1984 or 1985 CR250

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12/13/2020 12:34 PM

Alright, so my brother bought a 1985(or 1984, not sure.) CR250 from my uncle about 16 years ago, for $300. The bike was ridden maybe 3 times the first year he bought it, and has sat ever since.
Now, I have wanted to do a restoration bike for the past couple of years and my brother would sell me the bike for what he has into it ($300 +$100 once at the shop).
Would you guys buy it for $400?
Curious to know what you all think.

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12/13/2020 12:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 12:38 PM

I would buy it for $1400, lol. Definitely an '85.

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12/13/2020 12:38 PM

Check the clutch/water pump cover for rot.

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12/13/2020 12:43 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 12:44 PM

‘85. I’d offer $700

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12/13/2020 12:44 PM

I'd definitely buy it for $400.

He's your brother, so just tell him you'll pay him later... we all know how that goes. grin

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

12/13/2020 1:15 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 1:15 PM

It's an 85 and the water pump cover more than likely has mag rot. Definitely worth 400.

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12/13/2020 1:23 PM

Fuckin buy it right now...

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scte3.0 pro-line trinity tekin

12/13/2020 1:23 PM

85 for sure, just take the bike, it'll probably take him 16 years to figure out its not there.

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12/13/2020 1:28 PM

On the 85, weren’t you able to use a pump cover off a 89 with minimal modifications as that was the first non magnesium year?

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12/13/2020 1:38 PM

why would you even have to think about that.... get it for sure!!!

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Don’t piss off the old people - the older they get the less “life in prison” is a deterrent for them!

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12/13/2020 1:46 PM

Why would anybody who knows anything about motocross even ask this question? Buy it!

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12/13/2020 1:49 PM

"Hey Bro, Uncle gave you a great deal, I'm paying it forward. Here's your $700. Don't argue."

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12/13/2020 1:50 PM

Buy it!!!!!

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

12/13/2020 3:28 PM

If you buy it you will be 1k cost in parts before you know it. The time and money you spend on these bikes is a true passion.

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12/13/2020 4:44 PM

I'm not a Honda guy, and I'd even buy it. Do it NOW

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12/13/2020 5:07 PM

400.00$ ! Grab that thing and do a proper refresh in the build section... as already noted, the water pump cavity will be your first area of concern. The old Honda’s were built really well,... save it👍

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12/13/2020 6:11 PM

I'll buy it for a grand and you can pocket the premium. What a year....

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12/13/2020 6:31 PM

Holy smokes, guess I'm picking up another project! I'm curious though, what makes this bike so special?
Little note, I didn't start watching, or getting into moto till 2004. Once I got into it, I then went back and watched as much of the 90's McGrath era I could, but I never really got into the 80's racing. I know little to nothing about the 80's.

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12/13/2020 7:15 PM

Chance1216 wrote:

On the 85, weren’t you able to use a pump cover off a 89 with minimal modifications as that was the first non magnesium year?

No

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12/13/2020 7:16 PM

CR92 wrote:

Holy smokes, guess I'm picking up another project! I'm curious though, what makes this bike so special?
Little note, I didn't start watching, or getting into moto till 2004. Once I got into it, I then went back and watched as much of the 90's McGrath era I could, but I never really got into the 80's racing. I know little to nothing about the 80's.

Its special cause allot of guys on here rode that bike for years.

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12/13/2020 7:26 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 7:26 PM

Does it annoy the piss out of anyone else that the radiator shroud decals are on backwards? If you don't pick that up, I'm just speechless. What a find.

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12/13/2020 7:53 PM

Chance1216 wrote:

On the 85, weren’t you able to use a pump cover off a 89 with minimal modifications as that was the first non magnesium year?

numbers wrote:

No

Did you just throw that out there? 84 was the bastard year.
I wasn’t sure. Do your research before commenting.
Pulled this off another forum.

Yes a water pump cover from a 1989 CR250 will work on a 1985 CR250.


1989 CR250 water pump cover part number 11340-KS7-831 WILL FIT the 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 And of course the 1989 CR250's!!!

YOU WILL need to also order part number 90084-KF9-900 (alternator cap cover) and part number 91303-377-000 (o ring for alternator cap) and 11342-KS7-701 (clutch cover (Honda no longer carries this part, you will need to find it on ebay or a motorcycle salvage yard) and the clutch cover o ring part number 91311-KS7-701.

The difference between the 1985/86 from the 1987 water pump cover is the 1987 water pump cover had a removable clutch cover.

