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5/12/2011 9:28am
5/12/2011 9:28am
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1/27/2012 6:58am
Looking at getting a new 450 soon, anybody on here got a 2010 or 2011 crf450? or a 2011 rmz 450? what do you think of them? Ive always liked the way the suzukis turn, but i like how light the honda feels, and i also like the idea of the seperate engine/ gear oil.
The Shop
I've also ridden the RMZ, and I must say after having the lighter CRF I'd go that route (obviously I did already). You can throw a lot of money at suspension for both bikes to make them suit you, but when I ride another 450 the obvious difference to me is it feels big and heavy. I can't even ride '08 CRF450s anymore because the weight makes such a big difference to me.
I posted a thing the other day in the race shop forums about riding a slightly modified 2010 CRF , and I didn't care for it all. I would race my 08' Honda before I would the 2010 model.....just didn't care for the way it felt underneath me , and the power seemed pretty low to be honest.
Also.....all these 450's are really close in performance....just pick the one that feels the most comfortable for you. It would be nice to get what your local bike shop carries , but you can get parts just as easy online.....and you can get the bike that suits you best.
Seriously though... If you are going to a message board to ask what bike you should get, it really doesn't fucking matter which one you get....
finding a honda or suzuki wouldnt be a problem (i'm in england) there are plenty of them about.
People can go round and round all day about this goofy shit but just find two bikes to test and give them a shot. Whichever you like go buy. All the 450s are good bikes these days. You'll always find someone who praises them and another who thinks they're the biggest piles of shit ever.
As far as I know, the RMZ has no "know" issues. Be aware of the fuel in the oil issue that a lot of CRF owners are having. I guess there are some issues with the injector? Some people are reporting several hundred cc's of fuel in the oil after only an hour of riding. I saw something from Honda that said not to worry unless your oil was 15% fuel. That would make me nervous.
Rebates on the Honda make it cheaper, I have a buddy that recently paid 6300(?) for his after 1000 rebate. I paid 7300 for my Zook which was about 110 over dealer cost. If you are close to that then you did pretty good.
I had an 09 CRF 450, Pipe, Eddie S map, 0.49kg fork springs and done!! If you have a clue about suspension you can very easily dial the Honda in without spending $750 on suspension like someone said. The "stinkbug" feeling is caused by the forks riding way down in the stroke due to Hondas choice of light springs.
I ride +30 Expert, run a stock shock with +2 front springs and love mine. New CRF.. same thing... Pipe, program, fork springs.
BTW, I had 60+ hours on that weak Honda clutch...lol, Never had a problem.
I ride Hondas because they feel good to me... You need to decide what you like.
Pit Row
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Motodrive/New-Rider-Questions,44
The Suzukis have been great for years, consistently the best on the track.
The yamaha is a Huck-a-buck, and the kawi is a beast for anyone but RV.
Looking more likely that I'll be getting a suzuki at the moment as I dont have alot of spare cash to spend on getting the bike dialled in!
thanks to everybody that left constructive comments
RMZ if you ride Track, Big "outdoor" type tracks, Trail, Off-Road...etc.
Good luck finding the '11 RMZ, tho...I hear the dealer stock is dryin' up.
Thats in the uk though, our tracks will be at much lower altitude than most of yours (and the weather is alot colder)
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