125 all star races rules and eligibility questions

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4/26/2020 12:02 PM

Picking up a 2020 tm 144mx and I was debating on trying to do some of the all star races .

Question 1.) I remember Pingree and Albertson running the tm144mx in there but didn’t know if they allow it to joe blow.

Question 2.) I heard 2020 is by invitation only any truth to this?

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4/26/2020 12:43 PM

Yes it is by invitation but signing up early could help your chances. As far as having a big bore like a 144, ehhh I'm not so sure. Didn't Durham ride a big bore cr and get DQ ? As far as I know bikes like tm 144, ktm/hsq 150 and big bores in general not allowed but maybe someone else that knows for a fact can clarify. Id like to know as well cause I would like to do the Southwick and unadilla rounds and if it's allowed my tc125 will be a 150 instead. Need all the extra juice I can get lol

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4/26/2020 1:04 PM

I don’t know whether or not they’re eligible but I think it’s smart to buy the bike for the other 97% of the time that you’ll be riding it. Would be fun to do a couple all star races, but it’d be WAY more fun to ride the bike you want the majority of the time

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4/26/2020 1:16 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Yes it is by invitation but signing up early could help your chances. As far as having a big bore like a 144, ehhh I'm not so sure. Didn't Durham ride a big bore cr and get DQ ? As far as I know bikes like tm 144, ktm/hsq 150 and big bores in general not allowed but maybe someone else that knows for a fact can clarify. Id like to know as well cause I would like to do the Southwick and unadilla rounds and if it's allowed my tc125 will be a 150 instead. Need all the extra juice I can get lol

Yea he got dq at budds creek.

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4/26/2020 1:17 PM

observeroffacts wrote:

I don’t know whether or not they’re eligible but I think it’s smart to buy the bike for the other 97% of the time that you’ll be riding it. Would be fun to do a couple all star races, but it’d be WAY more fun to ride the bike you want the majority of the time

I agree that’s why I bought the 144 instead be more fun and more competitive everywhere else not worth to me to buy 125 only for possibility of racing 1-2 all star races

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4/26/2020 1:17 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Yes it is by invitation but signing up early could help your chances. As far as having a big bore like a 144, ehhh I'm not so sure. Didn't Durham ride a big bore cr and get DQ ? As far as I know bikes like tm 144, ktm/hsq 150 and big bores in general not allowed but maybe someone else that knows for a fact can clarify. Id like to know as well cause I would like to do the Southwick and unadilla rounds and if it's allowed my tc125 will be a 150 instead. Need all the extra juice I can get lol

mxb2 wrote:

Yea he got dq at budds creek.

Dang

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4/26/2020 1:18 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Yes it is by invitation but signing up early could help your chances. As far as having a big bore like a 144, ehhh I'm not so sure. Didn't Durham ride a big bore cr and get DQ ? As far as I know bikes like tm 144, ktm/hsq 150 and big bores in general not allowed but maybe someone else that knows for a fact can clarify. Id like to know as well cause I would like to do the Southwick and unadilla rounds and if it's allowed my tc125 will be a 150 instead. Need all the extra juice I can get lol

Looks like it is not legal to race the 144 since Durham got dq’d ah well just have to race it everywhere else then

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4/26/2020 1:20 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Yes it is by invitation but signing up early could help your chances. As far as having a big bore like a 144, ehhh I'm not so sure. Didn't Durham ride a big bore cr and get DQ ? As far as I know bikes like tm 144, ktm/hsq 150 and big bores in general not allowed but maybe someone else that knows for a fact can clarify. Id like to know as well cause I would like to do the Southwick and unadilla rounds and if it's allowed my tc125 will be a 150 instead. Need all the extra juice I can get lol

werner822 wrote:

Looks like it is not legal to race the 144 since Durham got dq’d ah well just have to race it everywhere else then

Correct.

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4/26/2020 6:00 PM

You can pick a 134 out of pack of true 125,s. A 144 would get busted quick. Ping raced a 144 at the Dream race. Albertson was on a 125. Do they tear down the top 5 or anyone who does not sound legal ? A 2mm stoker crank would be less noticeable sounding. 1mm up 1 mm down. They bark harder threw the mid tho.

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4/26/2020 6:14 PM

They probably don't do checks before the race.
So 2 scenarios.
if you think you are going to finish mid pack then you probably won't get pulled for tear down.
And if you do get pulled and DQ who cares? You raced was part of a national and had fun and that's the goal. so what if you get DQ the results don't go down on paper.

I'd say buy the 144 since you plan to ride it more than just this race

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4/26/2020 6:51 PM

Zesiger 112 wrote:

They probably don't do checks before the race.
So 2 scenarios.
if you think you are going to finish mid pack then you probably won't get pulled for tear down.
And if you do get pulled and DQ who cares? You raced was part of a national and had fun and that's the goal. so what if you get DQ the results don't go down on paper.

I'd say buy the 144 since you plan to ride it more than just this race

Haha I would be a mid pack rider way too out of riding shape to be anywhere near the front just thought it be cool like you said I could sign up for it atleast practice on Friday if I get questioned and they inspect it oh well but regardless I’m going 144 and send it lol

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4/26/2020 6:52 PM

profeshenal125 wrote:

You can pick a 134 out of pack of true 125,s. A 144 would get busted quick. Ping raced a 144 at the Dream race. Albertson was on a 125. Do they tear down the top 5 or anyone who does not sound legal ? A 2mm stoker crank would be less noticeable sounding. 1mm up 1 mm down. They bark harder threw the mid tho.