The difference between the 1989 water pump cover and the 1985, 1986, 1987 water pump cover is that there is a minor difference on how you are able to access the water pump governor. The 1989 water pump cover is also available from Honda and it is made from ALUMINUM!

The 1981 CR250 water pump covers (which are made from aluminum) will fit the 1982 and 1983 CR250's.

To sum up.
If you have a 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 Honda CR250 with a bad water pump cover, you can order directly from Honda an aluminum water pump cover from a 1989 Honda CR250.
You will also need to get a clutch cover if you have a 1985/86 CR250, which you need to find used and the alternator cap cover and ring and of course the water pump gasket (part number 11395-KS7-306).

The "orphan" water pump cover is the 1984 CR250, it apparently is a "one year only" water pump cover.


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12/13/2020 7:55 PM

Chance1216 wrote:

On the 85, weren’t you able to use a pump cover off a 89 with minimal modifications as that was the first non magnesium year?

numbers wrote:

No

Chance1216 wrote:

Did you just throw that out there? 84 was the bastard year.
I wasn’t sure. Do your research before commenting.
Pulled this off another forum.

Yes a water pump cover from a 1989 CR250 will work on a 1985 CR250.


1989 CR250 water pump cover part number 11340-KS7-831 WILL FIT the 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 And of course the 1989 CR250's!!!

YOU WILL need to also order part number 90084-KF9-900 (alternator cap cover) and part number 91303-377-000 (o ring for alternator cap) and 11342-KS7-701 (clutch cover (Honda no longer carries this part, you will need to find it on ebay or a motorcycle salvage yard) and the clutch cover o ring part number 91311-KS7-701.

The difference between the 1985/86 from the 1987 water pump cover is the 1987 water pump cover had a removable clutch cover.

The difference between the 1989 water pump cover and the 1985, 1986, 1987 water pump cover is that there is a minor difference on how you are able to access the water pump governor. The 1989 water pump cover is also available from Honda and it is made from ALUMINUM!

The 1981 CR250 water pump covers (which are made from aluminum) will fit the 1982 and 1983 CR250's.

To sum up.
If you have a 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 Honda CR250 with a bad water pump cover, you can order directly from Honda an aluminum water pump cover from a 1989 Honda CR250.
You will also need to get a clutch cover if you have a 1985/86 CR250, which you need to find used and the alternator cap cover and ring and of course the water pump gasket (part number 11395-KS7-306).

The "orphan" water pump cover is the 1984 CR250, it apparently is a "one year only" water pump cover.


No

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12/13/2020 7:59 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 8:01 PM

Chance1216 wrote:

On the 85, weren’t you able to use a pump cover off a 89 with minimal modifications as that was the first non magnesium year?

numbers wrote:

No

Chance1216 wrote:

Did you just throw that out there? 84 was the bastard year.
I wasn’t sure. Do your research before commenting.
Pulled this off another forum.

Yes a water pump cover from a 1989 CR250 will work on a 1985 CR250.


1989 CR250 water pump cover part number 11340-KS7-831 WILL FIT the 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 And of course the 1989 CR250's!!!

YOU WILL need to also order part number 90084-KF9-900 (alternator cap cover) and part number 91303-377-000 (o ring for alternator cap) and 11342-KS7-701 (clutch cover (Honda no longer carries this part, you will need to find it on ebay or a motorcycle salvage yard) and the clutch cover o ring part number 91311-KS7-701.

The difference between the 1985/86 from the 1987 water pump cover is the 1987 water pump cover had a removable clutch cover.

The difference between the 1989 water pump cover and the 1985, 1986, 1987 water pump cover is that there is a minor difference on how you are able to access the water pump governor. The 1989 water pump cover is also available from Honda and it is made from ALUMINUM!

The 1981 CR250 water pump covers (which are made from aluminum) will fit the 1982 and 1983 CR250's.

To sum up.
If you have a 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 Honda CR250 with a bad water pump cover, you can order directly from Honda an aluminum water pump cover from a 1989 Honda CR250.
You will also need to get a clutch cover if you have a 1985/86 CR250, which you need to find used and the alternator cap cover and ring and of course the water pump gasket (part number 11395-KS7-306).

The "orphan" water pump cover is the 1984 CR250, it apparently is a "one year only" water pump cover.


I believe for the 250 that's true, but not for the 125. I was going to buy an 85 CR125 and was looking at a 400 dollar pump cover. I seem to recall though that the 250s could be retrofitted.

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12/13/2020 8:20 PM

numbers wrote:

No

Chance1216 wrote:

Did you just throw that out there? 84 was the bastard year.
I wasn’t sure. Do your research before commenting.
Pulled this off another forum.

