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I've just done the first re-bore on mine, after 15 years of riding it , over 27,000 ks(it's registered / plated, but it's 98% dirt) and somewhere over 1400 hrs. Off course, I've run through it , I think, 5 std pistons - as I had stds left over from previous 500s, and friends donated their left overs. I could have put in an .25mm OEM piston, but one wasn't currently available. So, I had to "waste" a bore and go to a .5mm over bore.
Out of guilt, prior to the top end pull down, I also purchased a Wossner rod kit (std cranks here are something like $1300 A.U.D - Honda really doesn't intend to sell them, I think) , OEM main bearings ($26.00 each A.U.D! Why would you ever go non genuine?) and seals. It doesn't need it, and I'll probably hold off on doing it until I get some wide ratio gears.
A simple ( indeed, utterly primitive) engine, that lasts damned near forever. And, with the right set up, it can do everything.
I'm getting eager to fire this thing up!
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Great job.
I didn't have a lot of fuel in the tank, and also this bike has a sizeable flywheel weight, so I'm not sure how it should sound, but it does sound a bit odd to me.
That PJ, will be worn. It's a 92, so even if it sat for years, there's been a lot of up and down action of the slide in the carb. Wear, as in slide to body. Leaking / bleeding of air through that wear. Plus the PJs combination choke knob / idle adjustment is 'iffy'.
An Airstriker, be it a 38mm, or I think they are to be had in up to 40.5 / 41mm. A good, honest carb. Me, I just use a 38 but oval bored it , though, that's a bit of a wank, as in my riding, I'm rarely out of the midrange. Get a new one. Don't eff around with a second hand carb that will likely be worn, too. I wasted money on a bloody SMARTCARB that I could never get the bike even started with reliably. Must chase them up on that....
Did you 'treat' the bike to a new throttle ( and Clutch) cable? New cables can rid you of some weirdness that you could be forever chasing. Also, a healthy throttle unit can alleviate problems. Cable catching in the body, cable routing wheel worn and wobbly, throttle tube worn etc.
One thing I forgot about is the reeds were long in the tooth with a tiny chip on one of the corners. I suppose that is not helping.
My plan is to keep the bike, but maybe I'll just ride it for now and if its something I really want to keep, move forward with the new reeds and carb.
A cantankerous 500 is a pain in the arse.
A set of Boyesen Reeds (just the reeds will do) probably cost bugger all in the states. Their eons old #636 dual stage reeds work perfectly, for all around performance, for probably between $40 / $50 USD. They do std type ('Super Stock') single petal reeds for the mid $30s, std style single Carbon reeds low $50, and also the Pro Series Carbon reeds for around the $70 mark . I preferred and used #636s for years.
I finally took it for a ride tonight. Its a little finicky to start, and it gives a hellish snort out of the exhaust once every few kicks. Overall it rode pretty well though.
https://youtu.be/o4XALry1aVQ
The two big things I notice though, don't ride it like a 250. Short shift and enjoy the meat of the low/mid range. Also, it is straight up trashing my yard. This thing digs trenches just casually booting on it.
The other thing, going back and forth from the YZ250F is dangerous. The YZ is so mild and tame, and easy on the yard (unless you dump the clutch). When you hop back on the 500 you get a reality check right away.
I ended the session actually trying to ride the CR fast. The chassis, ego's, suspension feel pretty good, but its a real struggle to keep it pointed in the right direction. It doesn't surprise you and try to loop you out suddenly, but you just can't get into it without getting crazy. Its like trying to drive John Force's drag car to work when you are running late.
But Lechien and Magoo never heard what DB said
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Now you made me wanna go get a CR500... ;-)
In other news, I ordered some replacement V-Force reeds for my awesome V-Force reed block. Apparently I got the wrong V-Force reeds as the ones I ordered are two petal, but I have a three petal reed loaded up in my block.
However, I noticed my reed block is all eaten up at the tips. There are some weird combustion/carbon grooves at the corners. Just laying the new reeds on top, I could still see light through the corners...so obviously the block is worn out and now I'll be ordering a new V-Force reed block with the two petal design since I have replacement reeds for it already.
