1982 FIM World Champion Danny Laporte

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10/5/2014 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2014 1:53pm
It's been confirmed (in this thread) that Lackey was crowned world champion before (although same season "1982") Danny LaPort...

The 500 class was indeed the "premiere" class in 1982 and ALL years previous. The premiere class status was undergoing a changing of the guard, so to speak, at this moment in World GP MX time however.

Brad spent 10 years in the big boy class to achieve his goal of world champ. Where all other American GP World Champions, (Trampas Parker "89" 125 and "91" 250...Donny Schmit "90" 125 and "92" 250...Bobby Moore "94" 125) won their titles when the field of "the best" riders were not all in the same class. No disrespect to them at all.

So to beat up on Ryan Hughes for his comment "no American has won on their first try" is a bit harsh to say the least. I doubt if any one else could remember World GP MX history on the fly, well enough not to make the same error.


Anyway, here's to another American World GP MX Championship, this time via Ryan Villopoto!
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10/6/2014 8:30am
Brad rented the Concord pavilion for his victory party.I snuk in and got to meet tons of my heros. Then I got busted, and Brad let me stay! Thanks CHAMP.
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10/6/2014 12:02pm
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My bad there. I do remember that year was the year that the US won the 250 & 500 Champs as well as the Trophee &...
My bad there.

I do remember that year was the year that the US won the 250 & 500 Champs as well as the Trophee & Motocross Des Nations and Bruce Penhall won the World speedway title.

I think......
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10/6/2014 12:06pm
"The 500 class was indeed the "premiere" class in 1982 and ALL years previous. "

Respectfully disagree; it ebbed and flowed in the GPs over time between the two classes once the 250 class was introduced. The 250 class in the Hallman/ Robert era was definitely a cut above in its time.

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10/6/2014 12:34pm
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys started flowing into the 250 class: Puzar, Parker, Schmit, Everts, Albertyn, Moore, Nicoll, Healey, Bervoets, Beirer, Vohland, DeMaria, etc.

Same thing happened here, only it came with the demise of the Trans-AMA Series in the late seventies, and the 250s had the platform of supercross (soon to be joined by 125s).

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10/6/2014 5:34pm
DC wrote:
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys...
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys started flowing into the 250 class: Puzar, Parker, Schmit, Everts, Albertyn, Moore, Nicoll, Healey, Bervoets, Beirer, Vohland, DeMaria, etc.

Same thing happened here, only it came with the demise of the Trans-AMA Series in the late seventies, and the 250s had the platform of supercross (soon to be joined by 125s).

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In all seriousness, would you ever bring back an open class?
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With 60 plus horsepower 450s I think the open class is alive and well.....just need to allow 300cc to 500cc two strokes in the 450 class.

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10/6/2014 11:43pm
DC wrote:
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys...
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys started flowing into the 250 class: Puzar, Parker, Schmit, Everts, Albertyn, Moore, Nicoll, Healey, Bervoets, Beirer, Vohland, DeMaria, etc.

Same thing happened here, only it came with the demise of the Trans-AMA Series in the late seventies, and the 250s had the platform of supercross (soon to be joined by 125s).

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rmpilot wrote:
In all seriousness, would you ever bring back an open class?
Already have a few - 450F GP, MX, and SX classes
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10/7/2014 12:16am Edited Date/Time 10/7/2014 12:18am
DC wrote:
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys...
To FTE's point, the 500 class also waned after 1989 or 1990 when HRC dropped its 500cc GP team (Thorpe, Geboers, Leisk) and the top guys started flowing into the 250 class: Puzar, Parker, Schmit, Everts, Albertyn, Moore, Nicoll, Healey, Bervoets, Beirer, Vohland, DeMaria, etc.

Same thing happened here, only it came with the demise of the Trans-AMA Series in the late seventies, and the 250s had the platform of supercross (soon to be joined by 125s).

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rmpilot wrote:
In all seriousness, would you ever bring back an open class?
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Already have a few - 450F GP, MX, and SX classes
Yes, the 4t handicapping classes brought back the 'big bikes' to prominence. So, we have now, "open class" bikes back in action, well, they;ve been back for quite some time.

When I hear 450s, on SX tracks regulary hitting their rev limiters - so those blokes are hitting anywhere between 10 /12,500 rpm on a bloody 450 - yikes - I really do respect the abilities / bravery of the riders

Now, pedantic pricks will say it's not an 'open class', but it's how many called the 500 class, for the most part - while it was 500cc, and no more. Be it 2t or 4t. At least in the GPs, til they 'opened' it up to 650ccc 4ts, though, that was just the MX3 class in 2003, I think. .

I'm always reluctant to even mention 500s in racing - I don't want to be associated with the drongos that think an old 500 2t will "destroy everything" (I own and ride one, so I feel free to be realistic about a near 3 decade old engine, in the case of the Honda, that is the most basic, well, primitive of things). But, I will always campaign for equivalency in classes, and a return to 125 , 250 and a 450 /500 class racing. Handicap class racing, as it stands now at the very highest of levels, is a piss poor way to go.

I've seen / read a lot of things about Ryno, that don't always leave him in a good light. But hell, most US Journalists, know buggerall about Motocross GP history, or racing outside of the US, but they regularly pontificate about it.

So, I'll choose to give Ryno the benefit of the doubt - perhaps he meant "no US rider has gone to the 500 class / MX1 / MXGP class the first year of them doing GPs, and won it"? If he meant to say that / meant it along those lines, he'd be right.

RV, may, or may not end up being the first to do so. It should be great to see him have a go at it.
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10/7/2014 8:08am
"But hell, most US Journalists, know buggerall about Motocross GP history, or racing outside of the US, but they regularly pontificate about it."

Okay, that the sort of generalization it's hard to let go, "Most?" Who?
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10/9/2014 8:46am
For crying out loud, don't even joke about stuff like that, even if you have your Jerry Lewis face on when you do it. It's hard enough telling when you're trying to be funny as it is.

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