$10,000 Pro purse at Desoto MX

7/2/2021 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 7/6/2021 9:35pm
$10,000 Pro purse here at Desoto MX in Louisiana this weekend. So far it looks like John Short will be the man to beat.
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7/2/2021 3:04pm
I've always wondered about these races.. is this 10k split between 20 riders??

Or the winner gets 10k and it $$ goes down from there??
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7/2/2021 3:10pm
Motodave15 wrote:
I've always wondered about these races.. is this 10k split between 20 riders??

Or the winner gets 10k and it $$ goes down from there??
It’s the pure for 250 pro and 450 pro combined. I think winner gets like $2100 or so
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7/2/2021 3:43pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2021 4:21pm
We need a lot more races like this


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7/2/2021 3:57pm
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show.

What's up with free entries? Tell us more about this track?
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7/2/2021 4:13pm
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show. What's up with free entries? Tell us...
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show.

What's up with free entries? Tell us more about this track?
It’s a fun track. World champ Trampus Parkers son Ricky Parker owns the track. As you can imagine it’s got a euro flair to it IMO. Great dirt and track flows really well. Ricky does a lot of great things for our state. Puts in multiple series.
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7/2/2021 4:13pm
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show. What's up with free entries? Tell us...
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show.

What's up with free entries? Tell us more about this track?
The free entry thing was from monster entergy. They sponsored the event and allowed us to race two classes for free.
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7/2/2021 4:44pm
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show. What's up with free entries? Tell us...
Very curious, hope we hear about results. I would think any local pro's not at Red Bud would show.

What's up with free entries? Tell us more about this track?
It’s a fun track. World champ Trampus Parkers son Ricky Parker owns the track. As you can imagine it’s got a euro flair to it IMO...
It’s a fun track. World champ Trampus Parkers son Ricky Parker owns the track. As you can imagine it’s got a euro flair to it IMO. Great dirt and track flows really well. Ricky does a lot of great things for our state. Puts in multiple series.
Having watched Chad roosting Rio Bravo and Conroe in the 80's, hearing about his son running tracks makes me feel damn old! Post up some video of the race if you can.
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7/2/2021 5:53pm
I know several top Texas pros that are at Red Bud this weekend. That definitely opens the door for some other riders to pick up some cash this weekend.
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7/3/2021 9:48am
Was talking with a younger rider about this recently. It's a foreign concept these days, but back in the day, local pros could actually make a living just riding dirt bikes on the weekend. I remember standing line to pick up my little plastic trophies while the top three were getting pretty decent envelopes, and that was just the regular saturday night races, not even a state/regional series race.
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7/3/2021 9:59am
I was really looking forward to this race before I broke my leg.

Making money racing>racing nationals
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7/3/2021 10:02am
The track is awesome! We would be there if I didn’t have plans for July 4th. I hope they have it next year.
7/3/2021 10:33am
7 in 250
11 in 450

Should be 25 in each. I’m disappointed in the next gen of A riders. I’m getting old.
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7/3/2021 12:02pm
Live timing at www.escoremx.com

250 PRO moto 1
Pos Nbr Racer Hometown Brand Lap Laptime Gap
1st #x FLOYD, Ryder Paris, TX Yamaha 10 02:01.806 --.---
2nd #55 SHORT, John Pilot Point, TX Honda 10 01:58.619 00:15.244
3rd #973 BARR, Jon Murray Glen Allan, MS Yamaha 10 02:00.223 00:42.933
4th #38 MUNSON, Rylan Oxford, FL Kawasaki 10 01:58.983 00:11.295
5th #725 MURPHY, John Lafayette, LA KTM 10 02:16.067 00:26.249
6th #628 FELIX, Joshua Arabi, LA Yamaha 9 02:23.494 02:59.606
7th #64 IGO, Nichols Brooklyn, MS Honda 3 01:56.881 00:03.402
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7/3/2021 2:28pm Edited Date/Time 7/3/2021 2:33pm
450 PRO - Moto 1 Finish Positions


Nbr Name
1 - #55 Honda JOHN SHORT PILOT POINT, TX
2- #x Yamaha RYDER FLOYD PARIS, TX
3- #118 Gas CHEYENNE HARMON ROANOKE, TX
4- #157 KTM JACOB BAUMERT BUCKNER, KY
5- #973 Yamaha JON MURRAY BARR GLEN ALLAN, MS
6- #501 Kawasaki SCOTTY WENNERSTROM JEFFERSON, TX
-7 #38 Kawasaki RYLAN MUNSON OXFORD, FL
8- #725 KTM JOHN MURPHY LAFAYETTE, LA
9- #11 Yamaha SETH UNDERWOOD SULPHUR SPRINGS, LA
dns #288 Yamaha JUSTIN DAVIS CHATOM, AL
dns #64 Honda NICHOLS IGO BROOKLYN, MS
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7/3/2021 2:43pm Edited Date/Time 7/3/2021 2:45pm
Do pros still race both classes at these things? I see a few but it used to be the way to go.
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7/4/2021 8:57am
GabeM wrote:
Do pros still race both classes at these things? I see a few but it used to be the way to go.
There are a lot of guys that can’t afford two $9k motorcycles. It’s tough for A riders because