Gotta say, the bike ran pretty decent, though it was finicky to start and idle. I can't wait to see what a fresh reed valve does for it.
I treated it like any other bike and ended up attempting a pretty gnarly hill climb about 10 times before giving up. It was pretty sketchy with about a 15 foot quarter pipe looking entrance, then once you got perched on top you were able to "begin" the hill climb on a root infested washed out mess of a hill. At one point the bike looped out and got caught up in a tree. What a mess.
Either way, it was good to put the CR500R through the paces. It can be easy to start and then super stubborn. I don't get it, but I ended up ordering a PWK 38 air striker (tip from Bearuno) and a new kick starter so we'll see if the carb helps out.
That's why I keep plastics on my 500 (that's it in my avatar) that range from 28 years to 17 years old, while having 4 (well, 8 including the '07 250/125 sets I have for my alloy tank and different subframe I run sometimes ) sets of new plastics sitting happily in an Otto bin....
A 500 - with a good , well jetted carb - shouldn't be that hard to start, a few slow priming kicks to give a 'charge' in the cases, and then a quick, full kick. Warm, generally, just a quick, full kick.
It's a 92, so there could be a fair few kicks that lever went through. And, many of them, with blokes flailing off the lever. You are lucky in your bad luck that you only broke the lever - tearing the KS area out of the cases is a pretty common thing, given the bikes age, and the accumulation of people , as I said, flailing at the lever. And that flailing, with a hard stop on the foot peg, provides a hell of a fulcrum, that the lever acts on. So, broken Levers and Cases.
Quite a variety of CR / CRF levers will fit the 500, if you can't find a new 500 item at a decent price. They are also lighter, but, with later , better metallurgy, just as strong, or perhaps stronger, than the std one. You've just got to determine clearance, mainly regarding the pipe you have. I used a CRF450 / CRF450X one for a while, as the foot section sits lower than standard - my legs don't bend (even close to) to 90 degrees, so lower / short levers help me immensely. I run an old Gas Gas 300 lever - that has, I think, only a 12/13mm pivot post as against, I think, the 19/20mm of the std lever knuckle - that I welded to the top of a Honda knuckle I had, with a long foot piece I machined up for it - I have an auto decomp I made for it, that enables use of a short kick lever, with such a small diameter pivot post, and want to Emphasize that the much smaller pivot post on the Gas Gas lever, would probably last only a few kicks, Without a Decompressor. As it is, the Gas Gas lever has been in use for , I think, 15 years now : It all makes starting easier for me. Another advantage of my short lever, is that it gives you more speed to your kick. The standard CR ignition doesn't produce a particularly strong 'spark' in a kick through, so more speed to the lever, helps. A decomp set up is a very wise thing to have, it makes it easier on the starting components, and you. The atrocious Quebecois E start I wasted a few K on, well, it's crap that is an engine destroyer.
Have you checked the timing and pick up clearance on it? They can be (part of) a recipe for cantankerous starting, and broken levers and cases on the CR500.
To ad - there are people, that say a 2 stroke shouldn't idle. Well, they don't seem to know how to tune a good quality, healthy carb, that has a proper choke and idle circuit. I can leave my 500, idling away (because of my utterly f**ked legs), while I clear trail falls, and it stays idling, often for a long, long time, and runs cleanly after it. And, I've Never, Ever fouled a plug on it, in the now 17 (or 18?) years I've had this particular 500. Perhaps it's because I've thermal fans on it, but even before I put fans on, I never fouled a single plug on it, or, since the fans were fitted . It would just boil in an instant, without the fans ........ I largely, ride in tight, what people now would call 'extreme' terrain ( hence the Michelin X1 in the picture) on the old Teddy Bear / Torque Monster of a bike, so if a bike is going fritz a plug, that should be happening, all the bloody time. But, it doesn't, yet it also works perfectly well when I do run it up into high(er) revs.
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