2010 Number should look like this...

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RYAN DUNGEY HAS THE CHOICE OF NUMBERS 5,6,8 OR HE COULD KEEP 10 OR PICK ANY 2 DIGIT OR 3 DIGIT NUMBER OPEN

THE OTHER 2 RIDERS THAT FINISHED TOP 10 OVERALL IN POINTS AND GET TO PICK A NUMBER ARE JOSH GRANT WHO HAS
SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP #33

AND CHRISTOPHE POURCEL WHO HAS SAID HE WILL KEEP #377

IF RYAN DUNGEY WANTS TO RUN 5,6,OR 8 THAN EVERYONE WILL JUMP UP TO THE NEXT NUMBER..AND IT WOULD ADD TRAVIS SEWELL FROM NO NUMBER TO #99

I ALSO DID THE TIE BREAKERS ON BEST MOTO FINISH

RIDER: PTS: #

CHAD REED 854 22
ANDREW SHORT 658 29
IVAN TEDESCO 602 9
JOSH GRANT 517 *33
RYAN DUNGEY 503 10
CHRISTOPHE POURCEL 492 *377
DAVI MILLSAPS 394 18
BRETT METCALFE 378 24
JAMES STEWART 377 7
MICHAEL BYRNE 375 26
TOMMY HAHN 369 12
MIKE ALESSI 360 800
JAKE WEIMER 353 17
JUSTIN BARCIA 340 19
TOMMY SEARLE 332 20
NICK WEY 293 27
RYAN VILLOPOTO 288 2
BROC TICKLE 285 21
BLAKE WHARTON 273 23
JUSTIN BRAYTON 272 28
KEVIN WINDHAM 245 14
TYLA RATTRAY 236 30
JOSH HILL 196 75
CODY COOPER 191 31
MATT LEMOINE 189 32
TIMMY FERRY 187 15
KYLE CUNNINGHAM 186 33
JIMMY ALBERTSON 185 34
MATT GOERKE 154 35
DARREN DURHAM 150 36
TYLER BOWERS 143 37
TREY CANARD 139 38
RICKY DIETRICH 136 39
JAKE MOSS 126 40
KYLE REGAL 126 41
STEVEN CLARK 126 42
BEN EVANS 126 43
P.J. LARSEN 121 44
AUSTIN STROUPE 120 45
RYAN SIPES 110 46
MATT BONI 127 47
MAX ANSTIE 107 48
WILL HAHN 104 49
HEATH VOSS 103 13
ALEX MARTIN 100 50
PAUL CARPENTER 96 51
ANTONIO BALBI 94 52
JEFF ALESSI 88 53
JASON LAWRENCE 85 54
KLYE CHISHOLM 79 55
BROC HELPER 76 60
BEN COISY 75 56
JARRED BROWNE 74 57
WESTON PEICK 72 58
DANIEL REARDON 68 59
VINCE FREISE 66 61
JASON THOMAS 64 62
SEAN BORKENHAGEN 63 63
TAYLOR FUTRELL 56 64
TROY ADAMS 53 65
BLAKE BAGGETT 50 66
CHRIS BLOSE 47 67
BOBBY KINIRY 44 68
ADAM CHATFIELD 43 69
ROBBY MARSHALL 41 70
KLYE SUMMERS 41 71
CHRISTIAN CRAIG 34 72
BEN LAMAY 33 73
JOHN DOWD 33 16
TUCKER HIBBERT 31 74
MARTIN DAVALOS 28 76
MIKE BROWN 27 3
NATHAN RAMSEY 27 25
JOSH SUMMEY 25 77
GAVIN GRACYK 23 78
JUSTIN SIPES 23 79
BILLY LANINOVICH 23 80
COLE SIEBLER 23 81
JESSE CASILLAS 22 82
STEVE BONIFACE 22 83
MICHAEL HALL 21 84
BOBBY BONDS 21 85
SCOTT CHAMPION 21 86
RICKY RENNER 19 87
JAKE MARSACK 19 88
LES SMITH 19 89
WILLY BROWNING 18 90
JASE LEWIS 17 91
MICHAEL WILLARD 16 92
JUSTIN MCDONALD 16 93
RYAN MORAIS 14 94
LUCAS CRESPI 14 95
JOSH HANSEN 12 96
TOPHER INGALLS 11 97
ROBERT FITCH JR. 11 98
ROBERTO CASTRO 11 99
TRAVIS SEWELL 11
PHILLIP NICOLETTI 11
COLE SEELY 10
LEVI KILBARGER 10
DANIEL MCCOY 10
CARL NUNN 10
TOMMY WEECK 10
JAMES DECOTIS 9
JUSTIN WEEKS 9
ERIC NYE 9
KYLE KEYLON 9
SHAUN SKINNER 9
TIM WEIGAND 8
LUKE GEORGE 8
TRAVIS PRESTON 7 11
RYAN CLARK 7
JOSH DEMUTH 7
SHANE SEWELL 7
TYE HAMES 7
LUKE BURKHART 6
JOSHUA CLARK 6
KYLE PARTRIDGE 6
JACOB MORRISON 5
TYLER MEDAGLIA 5
DONALD VAWSER 5
DREW YENERICH 4
RYAN ABRIGO 4
JEFF NORTHROP 4
SEAN HACKLEY 4
TRAVIS BANNISTER 4
SPENCER DALIY 4
KYLE TOBIN 4
SEAN HAMBLIN 3
DANIEL BLAIR 2
TYLER BRIGHT 2
RONNIE STEWART 2
BRANDEN MILLER 2
CHRIS GOSSELARRA 2
MICHAEL STRYKER 2
BRUCE RUTHERFORD 2
TONY SHERMAN 2
BILLY AINSWORTH 2
KYLE GILLS 1
RUSTIN MEYER 1
DENNIS JONON 1
JAY WELLER 1

