1998 CR125 (One of the Most hated 125's) The Re Rebuild/ First start/Video Added

BenG
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The head was ok but everything else being new I just got a new one too.

BenG
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It’s kinda funny ppl always talk about bad bikes or good bikes but if it was not for the magizines and reviews from ppl would most...
It’s kinda funny ppl always talk about bad bikes or good bikes but if it was not for the magizines and reviews from ppl would most ppl even know that the bike is bad?

Great build. Awesome it is going back together.
When we first got the bike it was for my son I never rode it back then. This time I built it for me, but he shows up for 2 weeks leave from the Navy the day I finished it. So I let him ride it and it blew up after 2 hours. I'm ready to finish it so I can finally ride it for myself. I have no idea how it rides other than he really liked it.
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This was on back order for about 3 weeks, started thinking it wasn't going to show.
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New return springs and collar for kick start.

New water pump and rebuilt all seals and bearings.

Couple minor items.


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3/30/2018 1:10pm
What a cool build. Can't wait to see it back together.

Also to your son, thanks for his service.
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BenG
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What a cool build. Can't wait to see it back together.

Also to your son, thanks for his service.
Thanks, I'll pass it on to him.
BenG
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I rebuilt the carb a few month's ago but took it apart again for cleaning.


Original parts that came out.

Seal from the air screw and the tool I used to get it out. It was hard as a rock make sure to ck on these old carbs.


Mostly all new except float and seat.


All done, these carbs are so simple to build.

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I'm building a 139 99 model. Your bike looks great, I love the first gen alloys.
Did you weigh that piston by any chance?

Good tip on the airscrew oring. I'll check mine as I did a rebuild but don't recall the condition if it. People say the pj carb doesn't idle, how did you go with it? I'm boring mine to 38mm.
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Jrewing wrote:
I'm building a 139 99 model. Your bike looks great, I love the first gen alloys. Did you weigh that piston by any chance? Good tip...
I'm building a 139 99 model. Your bike looks great, I love the first gen alloys.
Did you weigh that piston by any chance?

Good tip on the airscrew oring. I'll check mine as I did a rebuild but don't recall the condition if it. People say the pj carb doesn't idle, how did you go with it? I'm boring mine to 38mm.
No Sir I didn't weigh the piston. I found the new Elite piston to be interesting because of the newest technology and materials Wiseco used to build it. The rings are even new matching material with this piston.

When I first built the carb the air screw o'ring didn't even come out it was stuck in there, that thing is tiny. Once out you can see the condition it was in.

I had to order the whole air screw set to get the o'ring because I could not just find the o'ring by itself. It idled ok at first but was not consistent, so I ordered the choke/idle screw assembly, then it was perfect.

Thanks for the comments.
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A few tools I purchased for this build.

This was probably my favorite and most useful one. Worked great on the clutch basket, primary gear and the flywheel.

Came with the spline drive for my Excel spokes.



Used this and a propane torch for the bearings. When putting the bearings in the dry ice they almost made a screaming noise, so weird.
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My favourite tool so far has been blind bearing puller. Seeing every bearing has been replaced it's payed itself off plenty. I'm at assembly stage for the engine bearings and hot cold works a treat.
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Jrewing wrote:
My favourite tool so far has been blind bearing puller. Seeing every bearing has been replaced it's payed itself off plenty. I'm at assembly stage for...
My favourite tool so far has been blind bearing puller. Seeing every bearing has been replaced it's payed itself off plenty. I'm at assembly stage for the engine bearings and hot cold works a treat.
Unfortunately on this build I had no use for any bearing puller. There was nothing left of either case lol. The dry ice helped but they didn't just drop in, I used a bearing installer to knock them in. However is was fairly easy. This was on the main bearings all the smaller trans bearings pretty much did just drop in.
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4/1/2018 9:17pm
Must have's

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Ok I had another hiccup last week. I had wrapped this motor up and rolled it outside to fire it up.

Filled up with all fluids and fresh gas mixed with 927. When it fired right away something didn't feel right. Kinda hard to explain but it had a drag to it, it wasn't free wheeling so to speak. Wouldn't idle but would rev up but it was struggling,fighting itself. Just felt really tight, but figured everything was brand new and thought it would loosen up.

After a few minutes and a couple of starts I rode it down the street to a friends house hoping it was going to loosen up but it felt like it seized. Just bogging down and I shut it off, went back got my truck and brought it home.Later that day the guy that has been helping me build it came over and it started up but still acting the same way.

Put in a call to my local race shop I have been using for years and talked to the top guy there. He said only 2 things would do what I was describing, crank not centered or something with the clutch. What sucks is some time during this whole deal he told me to make sure I centered the crank with feeler gauges.

Here's why, I had him look at my cases and this had happened at some point of this bikes life. Crank rubbing on the case. These pictures are after it blew up but these marks were there before this time. He said every bottom end they build they break out the feeler gauges to ck.

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Not convinced I really thought it seized up. Man was I nervous, I took the top end back off to find everything still looked brand new, no marks on the piston or cylinder. That mark on the piston is just a smudge from touching it.

Here's the bottom view and you can see the stater side has a larger gap. Feeler gauge showed 23 thousands larger gap on that side.

I had to take the clutch apart to be able to knock the crank over 11.5 thousands. Clutch was put together correct so that was good. It took a couple hard knocks with a small sledge and a 2x6 but came out perfect.
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Glad you saved it you will know how that motor goes back together soon !
BenG
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I should be firing it back up tomorrow, fingers crossed.
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I'm learning here!! On the cr's Facebook page they have manuals on file. I'll need it for the box build
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New top end gasket set in so back to work.




I rebuilt the power valve with what new parts were available, new bearing, seals and a couple of holders. Cleaned the carbon off with oven cleaner.

Think I'm going to order that little clip it seems a little loose.
BenG
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Motor complete again.

Added some grip tape.

BenG
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This is where I'm at, Just need the tank, pipe and plastics. It was cold and raining so I wasn't motivated to finish today.
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FMF goes through all the trouble to build the pipe to flow for a certain power curve, then turns it over and whacks it with a hammer for clearance of the radiator.


Guess it was this guy.
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Back together
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Fantastic, looking forward to ride report - just don’t let son near itWoohoo
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Back outside in the starting area lol.

Need some fluids.


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What a rollercoaster this thread is!! Know all the hard work you have done that doesn't get posted. Good job BTW, never submit
BenG
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Markee wrote:
What a rollercoaster this thread is!! Know all the hard work you have done that doesn't get posted. Good job BTW, never submit
Definitely been some ups and downs. It was gut wrenching when the motor blew after the first build, then the hiccup from last week, however now that I have a practically brand new motor, I'm in a better place.
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Ok on to the start up which I gotta say I was pretty nervous and excited at the same time. Even though I found the crank to be quite a bit off center I have been skeptical that was the problem. Going to try to load a video.
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shuggs wrote:
Fantastic, looking forward to ride report - just don’t let son near itWoohoo
Son's coming back home next month, so I got time to break it in and ride it myself lol.

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