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Only $10 for all 2024 SX, MX, and SMX series (regularly $30).
But is it worth the MSRP? No. Ktm is updating their two-strokes, and even advertising it as an alternative to a four-stroke. If you're serious about getting a brand new two-stroke MX machine (not to mention the awesome XC models KTM has), Orange is the way to go. I'd much rather throw my wallet at a bike that is getting actual R&D, as opposed to a long over due style update. I don't hate it by any means, but I do wish they would have thrown a few tricks at it, even leftover parts from the '10-'13 YZ-F turds.
I got my 12 125 for $5200 OTD
and a 13 250 for 5700 OTD
and a 14 250F for $5800 OTD (by the way I have had this bike for 2 months and it has 1.7 hours on it, son rides the 250 smoke instead and I have to force him to ride the F. He is 13 yrs old, 5'6", 140 lbs and rides the wheels of this thing)
Take a YZ125 and send it to JMS performance to make it a 144. The bike and motor work is still cheaper than a KTM150 but the YZ144 from JMS is about 2 less horsepower less than a stock 250 2 stroke.
http://jmsperformance.com/
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There are so many updated parts from the yzf's that will bolt straight on.
IE: swing arm, rear hub, brakes, suspension, triple clamps......
Someone I know will be surprised. Great news ! Always cool to see some smokers still alive.
That is not a big change indeed, but that means yamis smokers will still be available for a least a few years.
Suspension - no way not even close, yamahas ass suspension is FAR SUPERIOR to ktm's wp suspension ans there isnt one person on here that would disagree with that statement
Motor - yes ktm has yamaha beat in this department, no arguing that BUT we havent heard if yamaha made any engine improvements l, if not then ktm is the winner here on the dyno BUT mt 05 rm250 is far more explosive and makes more power faster
Ergonomics - this is a 50/50 debate as I personally do not care for ktm's ergonomics the body of the ktm's feels hard and rigid in the plastic dept thats just my opinion but I feel tue yamaha has a more comfortable feel to it compared to the 4 or 5 new ktm's ive ridden as I didnt care foe their feel.
Handling - again its a personal preference as I think both have their strong and weak points
We will Know for sure friday but the yz is a LOT better than you think and I applaud yamaha for updating their 2 strokes rather than killing them off and I wish ALL the other mfg's would follow suit.
Personally I really prefer riding 2 strokes over thumpersregardless if any pros are racing them
They took the ugliest part of the godawful looking 4-strokes and dumped it on the smokers. So the bikes are now not only older than dinosaurs, they also look like an aircooled Chinese Zingchang 110cc.
At least Yamaha has enough sense to keep the two strokes around and make some money off of the few units they DO build vs. scrapping the program altogether. As stated above, with the redesign we can at least be assured that one of the best MX bikes ever designed will be around for a few more years.
I like it!
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Had both bikes off the floor brand new, all three riders, one novice, two expert said the YZ125 was faster. But ride what you want. But then again, who actually races MX in a straight line with no bumps.
I’m sure with porting, carb mods, pipe, ceramic bearings and race fuel it’s possible but It’s probably a top-end oriented style of power to make those numbers.
A few of the local kids use his motors and I’ve heard good and bad?
I’ve used PC, Varner, but I’ve had the best luck with Barr’s Competition.
A couple of local kids use their motors and my friends kid who is a national level rider rode a Supermini RM and built by JMS. He did (2) laps and gave the bike RM back and said his Stock KTM 85 was faster. The bike seemed to have a very narrow powerband.
He also rode a KX supermini and he did say it was fast but he couldn’t adapt that well since it was the older style (13) KX. The same rider now has a 2014 KX Supermini built by JMS and the kid who tested the bike is getting ready to have a supermini built by Barr’s. Now he can ride the bikes back to back and compare the (2).
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