2012 RMZ450 Value

Subotai
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11/19/2018 12:42pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2018 9:16pm
Thinking of selling my semi-built 2012 rmz450. What can be expected for a sales price. I know this has been debated by several on here before and wanted thoughts. I'm hoping to get $3500. And for all the stand up comics out there...I know, "tree fiddy" is what it will sell for. A few details about the bike.

-Race engine built for the MEC has decked head, ported and polished intake, high compression JE piston, titanium valves with copper valve seats.
-Balanced and polished crankshaft with carillo rod from Mike Alessi's race bike.
-Treated and polished transmission from Davi Millsaps 2013 race bike.
-Race spec FMF titanium exhaust from Davi Millsaps 2013 race bike.
-Full Hinson Clutch
-Magura Hydraulic Clutch - very easy and consistent feel.
-Braking oversize 280mm front rotor.
-Steel braided front brake line.
-Carbon fiber front rotor guard.
-Mototassinari air-boot for extra air flow and power.
-Oversize radiators
-Radiator Braces
-Boyesen supercooler high flow water pump
-CV4 silicone radiator hoses
-Oversize fuel tank. (stock tank comes with the bike)
-Tusk Impact wheels.
-Twin air powerflow air cage



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mattyhamz2
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11/19/2018 12:49pm
I sold my clean 38hr 14 YZ450 for $3800. It was super clean! For a 2012 rmz450, I wouldn'y pay over $3000 if it was super clean and low hour. Honestly, for me(just my opinion), I wouldn't spend more than $2500.
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fourfourone
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11/19/2018 1:10pm
northeast you would pull 2500-3000, closer to the 2500 mark
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11/19/2018 1:38pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2018 1:40pm
I don't know about NV, but down here in NM, you can't hardly give an RMZ away. Not trying to be an asshole, but the ones that go on craigslist for anything over $3000 usually stay there for months. One of our local dealerships is selling 18s for $6900 right now, and that's probably high when compared to other dealerships across the southwest.

You might as well keep it, especially considering all the stuff you have on it. I think I remember Keefer specifically mentioning that year of RMZ as a great bike in his "What Used Bike to Buy" type podcast he did a while back. Looks like a nice bike.
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11/19/2018 4:16pm
Keep it. It really sucks and I absolutely hate it but no matter how much money you have into a bike book value is book value and most people only care about that.

Just went through the same thing with my Rmz. I had about 3 times the money just in mods for what I sold it for. But the wife and I are in the process of adoption and that ain’t cheap.
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11/19/2018 4:32pm
Sounds like you went shopping with Todd ? Cool

It’s already been said, but RMZ bikes and parts are hard to sell. Makes no sense, they are GREAT bikes, but I think people read too many shootouts and the Suzuki has been last for years... good luck with the sale, it’s worth $3500 all day long to the right buyer.
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11/19/2018 4:40pm
Idaho747 wrote:
Keep it. It really sucks and I absolutely hate it but no matter how much money you have into a bike book value is book value...
Keep it. It really sucks and I absolutely hate it but no matter how much money you have into a bike book value is book value and most people only care about that.

Just went through the same thing with my Rmz. I had about 3 times the money just in mods for what I sold it for. But the wife and I are in the process of adoption and that ain’t cheap.
Kudos for adopting!

It just hurts that it is a 7 year old bike and a Suzuki.

It looks like a great value at $3500, but may sell for $2500 to $3000.

I sold a 2011 YZ450F for $2,500 in Phoenix. It had a C4MX rebuild (high compression pistion/port and polish/new clutch) and Enzo suspension and such. There was a feeding frenzy at that price, and the first guy who showed up took it away. I shed a tear, but had to make my mortgage payment, so off she went.

That bike had so much grunt that I could upshift to 4th, go to the inside of a corner, then go through the whoops at ACP and rip up the next straightaway.

I'm currently listing a 2016 YZ250 for $4,000. No takers yet, but it is winter here.

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11/19/2018 4:48pm
One might also mention that there is some economic anarchy in play with dealers offering new RMZ450s at such low pricing.

This is great for people on a tight budget who want a new 450, but bad for resale on used ones.

I've sworn off four-strokes, but would be tempted to get a new RMZ450 at such a price point, especially if I want to try to go back to Loretta's in +40 in the future. I think they have a nice feel and could be a good "old man's" bike.






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11/19/2018 4:55pm
Bry145 wrote:
One might also mention that there is some economic anarchy in play with dealers offering new RMZ450s at such low pricing. This is great for people...
One might also mention that there is some economic anarchy in play with dealers offering new RMZ450s at such low pricing.

This is great for people on a tight budget who want a new 450, but bad for resale on used ones.

I've sworn off four-strokes, but would be tempted to get a new RMZ450 at such a price point, especially if I want to try to go back to Loretta's in +40 in the future. I think they have a nice feel and could be a good "old man's" bike.






