1980 YZ250 FACTORY RACE BIKE????

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:01pm
Definitly doesn't look like your basic hopped up bike.....anyone know it it's legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-YZ-1980-YZ250-WORKS-BIKE-SIMONS-Y…
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flarider 2/3/2009 12:45pm
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Must be factory, it's on Ebay
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Highsider 2/3/2009 12:47pm
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Based on the seller's grammar and spelling, I think it may be a full-house works YZUnsure
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Lightning78 2/3/2009 12:56pm
2/3/2009 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2009 12:58pm
Look at some of the pictures ......some interesting stuff there that you can't get ...not saying it is a full on works bike but I figured with all the ex racers on here someone might know something about it.
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tydog 2/3/2009 1:14pm
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Fairly clean old bike. Definitely not factory level machine work in the clamps. Maybe entry level machinists and design skills, at best. Numerous little details and parts all over the bike lacking. I would say negative on the works machine.

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Wandell 2/3/2009 1:15pm
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No, I don't think it's a works bike. However, in 1980 that was one trick YZ!
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Void Main 2/3/2009 1:21pm
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Highsider wrote:
Based on the seller's grammar and spelling, I think it may be a full-house works YZUnsure
You have a point. His grammar is waaay too good to be a professional motocross racer. Smile
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bultokid 2/3/2009 1:22pm
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I know one thing for sure, that's not a factory silencer from that era and Team Yamaha was NOT running Simons forks on the factory bikes in 1980. Not sure which bong he fired up today but there is NO WAY in hell that '80 250 will rip a '83 CR480.
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newmann 2/3/2009 1:48pm
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Looks like a stock 80 model YZ250 with homemade triple clamps, Simon's forks and a Luft reservoir on the shock. Can't imagine going from larger diameter forks to 38mm Simon's??? Plus they almost look too short ,possibly the 9 inch travel versions when stock was over 11. No vin numbers on the frame? Sounds stolen to me at some point in it's life. If not mistaken, I think the motor and frame numbers match on the Yamaha's.
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Ozzy 2/3/2009 2:06pm
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For sure, nothing FACTORY there!Dry
Must be the owners imagination!
Just a clean '80 YZ250............Sorry! Sad
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floridaflash 2/3/2009 2:12pm
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had 2 of them, really liked them. were easy to make fast, and handled good, that is just a stock bike with a few extras, not factory, neet little tid bit, in 1980 I was working at a Yamaha dealer, orderd a stock silencer, a cylinder came in, ordered another silencer, cylinder came in, double checked the part numbers OK, so I called Yamaha parts, they messed up the part numbers, ended up with 4 cylinders for the price of a silencer
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Craze 2/3/2009 2:32pm
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stillwelding wrote:
Aren't ALL motocross bikes made in a Factory?
True story!!!!! it almost looks like one of "Radical" Ron Turner's bikes, I know he rode for Luft back in that era and was Yamaha supported,,,,But I don't think he ran Simons forks.
xnationalwrench 2/3/2009 3:01pm
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Its gotta be Factory because of the FMF stickers!! lol Ron raced something like that but several others did too. Riki Maki comes to mind and I think he used Luft also. No numbers other what was stamped by hand is scarey to say the least. I know back in the day if you broke the main case and ordered a new one there wasn't a number on it. Probably the same with the frame? Back then Yamaha give a lot support to the local pros (CMC,AME, and the rest) so it might be 1 of those bikes, no Ti hardware so not a Factory racing bike anyway.
J.Saunders144 2/3/2009 3:15pm
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haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the tracks scare me, the things look and sound like some kids metal shop project, i could see maybe using them on a track of their time but i would be afraid of folding that thing in half on a real mx track
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the...
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the tracks scare me, the things look and sound like some kids metal shop project, i could see maybe using them on a track of their time but i would be afraid of folding that thing in half on a real mx track
Actually, a "real motocross track" is what they're best suited for. No whoops, no triples, etc.
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xnationalwrench wrote:
Its gotta be Factory because of the FMF stickers!! lol Ron raced something like that but several others did too. Riki Maki comes to mind and...
Its gotta be Factory because of the FMF stickers!! lol Ron raced something like that but several others did too. Riki Maki comes to mind and I think he used Luft also. No numbers other what was stamped by hand is scarey to say the least. I know back in the day if you broke the main case and ordered a new one there wasn't a number on it. Probably the same with the frame? Back then Yamaha give a lot support to the local pros (CMC,AME, and the rest) so it might be 1 of those bikes, no Ti hardware so not a Factory racing bike anyway.
Who knows, it might be Maki's bike....Yamaha did give out tons of bike support back then. It could be a Luft shock kit or a White Bros shock.

I'll ring RM (he's living in Atlanta now) up and ask. Maybe we could also find and ask Billy Kieffer, Maki's real life midget mechanic at the time.
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trick121 2/3/2009 3:24pm
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No aluminum tank. Not factory.
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the...
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the tracks scare me, the things look and sound like some kids metal shop project, i could see maybe using them on a track of their time but i would be afraid of folding that thing in half on a real mx track
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of appreciation for it. My 23 year old has a 1980 CR125 stripped down to the frame, cases split doing a full bike overhaul and race ready resto on it. Starting to look really good plus that bike hauls ass pretty well. Bikes from 1980 and up all have as much suspension travel as the modern bikes, so many modern outdoor tracks really pose no issues. The older stuff, different story. You should try one, totally different type of fun and the competition is there as well. Also, no need for a new bike every year either, just keep it maintained. Gets addictive though.

