2014 honda rumor

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Edited Date/Time 3/2/2013 4:48am
fuel injected CR 250 in europe for 2013 and hittin the states in 2014 , heard it from a solid source (i think)
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kiwifan 10/1/2011 5:38pm
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tomcat wrote:
fuel injected CR 250 in europe for 2013 and hittin the states in 2014 , heard it from a solid source (i think)
wouldnt surprise me in the least...bet you it will be electric start too
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Racer111 10/1/2011 5:39pm
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Wouldn't surprise me. I think the economy and 4 stroke costs are finally hitting home with the Big 4! Or hitting Japan that is.
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doubt it. about as likely as them hiring mike larocco to race it.
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Would be cool but we shall see.

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steve_97060 10/1/2011 6:02pm
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probably a true rumor, because it would make much more sense to keep something like that a secret as opposed to letting everyone know about and build excitement and anticipation of it...
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TX24 10/1/2011 6:40pm
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and it will cost about $800 less then a 450.
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stangkag 10/1/2011 7:43pm
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Read today the ktm 250sx is $2,000 cheaper than there 450sxf...hope bonds has similiar savings. I've been on four strokes since 2005... got to admit im ready to make a big ol 5 gal tank of premix and ride till its ALL gone Wink
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DownSouth 10/1/2011 7:53pm
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What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?
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jasonv43 10/1/2011 8:04pm
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DownSouth wrote:
What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?
Yeah but Braaap sounds so much better then Blaaaaah.
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DownSouth wrote:
What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?
if you think that a freshly developed two stroke will weigh 235lbs regardless of EFI, i want a big bag of whatever you are on.

i'll bet it weighs 210 tops. the 150sx KTM weighs 199lbs if im not mistaken.
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I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.
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JB 19 10/1/2011 9:08pm
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I'll believe it when I see it.......but if it did happen look for a rule change.......because Honda usually writes the rules in motorcycle racing.
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MOTODAD422 10/1/2011 9:23pm
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And i bet it will have those exotic dinklehopher pneumatic handlebar bearings.
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Brent 10/1/2011 9:59pm
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Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
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500guy wrote:
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get...
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.
legal for closed course competition only
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ford832 10/2/2011 5:22am
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Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.
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smeg 10/2/2011 5:37am
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500guy wrote:
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get...
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.
A fuel infected two stroke will have LOWER emissions than a four stroke.

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motogrady 10/2/2011 5:46am
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who knows, now that the old guy is dead honda might see the light.


If ktm really starts to kick their ass with 2s sales, or the cheater rule is rescinded, game over.
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ODB 10/2/2011 5:47am
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500guy wrote:
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get...
I doubt this happens, I don't think they can even sell them in California ( CARB ) and that is where the majority of them get shipped.
fuely two smokes have lower emissions than a 4 stroke ....moot point here
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ODB 10/2/2011 5:48am
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Brent wrote:
Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
yeah this was before .............there on the brink of motorcycle bankruptcy ....its simple if you don't produce something the public wants you don't sell
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JLong 10/2/2011 6:19am
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DownSouth wrote:
What will everyone say when this magical efi 2 stroke weighs 235 lbs due to the battery and electronics and has a price tag of $8400?
^^^^^ but a smoker would "save racing" and "possibly the world".
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ford832 wrote:
Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how...
Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.
Didn't they do it when they introduced the Elsinore ?

Long time ago, though (but Soïchiro was still alive and well, then)...
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ATKpilot99 10/2/2011 6:57am
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I think we'll eventually se a FI or DI 2 stroke dirt bike but I wouldn't expect Honda to lead the charge. More likely KTM or KTM using Husaberg as a test bed imo.
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Brent wrote:
Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
Yea... how do they go from "we're pulling out of racing if you allow 2 strokes" to "Lets make 2 strokes!"?

If they do end up making one I won't buy it based on that fact alone. A bunch of hypocrites.
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Lightning78 10/2/2011 9:09am
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Premixed wrote:
doubt it. about as likely as them hiring mike larocco to race it.
Heard the same thing about the blue boys too ...... Just you wait ......
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Robgvx 10/2/2011 9:39am
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I'm hearing rumours, from more than one place, of Honda having something special in GPs next year.
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Tater 10/2/2011 9:59am
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Brent wrote:
Honda has stated that it will not produce any more two-stroke engines for any vehicle, period.
That's what makes me think it's a slim chance but maybe they could justify it if they would use some of the super efficient/clean technology they swept under the rug when they dropped all their two-stroke development.
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WORCSRacer 10/2/2011 11:08am
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Its already being tested... Part of the reason the RC valved motors had "issues" was they were designed with traction control and with FI in the future. Problem was the CPU needed to complete the project just hadn't been perfected and wasn't cost effective. Then...

How quickly people forget it was Honda that was leading the charge to clean two stroke technology back in the nineties. Vision and directions change as technology develops. Honda as a company has always believed that. They aren't too proud to admit they were wrong.
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cmx152 10/2/2011 2:22pm
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ford832 wrote:
Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how...
Never happen.Honda calls themselves a fourstroke company for every product they make.To do an about face would be like admitting you were wrong-and you know how often Honda does that.
They also said they wouldn't go back to single pipe on the 250f but they sneakily managed to switch back

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