When i posted this everything was in line and was easy to read i don't know what happen it looks like a mess...
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Rupert X 9/7/2009 11:15am
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Cool, thanks for doing the math, Truman.

Maniacally stoked that our boy, Willy B will be a two-digit midget.

# 90.

Long time coming.
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kevin204 9/7/2009 11:21am
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Pretty sure #17 still belongs to Reynard doesn't it? And 23 to Kyle Lewis? I think they both earned at least a point.
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DC 9/7/2009 11:25am
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Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

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rc4187 9/7/2009 11:26am
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I also think Langston will remain with #8 since he plans to return next year. He is a past champion so technically a single digit is still reserved for him.

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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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i like that idea better DC, i think a 2 digit number is a prized reward for some guys, and having them kept for older riders that ride once a year is a bit wrong,


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Holigan 9/7/2009 11:42am
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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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Love it.
statefeed&grain 9/7/2009 11:49am
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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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Great idea. Please make this change for 2010.
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rc4187 wrote:
I also think Langston will remain with #8 since he plans to return next year. He is a past champion so technically a single digit is...
I also think Langston will remain with #8 since he plans to return next year. He is a past champion so technically a single digit is still reserved for him.
He hasn't scored points in 2 seasons, so it's not his anymore.
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raddad 9/7/2009 11:56am
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I like the permanent numbers we have now. Its easy to find the guys for me and the folks that only go to one or two races a year. I would hate to see it change (again) just when things are starting to make sense and have some continuity. I vote to leave it aloneSmile

If you are worried about the old timers keeping numbers simply make them earn more points per year than one. But then again how cool is it to see dowd or others out there using their familiar numbers?!
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j100 9/7/2009 12:06pm
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great idea!

+'s and -'s to it for branding, but when guys like Mike Brown keep the number 3 and RR keeps 17, ect... its not fair to the guys that earned that number.

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9/7/2009 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2009 1:09pm
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Rupert X 9/7/2009 12:23pm
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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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Yup. I'm with ya brother. That sounds cool. Perplexing that a damned Canadian

Vegasite had to come up with that one.(Just messin' wid ya Steve, nobody panic.)

I also fully understand and hopefully other folks will , too - that now that SX and MX are

managed by completely separate entities, coordinating things like numbers

assignment - through mutually compounding points - is, (I'm guessing here) a mite

trickier than it was previously. Hopefully , diplomatic discussion can bring agreement in

the number assignment game. Also, worth noting, it is difficult to accept that with today's

economy, even a LOW two-digit numeral isn't going to necessarily

garner you the ride, fame and fortune - it once might have.