Agreed. If I were to go pick up a new 450 it would be down to the Suzuki and Yamaha.
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11/19/2018 7:27pm
Keeping it may be the best option at this point as many have stated, however, garage is getting full of other bikes and I need to make room. See what trusty CL can scrape up.
11/20/2018 12:14am
I envy you guys in the states. That bike would go for no less then 4-4500 in Ontario. People are selling 03 crf450s for 3500cad.
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11/20/2018 12:21am
Is there any chance that you have some of the stock parts? If that is the case, i would sell some of the trick parts and try to make the bike as stock as possible.
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11/20/2018 1:40am
Not much! I waited for months and got thousands less than I expected for a barely used mint 2017 YZ250F. The ridiculously low prices on prior year Japanese bikes (see earlier thread about blow out prices on new 250Fs) and interest rate offers is killing the resale market. Keep it if you like it or be prepared to cry in your beer after the sale.
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11/20/2018 2:14am
I envy you guys in the states. That bike would go for no less then 4-4500 in Ontario. People are selling 03 crf450s for 3500cad.
Doesn't Canada have more natural resources, less people mooching off the taxpayers, and less debt?

Why envy us?





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11/20/2018 7:12am
That is a really well set-up RMZ. If I were in the market for one, I'd be working a deal with you.
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11/20/2018 7:16am
I would be right around tree fiddy, but that's just me...
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11/20/2018 7:46am
Really don't want to rain on the parade here but like CSAR said, I couldn't hardly give mine away in prime condition. I was offered more for my 2001 CR250 with a destroyed bottom end. Real kick in the knackers.

In hindsight, it would of been cheaper to keep my RMZ. It's a buyers market
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Really don't want to rain on the parade here but like CSAR said, I couldn't hardly give mine away in prime condition. I was offered more...
Really don't want to rain on the parade here but like CSAR said, I couldn't hardly give mine away in prime condition. I was offered more for my 2001 CR250 with a destroyed bottom end. Real kick in the knackers.

In hindsight, it would of been cheaper to keep my RMZ. It's a buyers market
"If pussy is a stock, its value is plummeting."
-Dave Chappelle


It appears the same is true for used RMZs.

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11/22/2018 7:47pm
You would have more luck parting it out or just keeping it. I had a bone stock 10’ 450 with low hours that I struggled to get $2500 for, and currently have a 14’ 450 full ohlins kit and loads of other goodies that I know would net the same interest. (Thanks to Todd and langhammx for all the goodies lol)

I know that I will never see any return on my bike and don’t have the time to ride like I used to anymore to justify a loss and spending new bike money again. I like the bike a lot and will keep it until i feel it’s worth the $2500 it will fetch and probably find and buy another low hour unit because they will still be dirt cheap.

The leftover 17’s were fetching $5500 out the door at dealers and 18’s right around $6200 and when you take into consideration the god awful forks from 13-17 people just don’t want anything to do with them.

I used to buy up 06-09 Honda 250fs with the notorious valve and crank issues and would sell every single one for $2500+ bone stock with new engine internals. They still fetch around that in my area now, which blows my mind but just goes to show how the shootouts and dealer prices have affected the RMZ line.
11/22/2018 8:04pm
I have the same model and year. With all that stuff you have done to it, you will hardly find a better stock 2018 or 19. It’s a lot of hype. Keep it!!!

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11/22/2018 8:25pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2018 8:27pm
In so cal I only got 3600 for my clean 60 hour 2015 rmz 450. Was asking 4000 and everyone calling on it was offering me 3000. I ended up getting 3600 from some one I knew. If it weren’t for him I probably would have had to have sold it for 3000. And this was a year and a half ago. ?
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11/22/2018 8:32pm
mxer807 wrote:
In so cal I only got 3600 for my clean 60 hour 2015 rmz 450. Was asking 4000 and everyone calling on it was offering me...
In so cal I only got 3600 for my clean 60 hour 2015 rmz 450. Was asking 4000 and everyone calling on it was offering me 3000. I ended up getting 3600 from some one I knew. If it weren’t for him I probably would have had to have sold it for 3000. And this was a year and a half ago. ?
only $3600 for a 60hr bike lol you made out like a bandit!!
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11/22/2018 8:35pm
mxer807 wrote:
In so cal I only got 3600 for my clean 60 hour 2015 rmz 450. Was asking 4000 and everyone calling on it was offering me...
In so cal I only got 3600 for my clean 60 hour 2015 rmz 450. Was asking 4000 and everyone calling on it was offering me 3000. I ended up getting 3600 from some one I knew. If it weren’t for him I probably would have had to have sold it for 3000. And this was a year and a half ago. ?
zuk338 wrote:
only $3600 for a 60hr bike lol you made out like a bandit!!
Thing was mint and looked like it had 20 hours. Other sellers for same year in so cal area all we’re asking 4500-5500.
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11/22/2018 9:16pm
mxer807 wrote:
Thing was mint and looked like it had 20 hours. Other sellers for same year in so cal area all we’re asking 4500-5500.
Wow. I have half the hours on my bike and wouldn’t get a single offer on it if listed near $4000. Well besides payments, trades for junk, trades for 1996 rm250s etc. Just the way the market goes in different areas I guess.

I’m 15 minutes from the CA/US border and guys from CA used to pay top dollar for a bike from the states and still get them cheaper than they could up there, if you drove the bike across that is. That dried up when the Canadian dollar took a dive though and I haven’t heard anything like that going on in the past 2-3 years. If I could pull $3500 I would dump it for another leftover/low hour 17’ RMZ and swap all of my parts over that would fit. But that’s just a pipe dream, it was worth $2500 the day it hit the track up here and if I knew that beforehand I might’ve changed my mind.

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