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J.Saunders144 2/3/2009 3:31pm
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newmann wrote:
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of...
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of appreciation for it. My 23 year old has a 1980 CR125 stripped down to the frame, cases split doing a full bike overhaul and race ready resto on it. Starting to look really good plus that bike hauls ass pretty well. Bikes from 1980 and up all have as much suspension travel as the modern bikes, so many modern outdoor tracks really pose no issues. The older stuff, different story. You should try one, totally different type of fun and the competition is there as well. Also, no need for a new bike every year either, just keep it maintained. Gets addictive though.
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down to take one for a spin if i ever got the chance i just cant imagine why some people go crazy over them
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the...
haha why would you buy that thing anyways, you gonna ride it? id rather pedal a bike. the dudes who bring the vintage bikes too the tracks scare me, the things look and sound like some kids metal shop project, i could see maybe using them on a track of their time but i would be afraid of folding that thing in half on a real mx track
you being such a known badass and all on a scooter i can see why
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Sully 2/3/2009 3:35pm
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I would like to see what the inside of the engine looks like. The bike's a little too nice looking for $530.
J.Saunders144 2/3/2009 3:36pm
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BobbyM wrote:
you being such a known badass and all on a scooter i can see why
i stated this when? the more and more i observe your posts im thinking you need med's or more parental/social attention growing up
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mosslander 2/3/2009 3:41pm
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Sully wrote:
I would like to see what the inside of the engine looks like. The bike's a little too nice looking for $530.
Is the bidding over yet. You know,the right buyer the right money!
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TJorski 2/3/2009 3:46pm
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newmann wrote:
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of...
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of appreciation for it. My 23 year old has a 1980 CR125 stripped down to the frame, cases split doing a full bike overhaul and race ready resto on it. Starting to look really good plus that bike hauls ass pretty well. Bikes from 1980 and up all have as much suspension travel as the modern bikes, so many modern outdoor tracks really pose no issues. The older stuff, different story. You should try one, totally different type of fun and the competition is there as well. Also, no need for a new bike every year either, just keep it maintained. Gets addictive though.
J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down...
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down to take one for a spin if i ever got the chance i just cant imagine why some people go crazy over them
Being 19 you would not understand it took real men to ride in the early years of MX. Not like the crybabies that ride now. Lets see how fast you are on a 400CZ or a 501 Maico hotshot.
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newmann wrote:
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of...
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of appreciation for it. My 23 year old has a 1980 CR125 stripped down to the frame, cases split doing a full bike overhaul and race ready resto on it. Starting to look really good plus that bike hauls ass pretty well. Bikes from 1980 and up all have as much suspension travel as the modern bikes, so many modern outdoor tracks really pose no issues. The older stuff, different story. You should try one, totally different type of fun and the competition is there as well. Also, no need for a new bike every year either, just keep it maintained. Gets addictive though.
J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down...
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down to take one for a spin if i ever got the chance i just cant imagine why some people go crazy over them
While not as old as that Yamaha, my 87' CR500 is a blast to ride. 12" of suspension that works reasonably well, disk brakes on both ends, faster stock than a modded 450. Get the picture?
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SPARTAN 2/3/2009 4:10pm
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would look nice on my wall !
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newmann wrote:
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of...
How old are you? Ever try the vintage/evo bikes out? I've taught my sons about the whole vintage thing and they actually have a sense of appreciation for it. My 23 year old has a 1980 CR125 stripped down to the frame, cases split doing a full bike overhaul and race ready resto on it. Starting to look really good plus that bike hauls ass pretty well. Bikes from 1980 and up all have as much suspension travel as the modern bikes, so many modern outdoor tracks really pose no issues. The older stuff, different story. You should try one, totally different type of fun and the competition is there as well. Also, no need for a new bike every year either, just keep it maintained. Gets addictive though.
J.Saunders144 wrote:
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down...
haha yeah i figured that q was coming, but im 19 they just seemed like death traps from what i've seen, but id deff be down to take one for a spin if i ever got the chance i just cant imagine why some people go crazy over them
What's wrong about old bikes or was the suspension descusion to much for you.
What's wrong whith your atitude. Growing up your self boy.
xnationalwrench 2/3/2009 4:44pm
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It might be a good idea to ask Billy, he turned wrenches for several Yamaha racers from Maki, to Sue Fish and Ron Turner also.
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slomoto 2/3/2009 4:49pm
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Ive seen simons forks go for 1500 on ebay, thought about selling mine. the bike is pretty clean if your not really interested let me know, I might be.
J.Saunders144 2/3/2009 5:05pm
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mosslander wrote:
What's wrong about old bikes or was the suspension descusion to much for you.
What's wrong whith your atitude. Growing up your self boy.
attitude? don't have one? unless you automatically assumed i was using one when you read my post that was your own fault im sorry mosslander for offending.............and nothing is wrong with them i was just curious what the rage is, does everyone take their workday rage out on this thing or what?

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