2016 Husqvarna TC125 Gear Oil

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2/6/2016 2:50 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2016 4:17 PM

Got the son a new 2016 Husqvarna TC125 last night and will be heading out to break her in tomorrow. The manual says engine oil 10w40 but is this correct for a 125 2-Stroke? We called the dealer and the said 10w50 "but don't hold me to this", we have always used 75w or 80w for the gear oil in the past but on this bike should we actually be switching to the 10w40?

I do not want to burn up the clutch or internals so I am wary of trying something that different. Who here is sporting the 2016 Huskies and what oils are you running?

We are sticking with the Bel-Ray HR-1 premix as it has been great for years.

Thanks in advance...

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2/6/2016 2:59 PM

Rotella...

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2/6/2016 3:04 PM

Or ATF

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2/6/2016 3:36 PM

Rotella is not like it used to be, the reason everyone used it was because diesel oil didnt have all the zinc taken out. At the same time as the "ultra low sulfur" fuels were mandated for diesels, they took all the zinc out of Rotella and every other diesel oil. Using Rotella now is no better than car oil.

As to your 125, that oil you used to use that was labeled 75w or 80w was not heavy like rear end grease, it was really 10w30 or 10w40 all along. 10w40 is fine, but I prefer ATF type F, the clutch works better.

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2/6/2016 3:49 PM

not going to start an oil thread battle... many use it. I agree KW, ATF F...

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2/6/2016 3:53 PM

Been using basic pennzoil, castrol, or whatever 10w40 in my two strokes since I started ride and never had problems. Just change it regularly and you'll be fine.

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2/6/2016 3:57 PM

On our TM Racing 125 bike, we could use 80w but also 10w40. It was pure rider preference. Our rider had sometimes the idea that the 10w40 gave 'false neutrals' so we're using the 80w from VROOAM. It sucks that you guys can buy this qualitative oil brand in America.

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2/6/2016 4:00 PM

There is no battle, I used Rotella myself until the zinc was taken out. It is a fact that zinc was removed from all diesel oils in 2007 with the CJ-4 rating and the zinc is what made it better than car oils.

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2/6/2016 4:07 PM

sorry KW, wasn't necessarily directed at you, oil threads you know? I used Delo quite a bit back then too...many cheaper, viable options that don't sacrifice performance, etc. If it comforts someone to use expensive stuff, then more power to them.

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2/6/2016 4:21 PM

Nom DeGuerre wrote:

not going to start an oil thread battle... many use it. I agree KW, ATF F...

Thanks for the feedback, researching it looks like a ton of folks are using ATF-F or Rotella-T. Would these oils need to be changed with every ride and in your opinion what is the difference in shifting?

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2/6/2016 4:31 PM

No prob, happy to help. I like the shifting and grab of the clutch with ATF F, Dexron is decent too. Rotella works fine or other similar oils. All of these work well, cheap to change sooner than leaving in the expensive longer to justify the cost. 2-4 hours is about right, some may go longer. I always dumped it closer to 2 on a small bore.

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2/6/2016 4:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2016 4:47 PM

Hello,

No need to switch to a 10w40. You can continue to use your 75w and 80w, assuming you are using a product like Bel Ray or Maxima. The manual is correct but straight weights in two stroke transmissions are preferred.
Enjoy that 125!!!

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2/11/2016 12:59 PM

If you are concerned about it, you can always contact the manufacturer of your oil brand of choice and ask. They'll tell you their best product for the bike.

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2/11/2016 1:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/11/2016 1:40 PM

Bel-Ray in everything, the single weight is fine in a 2 stroke rather than the multi viscosity. Run what you believe in, but so you know husky comes from the factory with BelRay in it (motor, suspension, coolant, ect). Change the break in oil out after the first ride and then every 6-8 hours depending on abuse! Check your premix ratio though, the 16 125s are calling for a bit more oil then they used to.

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2/11/2016 3:57 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/11/2016 3:58 PM

Quicknic, your original question was about viscosities in the transmission. The quick answer is that automotive oils are graded on a different scale than transmission oils. You can substitute a 10W-40 motorcycle oil for an 80W transmission oil. (Or a 10W-30 for 75W.) They are equivalent in actual viscosity.
Remember, the "W" stands for "winter" in multi-weight oils, and it really means "cold." A 10W-40 acts like a 10 weight oil when cold, then once the engine warms up to operating temperature the oil will behave like a 40W. Unless you are riding in a very cold environment, the "W" number almost doesn't matter - use the second one as a reference for what the oil really does while operating.
I second 212's opinion about Bel-Ray. That Gear Saver is awesome stuff.

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Braaapin' aint easy.

2/11/2016 5:38 PM

http://www.belray.com/lubricant_advisor

You could use the 75w or 80w Gear Saver with excellent results. It's what I ship to guys like Graham Jarvis and Mike Brown for their bikes.

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2/12/2016 5:05 AM

So Husky tells you to use 10W40 but you don't trust them? Vital members know more then Husky engineers?

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2/12/2016 7:04 AM

lukaitis9 wrote:

http://www.belray.com/lubricant_advisor

You could use the 75w or 80w Gear Saver with excellent results. It's what I ship to ...more

Thanks again for all of the feedback guy's and I like the Bel Ray lubricant advisor tool, pretty slick!

We are sticking with the trusty Bel Ray 80w Gear Saver oil as we have been running it for years with success. The son is digging the new Husky 1 two 5 and it has been sweet to see him have the bike cleaned, tranny oil changed, filter cleaned and all the whole bike gone through before I even get home from work after his first ride.

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2/12/2016 9:19 AM

It sounds like you have a good kid on your hands. Now have him do all that to your bike! :-)

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Braaapin' aint easy.

2/12/2016 9:23 AM

I second the atf-type f or bel-ray gearsaver. I think the bel-ray is a mix of regular oil and atf, by the way.

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2/12/2016 9:42 AM

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I've had good luck with this stuff in my YZ125, I was a staunch rotella user but noticed a difference a couple of years ago, I don't think you can go wrong with Bel-Ray either good stuff
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2/12/2016 9:57 AM

that's what we run in my 250sx

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2/12/2016 9:58 AM

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