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I've said it's relevant if he's lying about it. Lying about any detail really.
I cannot remember if in the interview Brennan said if his dad was with him for the meeting with Yamaha Donnie and Walker. But dad should have been there. In fact, if Im the dad in that situation, I dont even let my kid go to that meeting at all. Im shadowing him all day once the claim was made.
I step in and ask Walker (and more importantly Yamaha) what are you doing? Why do you need to speak to my kid about this? Then again, that was the kid's trainer, I assume they had a close relationship. The dad trusts Walker.
Between Haiden being allowed to roam freely and Brennan without anyone running support, the whole deal appears to be far more casual than the fallout would have us to believe.
The Shop
Unfortunately the claiming rule isnt very practical due to the culture within the sport.
I guarantee that Star will change how they prep a bike for these races going forward as will every team with essentially an unlimited budget. Good. It makes for better racing.
Other than Brennan being able to keep the bike due to the interference or coercion, this is the rule working exactly as it was supposed to work.
That's the crux of this. Why was the claim pulled? What did a Yamaha rep (Luce?), Walker, and to some effect the AMA do to coerce the claim to be dropped? With respect to the AMA, I think they are less culpable than originally perceived in all of this as I think the whole situation took them by surprise and they were being lobbied by Star and the Deegans obviously.
It is an odd detail that is both confirmed by DC's column as well as Brennan's video interview that Cotter went back to Brennan when he was pulling the claim that Cotter specifically made the statement that he wasn't trying to coerce Brennan on the claim. Why would he have to do that?
You sound like a fucking idiot here talking shit. If you actually had an ounce of credibility on this board, it’s safe to say that’s gone.
That said, it sounds like it was being handled properly as far as the established protocol was. Cotter was brought in to manage the custody. Do I think that needs to be changed in the future? Absofuckinglutely. The promoter has no business in the matter.
As time has passed and we've flushed this all out, Cotter looks like less of the POS he was labeled. Deegan didnt break any rule either.
As for comparing Star to PC or any other big budget team, let me just say this, their job is to push the envelope. And they ALL DO IT. Whether they get caught or not is another matter. We can accuse Star of mishandling how they put the fire out, but I wont pretend they were doing something other teams do not do with regards to pushing the envelope.
And its nice to see ML put in his updates too. Thanks ML512
^^^^^ I should have made two separate posts, gunna confuse the upvoters and downvoters!
SL a few posts later - "Not once have I claimed Brennan is lying"
Can you at least admit that you imply Brennan was 25% lying when you say his story is about 75% true?
Pit Row
Why should there be any drama? If there is drama, who started said drama? Answer. Brian Deegan when he decided to march his general ass in there to interrogate a minor. When he doesn’t even own the bike. If anyone needs to knock it off it’s BD. He needs to come down off his high horse.
For a few of us here, we’re interested in not rushing to judgement. For most others, my inquisitive nature is pissing them off to no end.
Simple solution? Ignore me if you think Im a liar or whatever. I’ll do fine just talking to the 4 or 5 others with a similar outlook on this debacle.
Racing Cars, Bikes, Demolition Derby, Snowboards, Sleds. Rules are in place for a reason. Why risk DQ by entering the race with a cheater? That's not how my life rolls.
He who is running a race ought to endeavor and strive to the utmost of his ability to come off victor; but it is utterly wrong for him to trip up his competitor, or to push him aside. So in life it is not unfair for one to seek for himself what may accrue to his benefit; but it is not right to take it from another. Chrysippus
Remember, SL, it’s not what a person says that matters; it’s what others hear. If you’re frequently having to redefine a position, then maybe the messaging needs improvement.
Lessons to those that got involved when they weren't stakeholders and are now being blamed for shit they didn't do.... DONT GET INVOLVED. I'm sure most are smart enough not too, which is why Brennan's story has more credibility. If the parties being named weren't on the wrong side, they would have said so by now.
Post a reply to: 13+ pages and yet nobody has asked this simple question...