125's vs 250f's

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10/7/2010 5:28 PM

i am doing some races coming up in the next few months, and i am on a cr 125, totally stock. how much of a disadvantage is a 125 at compared to 250f's? because i am thinking of selling my 125, and saving up some extra money for a 250. either that or new exhaust for the 125. which one would be better?

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10/7/2010 5:35 PM

Whats ur height, weight, skill level? Powerwise you ll be at a disadvantage, but the 125 is so much lighter and most races are won in the turns, Both are great bikes both have pro s and cons. Whats your budget? MX is 90% rider! GOOD LUCK!

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10/7/2010 5:35 PM

It's all about the rider.

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10/7/2010 5:36 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/7/2010 5:36 PM

Pretty big disadvantage, but if you can keep the 125 singing the disadvantage is very minimal.





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10/7/2010 5:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/7/2010 5:37 PM

Get a 250f and you will never ride that 2 stroke again! I spent the last ten years riding 2 strokes and 1 lap on a thumper was all i needed to convince me. 4 $trokes rule!!!

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10/7/2010 5:38 PM

For the average rider the 250F is probably the way to go, but that's just MHO. BTW, I have a 125 and have ridden and raced one for years.


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The Josie Wales of Vitalmx

10/7/2010 5:42 PM

Race the 125. You will learn more.

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Bret Bonham

10/7/2010 5:48 PM

You have a huge advantage. Nothing is more fun than racing a 125. It took many of us years to figure this out.

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10/7/2010 6:03 PM

Mstock wrote:

You have a huge advantage. Nothing is more fun than racing a 125. It took many of us years to figure this out.

Just took me two grenaded and scorched 250F's to figure that out! The 250F was what I considered the perfect bike, somewhere between a 125 and a 250 2 stroke. But it's rather boring. Keep the 125 and keep it on the revs.

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10/7/2010 6:15 PM

i'm begginer, but i don't suck haha i clear all the jumps on the track, and keep up with most everybody on a normal day. but the races i'd be doing are indoor (i live in utah, there's gonna be a foot of snow on the ground in like a month) so tight tracks, with not very big jumps. also, should i spend the money on a neck brace, or save it for a 250f?

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10/7/2010 6:23 PM

Just dont be this guy (sorry i had to do it cool )

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10/7/2010 6:23 PM

4 strokes = boring but fast lap times and very 1 lined riding
2 stroke = FUN FUN more skill to use and very nimble and can use and change any lines on a track for very creative riding.

If it's about checkers the 4 stroke gets there 1st but if it's about FUN and EXCITEMENT and having an absolute blast 2 strokes rule the ULTIMATE PLAYBIKE 2011 yz125,
See what Jake Wiemer had to say about riding the KX125 at glen hellen he couldn't get off it and when everyone left he was still blasting around the track saying he couldn't believe how much fun they were

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10/7/2010 6:28 PM

ocscottie wrote:

Just dont be this guy (sorry i had to do it cool )

blink oh man.... hahahah i don't think i could suck that bad if i tried
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10/7/2010 6:37 PM

I have 06 cr 125 and 07 KTM 144. Both fun but the suspension on 2 strokes can't compare to the 4 stroke. I could go much faster on my 06 CRF 450 with ease. On long tracks probably 4-7 seconds slower. At sand tracks the 2 stroke is good, but everything else just harsh on the body. Go 450 if you want to compete. 2 stroke will cost less.

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10/7/2010 6:41 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/7/2010 6:41 PM

If you're racing beginner then keep the 125 for as long as you can. They will teach you a lot about carrying your speed into and out of corners. Once you can't possibly go faster on it, then move up to a 250f (around Intermediate range).

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10/7/2010 6:55 PM

robot870 wrote:

Get a 250f and you will never ride that 2 stroke again! I spent the last ten years riding 2 strokes and 1 lap on a thumper was ...more

yes, that simply sums it up.

For the average racer, you will be faster on a 250f.

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10/7/2010 7:12 PM

any recommendations on 250's? used and under 3k... haha

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10/7/2010 7:27 PM

If you are a beginner who wants to race.......I agree with the other guys who say keep it and learn...........it will teach you much more.

The real down fall to a world with no 2 strokes is kids growing up not learning the fundamentals of throttle control and using the clutch.

For us older guys, the 4 stroke is the icing on the cake of years of racing 2 strokes.

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10/8/2010 1:28 AM

Considering it's a CR125, you're already down like 10hp against 125's. At least get a YZ125 so you have a fighting chance and then hope your local track doesn't have any hills, long straights, or lots of loam.