1. One 250f gets roached quick but you can race both classes
2. One 250 two stroke is solid but disadvantaged in the start against both 4 strokes
3. One 450 lasts all year but you can only race one class.

Pick your poison. There is no perfect choice.
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7/4/2021 8:59am
GabeM wrote:
Do pros still race both classes at these things? I see a few but it used to be the way to go.
There are a lot of guys that can’t afford two $9k motorcycles. It’s tough for A riders because 1. One 250f gets roached quick but you...
There are a lot of guys that can’t afford two $9k motorcycles. It’s tough for A riders because

1. One 250f gets roached quick but you can race both classes
2. One 250 two stroke is solid but disadvantaged in the start against both 4 strokes
3. One 450 lasts all year but you can only race one class.

Pick your poison. There is no perfect choice.
One Pro class is plenty with the amount of entries they have these days.
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7/4/2021 9:11am
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just the way it is round here.
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7/4/2021 9:16am
peltier626 wrote:
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just...
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just the way it is round here.
Until formats change it will be the same. Why pay more, and wait more, to ride around by yourself just like practice. WAY TOO MANY CLASSES and gate drops. And having spectators watch from a 1/2 mile away...
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7/4/2021 1:01pm
250 PRO - Overall

Overall Nbr Name Moto 1 Moto 2
1st #55 Honda JOHN SHORT
PILOT POINT, TX 2nd 1st
2nd #x Yamaha RYDER FLOYD
PARIS, TX 1st 2nd
3rd #973 Yamaha JON MURRAY BARR
GLEN ALLAN, MS 3rd 3rd
4th #38 Kawasaki RYLAN MUNSON
OXFORD, FL 4th 4th
5th #725 KTM JOHNNY MURPHY
LAFAYETTE, LA 5th 5th
6th #628 Yamaha JOSHUA FELIX
ARABI, LA 6th 6th
7th #64 Honda NICHOLS IGO
BROOKLYN, MS 7th DNS
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7/4/2021 1:45pm
450 PRO - Overall Finish

Overall Nbr Name Moto 1 Moto 2
1st #55 Honda JOHN SHORT
PILOT POINT, TX 1st 1st
2nd #x Yamaha RYDER FLOYD
PARIS, TX 2nd 3rd
3rd #157 KTM JACOB BAUMERT
BUCKNER, KY 4th 2nd
4th #118 Unknown CHEYENNE HARMON
ROANOKE, TX 3rd 4th
5th #973 Yamaha JON MURRAY BARR
GLEN ALLAN, MS 5th 5th
6th #38 Kawasaki RYLAN MUNSON
OXFORD, FL 7th 6th
7th #501 Kawasaki SCOTTY WENNERSTROM
JEFFERSON, TX 6th 7th
8th #725 KTM JOHNNY MURPHY
LAFAYETTE, LA 8th DNS
9th #11 Yamaha SETH UNDERWOOD
SULPHUR SPRINGS, LA 9th DNS
DNS #288 Yamaha JUSTIN DAVIS
CHATOM, AL DNS DNS
DNS #64 Honda NICHOLS IGO
BROOKLYN, MS DNS DNS
DNS #59 Yamaha JASON LEJEUNE
NEW IBERIA, LA DNS DNS
7/4/2021 4:04pm
peltier626 wrote:
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just...
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just the way it is round here.
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a race.
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7/4/2021 4:41pm Edited Date/Time 7/5/2021 3:46am
peltier626 wrote:
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just...
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just the way it is round here.
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a...
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a race.
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood 1 and 2, Amite 1 and 2, Hammond, Avondale, Z-Man, High Rollers and Rivers Edge, Arcola, Gatorland, Bayouland. Not until just recently have the turnouts at races exceeded 200 per, for the last 10+ years turnouts at the races have been very low. Not since the winter series that the Burgerses were hosting have the numbers been what they are presently. It's a fact that the total amount of practice riders on any given weekend far exceeds what any race draws but i do agree that as of late it has been trending upwards. Their are a few promotors that are gaining traction and it looks promising. But I'm pretty certian the majority of Louisiana riders are Professional Practicers.
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This is just my opinion, but the last race at hammond ran a very successful format that gave every rider 2 twenty min practice sessions and one 10-15 min moto depending on class. Everyone had a about an hr of seat time and we were home before 4pm.
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peltier626 wrote:
This is just my opinion, but the last race at hammond ran a very successful format that gave every rider 2 twenty min practice sessions and...
This is just my opinion, but the last race at hammond ran a very successful format that gave every rider 2 twenty min practice sessions and one 10-15 min moto depending on class. Everyone had a about an hr of seat time and we were home before 4pm.
1 moto? Unless the track is very mild, most riders are toasted by 4 laps. 3 moto’s solves that issue while adding seat time but lengthening the day.
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I love seeing these type races happen.

