18+ yz450F mobile app tuner feedback

12/4/2018 3:17pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2018 4:48am
Wanting some feedback from 18+ yz450F owners who have played around with the mobile tuner app.

I rode a "stock" 19 bike at a demo day with what I'm assuming were the stock maps.

The bike had too much power for myself personally, and quite a noticeable "hit" if you grabbed a handful.

So, in question, has anyone retarded the timing & fuel to the maximum amount and ridden their bikes? If so, how does the power delivery feel?

I had a 17 350SX-F and I enjoyed how it felt, had pretty linear power delivery. Curious if a similar feeling is capable with the yz450F and map adjustment?

Thanks!!

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12/4/2018 3:20pm
Yes, you are capable of making it even more powerful feeling or quite a bit less. That's the beauty of the tuner. You can almost literally do whatever you want with it.
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12/4/2018 3:43pm
So, to clear something up on stock, as delivered maps on new Yamahas. One has to use the app to actually upload a map when new, the dealer does not do it. The ecu is just at all zeros for fuel and ignition and linear on throttle position and rpm. The preloaded tuner maps are pretty good but there are even more to try on Yamahas website. If the bike was a handful, you can tune it down. Personally the tp 2.0 ver.3 map really works for just about anyone on the 450. With it, one can honestly ride anything in 3rd if they wanted, or go balls to the walls with power to spare.
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I have a '19 yz250f and the tuner app works excellent. I have been using the TP map from the yamaha website. Keefer has a couple maps on his site as well but I haven't tried them yet.
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I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone just to connect to it. lol Yamaha. This was cumbersome because there are no notes saying Android 8 and newer won't work, it just never connects.

Everyone I know with the 450F puts the least aggressive map on the bike & like it much more, because they can actually ride it.

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12/4/2018 8:34pm
22Ryann wrote:
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone...
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone just to connect to it. lol Yamaha. This was cumbersome because there are no notes saying Android 8 and newer won't work, it just never connects.

Everyone I know with the 450F puts the least aggressive map on the bike & like it much more, because they can actually ride it.
It connects, but you have to turn your mobile data off. If it connects to a network without internet access, it'll use the data network connection, so you can't connect to the bike. I have a pixel with Android version 9.
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^^Good to know. I have version 8 so I had no issues connecting. I will be upgrading when the s10 is available so this info will come in handy.
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22Ryann wrote:
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone...
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone just to connect to it. lol Yamaha. This was cumbersome because there are no notes saying Android 8 and newer won't work, it just never connects.

Everyone I know with the 450F puts the least aggressive map on the bike & like it much more, because they can actually ride it.
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It connects, but you have to turn your mobile data off. If it connects to a network without internet access, it'll use the data network connection...
It connects, but you have to turn your mobile data off. If it connects to a network without internet access, it'll use the data network connection, so you can't connect to the bike. I have a pixel with Android version 9.
Freaking Timo comes through with the goods, ill have to try that for sure! I have Pixel 3 and it's been shitting me to tears, did Yamaha document this? or you just stumbled across it.
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12/4/2018 10:29pm
22Ryann wrote:
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone...
I have the 250f also and love it, the app won't work on newer android phone software so I am forced to use an old phone just to connect to it. lol Yamaha. This was cumbersome because there are no notes saying Android 8 and newer won't work, it just never connects.

Everyone I know with the 450F puts the least aggressive map on the bike & like it much more, because they can actually ride it.
I have never had this problem! Used the app on my old Samsung S8 and current S9 Huh
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Lynch wrote:
I have never had this problem! Used the app on my old Samsung S8 and current S9 Huh
Yea lynch I never had it either on my S8. But then I updated it and no more connecting to bike, like you can connect to the wifi no problems but it wouldn't show any data in the app from the bike.

I assume if you update yours to the newest version you may encounter the same problems
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12/5/2018 12:45am
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Yea lynch I never had it either on my S8. But then I updated it and no more connecting to bike, like you can connect to...
Yea lynch I never had it either on my S8. But then I updated it and no more connecting to bike, like you can connect to the wifi no problems but it wouldn't show any data in the app from the bike.