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10/8/2010 2:02 AM

GODMODE wrote:

any recommendations on 250's? used and under 3k... haha

If you are on a budget, you dont want a 250F

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10/8/2010 2:21 AM

ocscottie wrote:

Just dont be this guy (sorry i had to do it cool )

this never gets old

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10/8/2010 6:52 PM

Definitely keep the 125 for as long as you can. Dont switch to anything bigger till you get really good at the 125. A lot of people are saying switch to the 250f when you are good enough on the 125, I would get a 250 two stroke. You can race a 250 two stroke against the 250f in the amatuers so you would be at a big advantage then.

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10/10/2010 3:14 PM

keeptwostrokesalive wrote:

Definitely keep the 125 for as long as you can. Dont switch to anything bigger till you get really good at the 125. A lot of ...more

yeah, but just local races i can't race a 250 twostroke against the other 250's...

but what about getting a new piston, putting a pipe and silencer, and maybe reeds on the 125? my dads friend that's been a dirtbike/ everything else you can think of mechanic for 20+ years says if i do all this, and let him tune it up it'll easily compete with the 250f's. what do you guys think?

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10/10/2010 3:54 PM

ocscottie wrote:

Just dont be this guy (sorry i had to do it cool )

Seen this so many times and I laugh every time. One thing I'll give him is that he crashes properly... kinda lets his body roll and doesnt get all stiff and put his hands toward the ground or anything. I made the mistake of putting my hand out once when I washed out in a corner. It was pretty embarassing because I was just cruising around. My shoulder was already weak from prior injuries, fights, and high school football (lol), but this did it in for good. Glad my health insurance covered that $70k surgery...

Anyway, stick with the 125 for budget reasons... Like others already said though, those CR's are notoriously slow. Less hp and less gears from what I remember (only 125 with 5 instead of 6 gears?). I'd get a YZ or RM... even a KX. My brother owned a KX125 and that thing was pretty fast, good stock suspension to.

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James

10/10/2010 3:57 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/10/2010 4:01 PM

keeptwostrokesalive wrote:

Definitely keep the 125 for as long as you can. Dont switch to anything bigger till you get really good at the 125. A lot of ...more

GODMODE wrote:

yeah, but just local races i can't race a 250 twostroke against the other 250's...

but what about getting a new piston, ...more

I can't imagine what amount of tuning would give the 125 the same hp and power spread of a 250f... it just isn't possible.

Still, I'd stick with the 125 till you're at a more intermediate level then get yourself a 250f (if you've got the budget to keep it running). If you don't have the budget at that point, get a 250 2 stroke and move up to the 450 (250 2 stroke) novice class.

EDIT: Forgot to add, yeah a lot of local tracks don't allow 250 2 strokes in the 250f class... This is only at AMA events I believe... and whoever else feels like running their track that way.

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James

10/10/2010 5:13 PM

say i could get a used 250f for 2600, year 06 or 07, would any of these bikes be decent? i know my buddy who has a yzf 250 from 07 loves his haha..

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10/10/2010 5:20 PM

That is a pretty good deal, but the question is do you have enough money in the long haul if something bad goes wrong with the 250f. Four strokes are great bikes if you keep up with them and maintain them properly. I still think you should stick with the 125 for a little while longer than get a 250 twostroke. I switched from a yz125 to a kx250 two stroke and i will never go back. The 250 two stroke is fun and has plenty of power.

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10/10/2010 5:48 PM

GODMODE wrote:

i'm begginer, but i don't suck haha i clear all the jumps on the track, and keep up with most everybody on a normal day. but ...more

NECK BRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are just a beginner and if you jump on a 250f it will be easy for you to go much faster, beyond your skills at times, Get a
neck Brace FIRST. and NOW! before your next ride! GOT IT?????

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10/10/2010 5:52 PM

GODMODE wrote:

i'm begginer, but i don't suck haha i clear all the jumps on the track, and keep up with most everybody on a normal day. but ...more

Karma wrote:

NECK BRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are just a beginner and if you jump on a 250f it will be easy for you to ...more

haha k i gotta plan. i'm actually buying a neck brace this week, (not due to this post, i got wadded up when some tool T-boned me out of an outside line yesterday, and tweaked my neck, so i decided on a brace) and thenn, i gotta stop being a lazyass 16 yr old, and go get a job, then i can buy a 250 within 3 or 4 months easy (: (if i sell my bike)

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10/10/2010 6:07 PM

pro circuit pipe and silencer, also a moto tassinari reed cage system to put in your bike.

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