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7/5/2018 8:32 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/5/2018 8:32 PM

It seems that to want a two stroke you either have to be so slow that it doesn't matter that youre at a disadvantage, or so fast that it doesn't matter what bike youre on , you still pass everyone. If youre an average rider, riding a two stroke definitely lets guys slower than you be able to hang with you.


7/5/2018 8:52 PM

When mxa compared a yz250f and a yz250 a few years ago their test riders ran the fastest lap on the 2 stroke but also the slowest lap on a 2 stroke. The 4 stroke is easier to put in consistent laps.
Going by amateur rules, 250f vs 250T, I feel there is not much difference. Each bike will have advantages and disadvantages. Going by pro rules the 2 stroke has no chance


7/5/2018 8:53 PM

So, do you want to be faster than you are or, do you want to learn how to go fast?


7/5/2018 9:30 PM

God, please make it stop


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7/5/2018 9:39 PM

Thumbs up if you’re over this shit


7/5/2018 9:52 PM

I fall under the average category and sold my 450 a few months back to buy a YZ250. Best decision I’ve made. Figured I’d be fine being slower on it since I only ride once every 2-3 months now. Ride it for the second time yesterday and had no problem staying with my dad and a few of his buddies, all of which are 45 and 50+ experts. Yesterday I learned that I was able to charge harder down the hills, stop quicker, have more control, carry more momentum everywhere and carry more speed through corners. And guess what, it was a blast! I haven’t had that much fun on a 450 ever. It was awesome!

Some guys can adapt and learn to ride them while others don’t want to take the time to learn how to ride them. Might take a while to go as fast on a smoker, but I guarantee you’ll have way more fun once you learn to ride it right.


2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

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7/5/2018 11:43 PM

Well I've got 2 of each. When I get to it I'm gonna do a real comparison between the 4 of them and see which one I'm fastest on...wanna geta litpro setup first though...At this point in time ,I suspect itwillbe my 250 two stroke, but I really don't know


2020 YZ450F
2006 YZ125
2013 YZ 250F special edition
2017 YZ 250
2022 YZ 125 monster edition
2019 KTM 85 big wheel ,built up as a 105 super mini
1979 YZ 250
1980 YZ 125 project
1980 YZ 250 project
1981 YZ 250 project
2022 Stark Varg...coming soon!
2023 KTM 300 sx...coming sooner..🤣🤣

7/6/2018 3:08 AM

Honestly unless your into serious racing who cares what bike your on. Go out and have fun riding your dirtbike. That’s what really matters.


2011 Yamaha YZ 250 -MX
1996 Yamaha Banshee 350 -Trails
1982 Chevy S10
2005 Pontiac GTO -451rwhp

7/6/2018 3:35 AM

Buy whatever you have the most fun on. I went back to a 2 stroke this year and I am 100% not as fast as I was on my KXF but I have more fun on the 2 stroke. Isn't that why we all do this, fun?


7/6/2018 3:53 AM

eric513anderson wrote:

Honestly unless your into serious racing who cares what bike your on. Go out and have fun riding your dirtbike. That’s what ...more

Right it's al about the fun, and the most important it's be the confidence you have on/in the bike.
If you not get the right feeling with the bike it doesn't matter witch bike is faster


7/6/2018 4:56 AM


7/6/2018 5:57 AM

I have a much easier time throwing sick whips for the chicks and winning practice on the two stroke, and that's all that really matters bro.


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7/6/2018 6:26 AM

Instead of 2t vs 4t, should be titled 2t and 4t. There’s different horses for courses. Factor in the fun element and arguments can be made for days for either.

Point being they’re tools for the job. Personally, if the job is to have fun and stay sharp, spin laps on a 125. You want lap times, look no further than a 450. Off-road agility and prowess, a 300 2t. Vintage/Evo a CR480, Baja?...the list goes on.

Will I get rid of my of my old 2 strokes? Not anytime soon. There is no perfect bike, but with that said Alta’s slowly but surely inserting themselves into the conversation. The recent ‘19 EXR review is very appealing on a number of fronts/issues that face dual sport riders and their MXR has already been a game changer.

Sooner than later a new thread title should read...”2T and 4T and E-bike”...a yes/thumbs up/like for all of them.


7/6/2018 6:41 AM

Thumbs down if you’ve got both.


Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

7/6/2018 7:29 AM

I'm faster for the first few laps on a 250 2 stroke. I'm faster the last few laps on a 250F since it doesn't tire me out. It evens out to about the same overall time and placement. If I was in better shape, I think I'd place better on the 2 stroke. This is comparing 250 vs. 250. I don't much care for 450s. I'm tempted to get rid of both and get a 350.


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7/6/2018 9:36 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/6/2018 9:37 AM

I’ve had no issue hanging with my local 4-stroke class peers (+40 B/C) on my 02 CR, but there’s a few catches:
-it’s ported/Head milled/piped/etc.
-I’m working twice as hard
-I could go faster with less effort on a 450
-it gets really sketchy when the track is blown-out hardpack
-while I can nail a decent start, it takes me timing everything perfectly. Bog/wheelie or shift late, bye bye pack...

The upside is that the 250 is a hoot. Especially on a sandy or loamy track with big berms. But even there, I hopped on my dads 450 and instantly went faster with less effort. I FEEL faster on the 250, but I’m not. Especially when I start to get tired.


7/6/2018 9:56 AM

The main reason I like two-strokes is I can fix about anything myself except for a transmission problem. You can have a shitload of fun for very low investment, but then again, I'm not trying to win races.


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