Yes a water pump cover from a 1989 CR250 will work on a 1985 CR250.


1989 CR250 water pump cover part number 11340-KS7-831 WILL FIT the 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 And of course the 1989 CR250's!!!

YOU WILL need to also order part number 90084-KF9-900 (alternator cap cover) and part number 91303-377-000 (o ring for alternator cap) and 11342-KS7-701 (clutch cover (Honda no longer carries this part, you will need to find it on ebay or a motorcycle salvage yard) and the clutch cover o ring part number 91311-KS7-701.

The difference between the 1985/86 from the 1987 water pump cover is the 1987 water pump cover had a removable clutch cover.

The difference between the 1989 water pump cover and the 1985, 1986, 1987 water pump cover is that there is a minor difference on how you are able to access the water pump governor. The 1989 water pump cover is also available from Honda and it is made from ALUMINUM!

The 1981 CR250 water pump covers (which are made from aluminum) will fit the 1982 and 1983 CR250's.

To sum up.
If you have a 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 Honda CR250 with a bad water pump cover, you can order directly from Honda an aluminum water pump cover from a 1989 Honda CR250.
You will also need to get a clutch cover if you have a 1985/86 CR250, which you need to find used and the alternator cap cover and ring and of course the water pump gasket (part number 11395-KS7-306).

The "orphan" water pump cover is the 1984 CR250, it apparently is a "one year only" water pump cover.


Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:

I believe for the 250 that's true, but not for the 125. I was going to buy an 85 CR125 and was looking at a 400 dollar pump cover. I seem to recall though that the 250s could be retrofitted.

Yes

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12/13/2020 8:32 PM

Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:

I believe for the 250 that's true, but not for the 125. I was going to buy an 85 CR125 and was looking at a 400 dollar pump cover. I seem to recall though that the 250s could be retrofitted.

I originally was looking for an older CR before buying my 01. After reading up for known issues regarding the water pump, I figured I’d save myself some time and go a different direction. The only issue I was having, was remembering the cut off year for the swap.

@ the OP.
You have a great opportunity. There’s a lot of people on this forum who will obviously give you some direction and help along the way. Some parts may be tough to find but, you’ll eventually find them. When your ready, start a build thread and people will help you with answers to problems you may run into.


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12/13/2020 8:34 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/13/2020 8:37 PM

Chance1216 wrote:

Did you just throw that out there? 84 was the bastard year.
I wasn’t sure. Do your research before commenting.
Pulled this off another forum.

Yes a water pump cover from a 1989 CR250 will work on a 1985 CR250.


1989 CR250 water pump cover part number 11340-KS7-831 WILL FIT the 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 And of course the 1989 CR250's!!!

YOU WILL need to also order part number 90084-KF9-900 (alternator cap cover) and part number 91303-377-000 (o ring for alternator cap) and 11342-KS7-701 (clutch cover (Honda no longer carries this part, you will need to find it on ebay or a motorcycle salvage yard) and the clutch cover o ring part number 91311-KS7-701.

The difference between the 1985/86 from the 1987 water pump cover is the 1987 water pump cover had a removable clutch cover.

The difference between the 1989 water pump cover and the 1985, 1986, 1987 water pump cover is that there is a minor difference on how you are able to access the water pump governor. The 1989 water pump cover is also available from Honda and it is made from ALUMINUM!

The 1981 CR250 water pump covers (which are made from aluminum) will fit the 1982 and 1983 CR250's.

To sum up.
If you have a 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988 Honda CR250 with a bad water pump cover, you can order directly from Honda an aluminum water pump cover from a 1989 Honda CR250.
You will also need to get a clutch cover if you have a 1985/86 CR250, which you need to find used and the alternator cap cover and ring and of course the water pump gasket (part number 11395-KS7-306).

The "orphan" water pump cover is the 1984 CR250, it apparently is a "one year only" water pump cover.


Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:

I believe for the 250 that's true, but not for the 125. I was going to buy an 85 CR125 and was looking at a 400 dollar pump cover. I seem to recall though that the 250s could be retrofitted.

numbers wrote:

Yes

Yes, your an idiot. First no, then yes. STFU.

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12/13/2020 8:38 PM

Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:

I believe for the 250 that's true, but not for the 125. I was going to buy an 85 CR125 and was looking at a 400 dollar pump cover. I seem to recall though that the 250s could be retrofitted.

numbers wrote:

Yes

Chance1216 wrote:

Yes, your an idiot. First no, then yes. STFU.

No

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