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2 Strokes alive in New England
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A 125 class with 250cc bikes in it.
Let's look at this shall we
Gee little Billy we can get you a bike that comes with 10 more hp out of the box, cheaper to buy, maintain, lighter, has superior handling, and a hell of a lot more fun to ride, and oh yea did I mention it sounds BAD A$$ and smells good too!!!
Or we can get you an overweight pig that cost more, is slower, handles like a dump truck, is a ticking time bomb, that once that baby goes we won't be able to fix it, and sounds like the bathroom at a Taco Bell...
I mean do we need to get Glenn Beck on this forum with a chalk board to explain it to the to our esteemed four choke buddies....
Jim Jones, calling Jim Jones, uuuhhhh were gonna need some more kool-aid around here....
I demand to see a CR500 in the 250 class, then!
But I guess they're jumping onto 450s for that race.
It's OK with me...
sorta like Arizona forcing the immigration issue with the Federal government. Even if their provocative solution isn't exactly right, it forces the larger governing body to recognize that the situation needs attention and action. It is brilliantly obnoxious in that way.
-Dean
300cc misfit
This is exactly what I said 6 years ago.
The people that run NESC are old school and I don't see them changing the name for a long time.
Most of the other orgs have gone to the MX...MX Lites monikers.
At WSP we call it 250 since 250's all run together and 450 since there is already an Open....lol.
I think the reason you see more inexpereinced riders staying away from the 250 smoker is it requires more skill to go fast.
The top guys can pin it and rail a bike like that all over the track where a lesser experienced rider would fall all over the place.
Pit Row
But I don't thing it will ever happen in pro.
If you are on a YZ then no problem but Honda, Kawi and Suzuki don't make a current model two stroke 250.
I know of one rider that had issues because of running of brand new 250F frame with a 250 two stroke engine in it.
They aren't giving up on buying the 4 stroke......
They buy the 250F for the contingency and then put a different motor in it.
First, the 250t is a faster easier to maintain bike. I love to hear them and watch them on the track. They do smell good too.
However, they are not as easy to ride. Who's winning the 250 classes at LL? The two-strokes are legal there. It is a fact that 99% of amateur riders can finish a 5 lap race in less time on a 250f than they can a 250t. The bikes are more forgiving and can be ridden harder without wearing you out.
Now an accomplished rider, say mid-pack B level and up will be far better off on a two-stroke. I'll grant you that.
As for the smell, I like the smell of U4 or MRX01 or that MX-pro4 or whatever it is the pros run just as much as C12 on Klotz. Well, maybe almost as much.
As for contingency, we had Kaw contingency in the state series here for years. I kept telling the guys that were running out to buy new Kawis every year that they needed to consider what they were doing. The large majority of them never saw contingency. Only a handful of guys do all the winning locally most of the time. Those guys who were winning were spending all their contingency money keeping their Kawi four-bangers running. Now, the economy is crap, 40% of the bikes at an Alabama race are green and Kawi has pulled out of the series. It worked great for them.
Less skill required + faster heavier machines = more injuries
Why can't people see that?
Anyone who thinks a 450 is not an open bike is crazy. And for smaller kids and girls to have to make the step to a 250f is dangerous. They are heavier than the 125's they are replacing, faster, and easier to ride. This makes for a dangerous combination for a smaller weaker rider. Get out of shape and you are going faster trying to pull a heavier bike back into line. And when you hit the dirt the bigger bikes always seem to follow you more too.
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