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You state that many have already made up there minds. Based on your posts, so have you.
So I’d say the truth has many enemies.
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You haven’t made up your mind?
If Derek wanted the bike why wouldn’t he have just given him the money at the regionals?
How exactly is a rainbow made?
How exactly does a sun set?
How exactly does a posi-trac rear-end on a Plymouth work?
I've asked how do we know his story is factual. What evidence has he provided? Why is his word the final say on this matter?
I've also NEVER once said Yamaha was "unfairly targeted". I've asked for clarification on how he knew Yamaha Corp got involved with his sponsor. It's the one part of his interview where things stop getting clearly defined and explained. In fact, the only part that is clear is that Brennan claims that Matt Walker is on the phone texting the dealership. How does Brennan know this?
Furthermore, Brennan claims that a Yamaha Corporate employee essentially admits to him point blank with multiple witnesses that they're running a factory motor. That is incredibly hard to believe any Yamaha executive is that dumb. Yet somehow that passes the smell test to all of you guys as fact?
It raises concern. That's all I have said. I think that is hard for some to accept because they've committed so hard to one side of this debate. Whereas if it came out that Yamaha Corp was indeed got involved and Deegan crossed some boundaries and the AMA shit the bed, do you think I'd have egg on my face? Nope. I wouldnt. Because I havent made any grand judgements yet. Any version of the truth could come out and I'd be safe at this moment. Can you say the same?
Does it absolve Deegan, Star, or Yamaha? Nope.
What I think tho is that this is less one sided than most have assumed. If I had to guess I think this situation is your typical race family ankle biting nonsense.
Yamaha, Star, and MX Sports have two problems:
1) They have yet to respond and/or provide compelling evidence
2). Brennan comes across as very credible. Yes, that option is subjective, but judging by Vital’s reaction (and Cotter, Deegan, et al lack of one), the corporations behind this event need to be very, very careful in how they respond.
As it stands, one side supports the only party that has issued his version of events publicly. Sore Loser, you claim that others are telling a contradictory tale. Unless those parties identify themselves, it’s akin to not showing up to a trial. The other side wins by default. And Star and MX Sports definitely loses. And this from a huge Davey Coombs fan..
The Deegans, Star, and Yamaha were all proclaimed guilty before the trial started. Brennan shows up as you put it (nice metaphor) and boom, case closed. We dont even give the opposition a day or two to respond? This trial by public opinion is already a kangaroo court.
This is all very rushed. Which if Im thin slicing, only makes me more confident that waiting this out before passing judgement is the right move.
Kid claimed bike, paid the cash, he’ll even got the receipt, and now he doesn’t have the bike. Facts stop there. Now you can use common sense from here as to why he doesn’t have the bike. There is proof after he paid for claimed bike that he was in a room with both Tim cotter(posing as an official) and Brian Deegan for some time. He didn’t waver, not until other said events took place between Walker, Donnie, and Yamaha did he rescind… think about that, it’s not hard to decipher the truth here.
Will we know the facts that occurred by the accused, no we will not because they’re chicken shit and aren’t going to implicate themselves. But it wasn’t until he was pressured by those people from Yamaha, mx sports, walker, and Deegan was the claim rescinded. How hard is this to figure out? You think he worked for this and planned it for months only to get to the prize, successfully claim it and wake up the next day and say nah man I don’t really want it no big deal???? Really? Do you guys that believe that believe in the tooth fairy too? Again common sense is no longer a given in these times but please just try to see through the bs. Carry on
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As for the Canadian sponsor, we still dont know the details on that. Brennan claims that Matt Walker was the one in contact with the dealership. Brennan never says the dealer contacted him or any of those details. He just lists some conjecture and then states he dropped the claim to protect the dealership. He weighed out his own politics and did what he felt was best for himself. Just like everyone else involved.
I dont blame anyone for being self serving in this matter except the lazy ass AMA. And sorta MX Sports for ever allowing pros in the B class to begin with.
Unfortunately I don’t see this getting resolved, someone would need to admit they lied or acted in poor taste and pushed the boundaries of legality.
Right now all we know is the kids side of the story since he’s the only one talking. I for one believe him, at least the subject matter on how the events transpired. May be his details aren’t exactly correct but if even half of his story is truthful this isn’t a good look at all for the Deegans and everyone else. Another reason to believe him is the fact that he claimed and bike and it’s NOT in his possession. Can we both agree that’s the one indisputable fact of the story?
It’s kind of sad, I was starting to get into the Deegans and the story of Haiden coming through the ranks and building a brand around that. Now it seems cheap and dirty, may be I’m jumping the gun but this just doesn’t look good.
He didnt go into great detail on why he dropped the claim or the issues surrounding it. I find it also odd that Matt Walker was the proxy for the dealership and Brennan knew the contents of that text exchange.
We don't "factually" know if the kid is lying or fabricating part of his story or not.
We don't "factually" know if people in the Deegan camp are covering things up, lying, or innocent.
We don't "factually" know if Yamaha was actually involved or pressured the dealer/sponsor of the kid.
We don't "factually" know why the kid rescinded his claim, if he was pressured or this was a stunt.
All we "factually" know is he made a claim, had the money to do so, got a receipt, then for whatever reason pulled the claim and didn't walk away with the bike.
I just summed up your 50+ posts into one. Goddamn I'm starting to miss you making dumbass threads like "Top 5 riders you wish you could be under 23 years old who never won a title" or "Top 5 tracks you would want to ride on a Wednesday morning before 9:30am".
Yes there are always two sides to a story, BUT if Brennan’s story is not factual, why haven’t MX Sports, Brian Deegan, Matt Walker, or anyone from Yamaha or Star rapidly shot it down in flames?
Why is the reply/ defence taking so long?
That tells you all you need to know.
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