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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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scott_nz wrote:
i like that idea better DC, i think a 2 digit number is a prized reward for some guys, and having them kept for older riders...
i like that idea better DC, i think a 2 digit number is a prized reward for some guys, and having them kept for older riders that ride once a year is a bit wrong,


I agree for a privateer it would be awesome to have bragging rights on how low your number was in your career. As well as all the other great points made on this subject.

Make it happen DC. Great idea.
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Truman 9/7/2009 12:32pm
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I just did the number both ways and both ways are almost the same...one more rider gets a number if we go back to the old system...

the only rider that is not top 99 in points is travis preston so he would be the only guy to get a number that didnt earn it with the current system...

so why not keep it the way it is and if a guy wants to run a 3 digit then bump everyone up a number?
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You have James Stewart 357 he had 377 points which moves Tommy Hahn back to 11th overall which means he don't get a permanent #...

Im pretty sure you didn't add Vegas into your points or something alot of your guys are off...#2 is off by 25 which would mean Vegas...
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Truman 9/7/2009 12:53pm
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Thats before vegas click on your link again....it shows no points for RD 17...






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Finish positions shown in parenthesis Series schedule
Pos. Pts. Rider name RD 1 RD 2 RD 3 RD 4 RD 5 RD 6 RD 7 RD 8 RD 9 RD 10 RD 11 RD 12 RD 13 RD 14 RD 15 RD 16 RD 17
1 377 J. Stewart 2 (19) 25 (1) 25 (1) 25 (1) 25 (1) 25 (1) 25 (1) 25 (1) 22 (2) 14 (7) 25 (1) 22 (2) 25 (1) 25 (1) 22 (2) 25 (1) 20 (3)
2 373 C. Reed 20 (3) 22 (2) 22 (2) 22 (2) 22 (2) 22 (2) 22 (2) 22 (2) 25 (1) 25 (1) 22 (2) 25 (1) 22 (2) 22 (2) 14 (7) 22 (2) 22 (2)
3 270 A. Short 22 (2) 16 (5) 15 (6) 18 (4) 16 (5) 15 (6) 20 (3) 18 (4) 10 (11) 13 (8) 16 (5) 18 (4) 12 (9) 16 (5) 16 (5) 16 (5) 13 (8)
4 237 J. Grant 25 (1) 20 (3) 16 (5) 16 (5) 18 (4) 16 (5) 1 (20) 8 (13) 18 (4) 14 (7) 20 (3) 18 (4) 3 (18) 15 (6) 15 (6) 14 (7)
5 236 K. Windham 6 (15) 15 (6) 20 (3) 12 (9) 15 (6) 14 (7) 14 (7) 15 (6) 1 (20) 16 (5) 18 (4) 12 (9) 15 (6) 20 (3) 11 (10) 14 (7) 18 (4)
6 233 R. Villopoto 16 (5) 14 (7) 18 (4) 20 (3) 20 (3) 18 (4) 20 (3) 12 (9) 15 (6) 12 (9) 25 (1) 18 (4) 25 (1)
7 226 I. Tedesco 15 (6) 18 (4) 14 (7) 15 (6) 11 (10) 18 (4) 11 (10) 14 (7) 16 (5) 8 (13) 8 (13) 15 (6) 16 (5) 8 (13) 12 (9) 11 (10) 16 (5)
8 219 D. Millsaps 9 (12) 11 (10) 11 (10) 11 (10) 13 (8) 20 (3) 16 (5) 11 (10) 14 (7) 20 (3) 3 (18) 13 (8) 14 (7) 2 (19) 20 (3) 20 (3) 11 (10)
9 218 M. Alessi 10 (11) 10 (11) 12 (9) 14 (7) 12 (9) 10 (11) 15 (6) 10 (11) 20 (3) 18 (4) 15 (6) 14 (7) 10 (11) 15 (6) 18 (4) 15 (6)