A 144 does have a throaty sound I make sure I have fresh packing In silencer lol , but your rights at least get to practice Friday be super fun enjoy it while I can.

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4/26/2020 8:52 PM

Technically, supposed to be 125’s. The rules were super loose the first year and have been tightening up. But, like somebody mentioned, you aren’t going to get hassled unless you’re up front. It’s been first come, first served, as far as entries go, though there are some requirements. And they save 10-12 spots for last-minute guest riders like RV, Brownie, Durham, Ryno, etc. These are super fun and I recommend doing one if you can. I wouldn’t sweat the details buddy... there’s no money or points on the line. It’s all about the experience.

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4/26/2020 9:11 PM

I would Like to run a 04 chassis with a 06 engine. Need to peel the 04 decal off the frame. Swing arm is more square and beefy, Than a 05-07. Not a lot of CR 125 in the races. They would probably let it slide. I know the rule is last 3 yrs of bike that was made.

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4/27/2020 12:49 AM

I don't think it is invitation only this year, it hasn't been up to now.
The requirements are that you must be a B grade rider or above and then just a current model 125 or the last 3 years of bikes that are no longer in production.

I plan on doing Pala in Sept if I can fly back to the U.S.
And definitely a few of the rounds next year. I think it would be an amazing experience to race on national tracks and potentially line up with some legends of the sport!

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4/27/2020 1:44 AM

Would be fun to see a split start 20 125's and 10sec later 20 "open class" 2strokes with an extra bag of nothing if the open rider takes first.

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4/27/2020 6:12 AM

dpingree101 wrote:

Technically, supposed to be 125’s. The rules were super loose the first year and have been tightening up. But, like somebody mentioned, you aren’t going to get hassled unless you’re up front. It’s been first come, first served, as far as entries go, though there are some requirements. And they save 10-12 spots for last-minute guest riders like RV, Brownie, Durham, Ryno, etc. These are super fun and I recommend doing one if you can. I wouldn’t sweat the details buddy... there’s no money or points on the line. It’s all about the experience.

Hey David ! Thanks for the insight and I completely agree all about the experience!

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4/27/2020 6:14 AM

profeshenal125 wrote:

I would Like to run a 04 chassis with a 06 engine. Need to peel the 04 decal off the frame. Swing arm is more square and beefy, Than a 05-07. Not a lot of CR 125 in the races. They would probably let it slide. I know the rule is last 3 yrs of bike that was made.

Peel the sticker off and you should be good less Cr’s like you said if your bike looks cool they most likely won’t care about a year lol

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4/27/2020 6:15 AM

kieran_macca wrote:

I don't think it is invitation only this year, it hasn't been up to now.
The requirements are that you must be a B grade rider or above and then just a current model 125 or the last 3 years of bikes that are no longer in production.

I plan on doing Pala in Sept if I can fly back to the U.S.
And definitely a few of the rounds next year. I think it would be an amazing experience to race on national tracks and potentially line up with some legends of the sport!

I agree with you there and the sweet sound of a bunch of 125’s !

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4/27/2020 6:16 AM

KMC440 wrote:

Would be fun to see a split start 20 125's and 10sec later 20 "open class" 2strokes with an extra bag of nothing if the open rider takes first.

That would be very cool ! Or just make time for their own seperate race either way be awesome to see.

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4/27/2020 2:00 PM

We've done this the last two years at Washougal. Rather disorganized since Joey no longer running it so can't imagine how you would get protested or torn down unless someone had a grudge & knew for sure? They are definitely fun & a great experience though. Would be nice if they at least enforced the B class or above rule though. My kid got taken out in first turn of Heat 1 by a rider who was barely C level. Still qualified directly & finished 5th in main but made for an unnecessary stressful day. Both my boys will be signed up for this years now that youngest is old enough for some sibling rivalry..........

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4/27/2020 7:08 PM

I say double row start, with 80 on the gate.
Millville 97 had 1,384 amateur riders signed up, not including late sign ups. Practice was super crazy, with most trying to win it or take someone out. Sneaking out for more practice etc. Anyone ever run that VP mxro2 fuel 172.00 for 5 gal ouch. Notice any gain over c-12 ?

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4/27/2020 7:37 PM

profeshenal125 wrote:

I say double row start, with 80 on the gate.
Millville 97 had 1,384 amateur riders signed up, not including late sign ups. Practice was super crazy, with most trying to win it or take someone out. Sneaking out for more practice etc. Anyone ever run that VP mxro2 fuel 172.00 for 5 gal ouch. Notice any gain over c-12 ?

That would be one crazy race lol and yes I ran that in my 05 rm 250 amazing fuel flat out rips but don’t keep it in the carb , and it smells stupidly strong from 10-20ft away smells like a supercross stadium but up close it’s strong.

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4/27/2020 7:38 PM

Tracktor wrote:

We've done this the last two years at Washougal. Rather disorganized since Joey no longer running it so can't imagine how you would get protested or torn down unless someone had a grudge & knew for sure? They are definitely fun & a great experience though. Would be nice if they at least enforced the B class or above rule though. My kid got taken out in first turn of Heat 1 by a rider who was barely C level. Still qualified directly & finished 5th in main but made for an unnecessary stressful day. Both my boys will be signed up for this years now that youngest is old enough for some sibling rivalry..........

Yeah I agree on keeping it all advanced riders and not having c riders about crashing people

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4/27/2020 10:02 PM

KMC440 wrote:

Would be fun to see a split start 20 125's and 10sec later 20 "open class" 2strokes with an extra bag of nothing if the open rider takes first.

Just run practice on your Cr125 then show up on the gate with your Cr500

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