Myself and a couple other business owners have discussed putting a race on with this type payout or higher. Have a race at Sandy Oaks in Keithsburg, IL where they held a national back in the 70’s. Would be a test of anyone’s endurance.
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7/4/2021 9:12pm
peltier626 wrote:
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just...
Folks aren't worried about that purse, we're riding for the fun of it. There are more entries on practice days than at most races. It's just the way it is round here.
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a...
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a race.
peltier626 wrote:
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood...
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood 1 and 2, Amite 1 and 2, Hammond, Avondale, Z-Man, High Rollers and Rivers Edge, Arcola, Gatorland, Bayouland. Not until just recently have the turnouts at races exceeded 200 per, for the last 10+ years turnouts at the races have been very low. Not since the winter series that the Burgerses were hosting have the numbers been what they are presently. It's a fact that the total amount of practice riders on any given weekend far exceeds what any race draws but i do agree that as of late it has been trending upwards. Their are a few promotors that are gaining traction and it looks promising. But I'm pretty certian the majority of Louisiana riders are Professional Practicers.
We aren’t getting 200 bikes a day at practice. That’s a fact and I “literally” didn’t look at your profile. Just wanted
To mention your comment was incorrect. Who cares about ten years ago.
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Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a...
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a race.
peltier626 wrote:
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood...
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood 1 and 2, Amite 1 and 2, Hammond, Avondale, Z-Man, High Rollers and Rivers Edge, Arcola, Gatorland, Bayouland. Not until just recently have the turnouts at races exceeded 200 per, for the last 10+ years turnouts at the races have been very low. Not since the winter series that the Burgerses were hosting have the numbers been what they are presently. It's a fact that the total amount of practice riders on any given weekend far exceeds what any race draws but i do agree that as of late it has been trending upwards. Their are a few promotors that are gaining traction and it looks promising. But I'm pretty certian the majority of Louisiana riders are Professional Practicers.
We aren’t getting 200 bikes a day at practice. That’s a fact and I “literally” didn’t look at your profile. Just wanted To mention your comment...
We aren’t getting 200 bikes a day at practice. That’s a fact and I “literally” didn’t look at your profile. Just wanted
To mention your comment was incorrect. Who cares about ten years ago.
Who dis? Scott, Corey, Hoot, Marino???
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7/5/2021 3:45am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2021 8:42am
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a...
Where you from? In Louisiana most races get over 200 entries and desoto had over 300 earlier this year. Way more people show up for a race.
peltier626 wrote:
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood...
Thibodaux. It literally states it next to my profile. I ride have ridden all the local tracks for over 20 years, New Iberia, Breaux Bridge, Kentwood 1 and 2, Amite 1 and 2, Hammond, Avondale, Z-Man, High Rollers and Rivers Edge, Arcola, Gatorland, Bayouland. Not until just recently have the turnouts at races exceeded 200 per, for the last 10+ years turnouts at the races have been very low. Not since the winter series that the Burgerses were hosting have the numbers been what they are presently. It's a fact that the total amount of practice riders on any given weekend far exceeds what any race draws but i do agree that as of late it has been trending upwards. Their are a few promotors that are gaining traction and it looks promising. But I'm pretty certian the majority of Louisiana riders are Professional Practicers.
We aren’t getting 200 bikes a day at practice. That’s a fact and I “literally” didn’t look at your profile. Just wanted To mention your comment...
We aren’t getting 200 bikes a day at practice. That’s a fact and I “literally” didn’t look at your profile. Just wanted
To mention your comment was incorrect. Who cares about ten years ago.
No need to look up profile, just look to the left under the picture. Not sure how it comes across on a phone but on a computer it shows the location of user. Your's states Denham. On any given weekend there are more riders practicing at Louisiana tracks than at a race. Most tracks average between 60-100 riders on any given day with 3-5 tracks operating at the same time. 300+ is rare for a race around here but a step in the right direction.
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