10 146 J. Hill 5 (16) 13 (8) 9 (12) 10 (11) 14 (7) 13 (8) 12 (9) 6 (15) 10 (11) 10 (11) 6 (15) 20 (3) 18 (4)
11 110 M. Boni 7 (14) 1 (20) 1 (20) 6 (15) 9 (12) 9 (12) 9 (12) 3 (18) 11 (10) 9 (12) 13 (8) 5 (16) 7 (14) 13 (8) 7 (14)
12 103 H. Voss 14 (7) 7 (14) 9 (12) 10 (11) 5 (16) 6 (15) 8 (13) 6 (15) 5 (16) 4 (17) 12 (9) 9 (12) 7 (14) 1 (20)
13 100 T. Ferry 18 (4) 12 (9) 13 (8) 13 (8) 11 (10) 7 (14) 13 (8) 11 (10) 2 (19)
14 98 N. Wey 12 (9) 6 (15) 8 (13) 6 (15) 12 (9) 6 (15) 5 (16) 9 (12) 6 (15) 10 (11) 9 (12) 9 (12)
15 96 P. Carpenter 11 (10) 8 (13) 10 (11) 8 (13) 2 (19) 7 (14) 11 (10) 7 (14) 1 (20) 13 (8) 10 (11) 8 (13)
16 79 K. Chisholm 4 (17) 7 (14) 12 (9) 8 (13) 7 (14) 5 (16) 2 (19) 8 (13) 8 (13) 13 (8) 5 (16) 0 (20)
17 76 B. Hepler 2 (19) 16 (5) 2 (19) 9 (12) 20 (3) 7 (14) 4 (17) 10 (11) 6 (15)
18 75 B. Coisy 13 (8) 4 (17) 5 (16) 9 (12) 3 (18) 2 (19) 15 (6) 4 (17) 11 (10) 9 (12)
19 67 T. Hahn 2 (19) 9 (12) 5 (16) 11 (10) 1 (20) 2 (19) 14 (7) 8 (13) 12 (9) 3 (18)
20 43 J. Lawrence 22 (2) 16 (5) 1 (20) 4 (17)
21 41 T. Bowers 5 (16) 3 (18) 3 (18) 7 (14) 7 (14) 2 (19) 5 (16) 4 (17) 3 (18) 2 (19)
22 37 T. Adams 2 (19) 6 (15) 3 (18) 1 (20) 5 (16) 4 (17) 4 (17) 6 (15) 2 (19) 4 (17)
23 31 R. Sipes 7 (14) 12 (9) 5 (16) 7 (14)
24 27 M. Byrne 13 (8) 13 (8) 1 (20)
25 27 N. Ramsey 6 (15) 9 (12) 12 (9)
26 24 C. Summey 1 (20) 9 (12) 3 (18) 10 (11) 1 (20)
27 23 J. Brayton 13 (8) 10 (11)
28 23 B. Laninovich 3 (18) 11 (10) 1 (20) 8 (13)
29 23 C. Siebler 8 (13) 7 (14) 8 (13)
30 22 S. Boniface 4 (17) 5 (16) 1 (20) 8 (13) 4 (17)
31 20 R. Kiniry 3 (18) 5 (16) 2 (19) 4 (17) 1 (20) 5 (16)
32 16 J. Thomas 6 (15) 10 (11)
33 12 J. Hansen 4 (17) 1 (20) 4 (17) 3 (18)
34 11 J. Marsack 3 (18) 3 (18) 5 (16)
35 10 D. McCoy 6 (15) 4 (17)
36 7 T. Preston 7 (14)
37 6 J. Casillas 6 (15)
38 6 K. Partridge 2 (19) 4 (17)
39 3 S. Hamblin 3 (18)
40 3 D. Blair 3 (18)
41 2 M. Rivas 2 (19)

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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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That sounds way better. I think they should go that route.
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DC wrote:
Rup, Truman: Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based...
Rup, Truman:

Matthes offered up an idea here that is gaining traction: Give single digits to past national champs, everything else is up for grabs based on season points (old school) and change each year based on the previous season's results:

So in 2010, Reed would be #1 in MX but can chose a permanent number (or maybe even 22), Stewart would keep 7 and Tedesco 9, but then Short would be 10, Grant 11, etc...

And if a guy like Alessi or Reardon or J-Law wants to stay triple digit, everyone else moves up a spot.

I think the numbering system worked okay for guys like RC and MC and now Stewart, but when riders that rarely race SX/MX and hold their numbers (Dowd's 16, RR's 17, Sellards' 18) it really hurts guys who should get national numbers based on their current season....

