tracks and came back in once again, to let the bike cool back down. Now my reason for this post is that I am experiencing extreme bogging and just a lack of throttle response. Nothing I have experienced on the newer FI bikes. I am an experienced intermediate class rider (if that helps?) and can kinda tell when something just might not be right. After the initial two laps I went out for another couple laps at about 75% and came back in. Bike is still bogging on me and somewhat studdering when the throttle is quickly hit. Any idea if the break in procedure has caused this or if anyone else has experienced this?
Edit: idle time was the time it took me to gear up, not 30 min sorry for the confusion
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EcoSX478 12/5/2015 4:34pm
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What fuel you running? Any aftermarket parts on it?
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Wes_Brooks 12/5/2015 4:37pm
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Bone stock. Had the highest pump gas at the time of the ride ( has since been drained) and now filled with my regular fuel of VP.
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zehn 12/5/2015 4:44pm
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lol oh man
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smoothies862 12/5/2015 4:54pm
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idle for 30 minutes? twice?new to me.

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NeedMoto 12/5/2015 7:01pm
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smoothies862 wrote:
idle for 30 minutes? twice?new to me.
That^^^

My bike would likely over heat, if left idling for 30 minutes.

Hopefully someone has some idea's for you.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 12/5/2015 9:03pm
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If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged. Maybe the tank had some debris from the factory?
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moto455va 12/5/2015 9:20pm
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smoothies862 wrote:
idle for 30 minutes? twice?new to me.
NeedMoto wrote:
That^^^

My bike would likely over heat, if left idling for 30 minutes.

Hopefully someone has some idea's for you.
yea idling for 30 minutes seems wrong
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Wes_Brooks 12/5/2015 9:39pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged...
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged. Maybe the tank had some debris from the factory?
I suspected that. Comes with a few replacements new and was recommended to be changed after first ride, I will be doing that when I change all the stock fluids before my next ride. Just really frustrating being the first ride. Next step may be taking it straight back to the dealer
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CarlinoJoeVideo 12/5/2015 11:15pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged...
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged. Maybe the tank had some debris from the factory?
Wes_Brooks wrote:
I suspected that. Comes with a few replacements new and was recommended to be changed after first ride, I will be doing that when I change...
I suspected that. Comes with a few replacements new and was recommended to be changed after first ride, I will be doing that when I change all the stock fluids before my next ride. Just really frustrating being the first ride. Next step may be taking it straight back to the dealer
Don't stress, it's gotta be something simple like that. Maybe try some nice fuel like 93 or VP T4. It's not nessicary but maybe you just got some bad pump fuel...
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22Ryann 12/6/2015 1:48am
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged...
If you disconnect the fuel line quick release, there's a tiny grey cone filter. Maybe replace that, I've had bogging issues from that being slightly clogged. Maybe the tank had some debris from the factory?
Wes_Brooks wrote:
I suspected that. Comes with a few replacements new and was recommended to be changed after first ride, I will be doing that when I change...
I suspected that. Comes with a few replacements new and was recommended to be changed after first ride, I will be doing that when I change all the stock fluids before my next ride. Just really frustrating being the first ride. Next step may be taking it straight back to the dealer
When i first replaced mine, there was noticable grit. Also noticable grit on sump magnet on first oil change.

Check the choke handle screw isn't stuck in or has issues
Underground 12/6/2015 2:23am
12/6/2015 2:23am
Take it back to your KTM dealer. If they don't know what it is before even starting to look at it, find another who does. It's a simple fix.
Underground 12/6/2015 2:31am
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And forget all that bullshit run in procedure you went with. Start it up and let it idle for a 3 minutes so the computer can acclimatize to your local. And just go out and do an easy moto without revving the freckle off the thing or lugging it in too high of a gear. Let it cool and do another if your still worried but you'll be good to go. Every bike that is build hits the dyno at the factory to make sure it hits the right numbers so don't be scarred to rev it. I've seen bikes get ridden like they stole em from the get go and never have a problem. I'm not saying that's good or I do it like that, but bikes these days are so well built, you don't have to baby them.
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tobz 12/6/2015 2:58am
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Idled for 30 minutes though? Twice? Surely 20 minutes in you'd think "This ain't right"
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fast willy 12/6/2015 3:03am
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You fried the engine if you let it sit there and idle for a half hour. Why would you let it just sit there for 30 min and idle. No air is flowing across the radiator which means it's going to overheat. If you weren't riding it, I'm afraid you ruined your new engine,
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wreckitrandy 12/6/2015 3:31am
12/6/2015 3:31am
I've heard a lot of break in theories. Where did you get the idea of that procedure?
wideopen198 12/6/2015 3:42am
12/6/2015 3:42am
It's a ktm. Enough said.

Why would you idle for so long? A four stroke will get smoking hot when you do that.
Reefer Sutherland 12/6/2015 5:28am
12/6/2015 5:28am
It's bogging because you filled the motor up with water when you blew the head gasket.

Also, running fresh motors half-assed like that is an excellent way to glaze the rings.
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pete24 12/6/2015 6:17am
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are you turning the choke off, its backwards on 16 ktms
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jtiger12 12/6/2015 6:31am
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Good lord, where did you get that break in? No way that was in the KTM manual.
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davis224 12/6/2015 6:34am
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I was honestly going to come in and make a joke about letting it idle, but... damn.
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philG 12/6/2015 6:36am
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Sounds like you cooked it.. where did you dig that procedure up from??

Warm it up , ride it for 10 minutes without revving it hard, or lugging in the gears, come in and nut and bolt check it, and you are done.

If you are brave , you warm it up and just give it some straight from the off, to get a better ring seal .

Im hoping its the choke thing, just for your wallet's sake.
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mattyhamz2 12/6/2015 7:20am
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Underground wrote:
And forget all that bullshit run in procedure you went with. Start it up and let it idle for a 3 minutes so the computer can...
And forget all that bullshit run in procedure you went with. Start it up and let it idle for a 3 minutes so the computer can acclimatize to your local. And just go out and do an easy moto without revving the freckle off the thing or lugging it in too high of a gear. Let it cool and do another if your still worried but you'll be good to go. Every bike that is build hits the dyno at the factory to make sure it hits the right numbers so don't be scarred to rev it. I've seen bikes get ridden like they stole em from the get go and never have a problem. I'm not saying that's good or I do it like that, but bikes these days are so well built, you don't have to baby them.
Haha it's like my dad always told me with new bikes, "if I don't hold together now, it won't hold together later"
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Robgvx 12/6/2015 8:16am
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I idled my new 450 while I was getting my gear on and it was blowing steam.
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Excaliburbmx 12/6/2015 8:27am
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New bikes shouldn't be that volitale. I'm sure you didn't cook it or it wouldn't have restarted so well the second time.
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PTECH 12/6/2015 8:43am
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30 minutes at idle on a bike with no radiator fans? Ugh oh. You might want to go back to who ever gave you that break in idea and kick them in the nuts.
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Robgvx 12/6/2015 8:45am
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PTECH wrote:
30 minutes at idle on a bike with no radiator fans? Ugh oh. You might want to go back to who ever gave you that break...
30 minutes at idle on a bike with no radiator fans? Ugh oh. You might want to go back to who ever gave you that break in idea and kick them in the nuts.
Or read the owners manual....
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davis224 12/6/2015 10:45am
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I'm a little skeptical it caused the issue, but idling that hard is really hard on an engine, especially on break in. Your cams may have not been getting enough oil without enough RPMs to circulate the oil to the top end fast enough
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slipdog 12/6/2015 11:07am
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You just need some Cone Valves and everything will be fine!

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