I assume if you update yours to the newest version you may encounter the same problems
Weird, I used the app on both my 18 450 and 19 250 last weekend without any issues. I should have the latest version as my phone updates everything by itself. Dry
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Weird, I used the app on both my 18 450 and 19 250 last weekend without any issues. I should have the latest version as my...
Weird, I used the app on both my 18 450 and 19 250 last weekend without any issues. I should have the latest version as my phone updates everything by itself. Dry
Interesting, check the version in the settings if you get a minute.
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12/5/2018 1:24am
22Ryann wrote:
Interesting, check the version in the settings if you get a minute.
Version 1.2.0
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Lynch wrote:
Version 1.2.0
Android version Lynch.
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22Ryann wrote:
Android version Lynch.
My bad,
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My bad, [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/12/05/307619/s1200_20181205_132323.jpg[/img]
My bad,
The newest version is 9.0, I just bought my 450FX in October and my phone was already at the newest version. I work with networks a lot for work, so when it connected to the wifi but wouldn't load any data I figured it out.
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12/5/2018 5:50am
I am a 60 year old A rider (that's an oxymoron) with a 2018 YZ450F, love the stock all zero map because the bike rips but most of the time I use the mellow slippery track setting to make 4 race laps at my home track - Millville.



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Timo_2824 wrote:
The newest version is 9.0, I just bought my 450FX in October and my phone was already at the newest version. I work with networks a...
The newest version is 9.0, I just bought my 450FX in October and my phone was already at the newest version. I work with networks a lot for work, so when it connected to the wifi but wouldn't load any data I figured it out.
Sooooo how did you fix it? Don't want to have the same problem Ryan got atm.
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12/5/2018 6:47am
I have the 18 YZ450F and have used the iPhone App to mellow it out. I tried their mellow map and then made some adjustments to it so it didn't mellow it out as much in the higher RPM's. That got rid of the initial hard hit that I did not like in the stock mapping. Yes, what you are looking for can be done via the app.

You can tell a difference with the different mappings. I have gone to practice tracks, loaded one map, gone out on the track did some laps, came back to the pits and loaded a different map, and go back out there again. Did that several times until I got the map I wanted for that type of track. I could tell a difference while doing this process. If you want you could detune it throughout the whole RPM Range.
12/5/2018 7:39am
Everyone loves their phones...me too

Why isnt anyone leaving the std map and going taller on the gearing? Wider power/less shifting like an old school 3 speed as the goal

Just throwing out my 2 cents
12/5/2018 3:05pm
Appreciate everyone’s input. Sounds like what I’m searching for is accomplishable with the tuner app.
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12/5/2018 10:53pm
Lynch wrote:
Sooooo how did you fix it? Don't want to have the same problem Ryan got atm.
Turn off mobile data when you connect to the bikes wifi. Once you're finished, turn your mobile data back on.
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12/5/2018 11:07pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2018 11:08pm
Timo_2824 wrote:
Turn off mobile data when you connect to the bikes wifi. Once you're finished, turn your mobile data back on.
Thanks, my phone does that automatically when I connect to one of my bikes.
12/6/2018 1:28am
I am a 60 year old A rider (that's an oxymoron) with a 2018 YZ450F, love the stock all zero map because the bike rips but...
I am a 60 year old A rider (that's an oxymoron) with a 2018 YZ450F, love the stock all zero map because the bike rips but most of the time I use the mellow slippery track setting to make 4 race laps at my home track - Millville.



I’ve been doing exactly the same by using the mellow maps.

Have recently tried the latest TP map and did like that too. Never had any love for the previous versions that were raved about.
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Everyone loves their phones...me too Why isnt anyone leaving the std map and going taller on the gearing? Wider power/less shifting like an old school 3...
Everyone loves their phones...me too

Why isnt anyone leaving the std map and going taller on the gearing? Wider power/less shifting like an old school 3 speed as the goal

Just throwing out my 2 cents
I went to a 50 tooth rear so I could ride Millville mostly in third with a little 4th, with the stock 48 tooth it was 2nd and 3rd.

Most of the track is lugging in 3rd now vs. the stock 48 tooth would be reving too high in 2nd and too steep in 3rd.


2019 went to a 49 tooth rear.

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