Pourcel can keep 377, and Alessi 800, but everyone else would be counted by their points earned.

What do you guys think?

DC
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Thats the way it should be.... No offense to Dowd, RR or Sellard but they do not deserve to have 2 digit numbers...Its a Great Idea
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Truman 9/7/2009 1:00pm
9/7/2009 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:01am
MXerDW wrote:
Damn-it, you are correct.

Motocross action did the same thing I did.
They have Stewart listed with 357 points...lol
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod…
haha just this 1 time...Yeah i seen that maybe they should Hire me Smile


Best way to make it fair to the guys who have earned a top 10 overall before is to keep the system the way it is...Short 29,Windham 24, Wey 27, but if someone is going to use a 3 digit then move everyone up..


Guys like...

114,122,123,132,338,377,411,577,801,911,981


Call all these guys above and see if they want to run a 3 digit if they don't then move some people up...


statefeed&grain 9/7/2009 1:36pm
9/7/2009 1:36pm
The permanent number system works great in Nascar where the drivers and teams have a 15-25 year career. In our sport 5-10 years is the norm. Much easier for the fans to identify a top rider by how low the number is. I don't think they should allow top riders to run 3 digit numbers for this reason but thats just my worthless opinion.
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mxknowitall 9/7/2009 2:28pm
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MXerDW wrote:
Damn-it, you are correct.

Motocross action did the same thing I did.
They have Stewart listed with 357 points...lol
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod…
Truman wrote:
haha just this 1 time...Yeah i seen that maybe they should Hire me :) Best way to make it fair to the guys who have earned...
haha just this 1 time...Yeah i seen that maybe they should Hire me Smile


Best way to make it fair to the guys who have earned a top 10 overall before is to keep the system the way it is...Short 29,Windham 24, Wey 27, but if someone is going to use a 3 digit then move everyone up..


Guys like...

114,122,123,132,338,377,411,577,801,911,981


Call all these guys above and see if they want to run a 3 digit if they don't then move some people up...


Random question for you Dan... Do you take classes at USF?
Chest Rockwell 9/7/2009 2:41pm
9/7/2009 2:41pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:02am
DC:

I'm not too sure about this, but don't the numbers stay with the cars in NASCAR, except in a few cases?

Why keep the permanent numbers at all? In my opinion, with all due respect, that is half of the problem with the sport. Too much credit, respect, (call it what you will) given to past champs, or guys who had a great season the year prior to when the current, permanent numbering system went into place.

Maybe, a points based, annual numbering system (w/out permanent #'s except the #1's) is what the sport needs. Set it up like the (I hate to use this example) NFL draft, where each rider gets paid a predetermined amount, depending on the place/slot they finished (or in the NFL draft, where they were drafted) in the prior year year. Incentives kick in from there for race and moto wins, which is where the rider has some negotiating power and the free market can still play its role.

If someone wants a two year agreement, they had better perform both years, or else the OEm gets a great price on that second year...

Seems this way, each rider would earn their keep and, concurrently, stay hungry throughout their careers.

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oldx 9/7/2009 2:54pm
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lI like the idea.
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DD410 9/7/2009 2:55pm
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to many perminant numbers are made.
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TerryK 9/7/2009 5:12pm
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kevin204 wrote:
Pretty sure #17 still belongs to Reynard doesn't it? And 23 to Kyle Lewis? I think they both earned at least a point.
After 12 years, RR failed to score a point so he lost #17. Bummer.
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Truman 9/7/2009 5:36pm
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MXerDW wrote:
Damn-it, you are correct.

Motocross action did the same thing I did.
They have Stewart listed with 357 points...lol
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=news&mod…
Truman wrote:
haha just this 1 time...Yeah i seen that maybe they should Hire me :) Best way to make it fair to the guys who have earned...
haha just this 1 time...Yeah i seen that maybe they should Hire me Smile


Best way to make it fair to the guys who have earned a top 10 overall before is to keep the system the way it is...Short 29,Windham 24, Wey 27, but if someone is going to use a 3 digit then move everyone up..


Guys like...

114,122,123,132,338,377,411,577,801,911,981


Call all these guys above and see if they want to run a 3 digit if they don't then move some people up...


mxknowitall wrote:
Random question for you Dan... Do you take classes at USF?
No i don't.

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