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MXGP would be insane, first American world champion in a while

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RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

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Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke...

Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke his ass he was above Febvre in points who by the way who won the championship that year. Cairoli and Nagl were obviously the top guys and going at it but even those two got injured that year, happens. The very first GP was the only race where RV really looked "off", but so did a couple other good guys.

His results from the season were 7, 1, 4, 4th in the first moto and then "broke his ass" how is that doing well? And the round he won was on a track closer to an American style than a GP style. 

He was dominant stateside and was expected to battle Cairoli for the title that year.

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kawasa84 wrote:
It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins...

It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins in a shortened season with Chase and zero wins for Prado on the KTM.

Then here we are 2 races into the outdoor season and Chase is leading Prado in the 450 points???? 

What season is the poster watching is what I want to know? It's definitely not the 2026 season. My advice for blockhead is to tune in and quickly watch the 2026 Supercross season that you missed. After that, watch the first 2 races of the outdoor nationals of the season and get back to us.

Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. 

I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd think they'd be able to understand that a finish that's the result of a mechanical dnf is not indicative of a rider's ability.

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MXGP would be insane, first American world champion in a while

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RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

Mavetism wrote:
Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke...

Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke his ass he was above Febvre in points who by the way who won the championship that year. Cairoli and Nagl were obviously the top guys and going at it but even those two got injured that year, happens. The very first GP was the only race where RV really looked "off", but so did a couple other good guys.

He also hated racing at that point and was mentally checked out

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MXGP would be insane, first American world champion in a while

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RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

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Lucas is gone next year and Herlings is probably a couple years away from retirement. I think Sexton on a bike he's comfortable on (I know...

Lucas is gone next year and Herlings is probably a couple years away from retirement. I think Sexton on a bike he's comfortable on (I know, BIG if) can beat the rest

I see your point but there's also a bunch of fresh talent coming up from MX2, De Wolf at the moment looks like he's going to be a guy who can fight for titles and Vialle was the 3rd best guy before his start crash in France. Not to mention all the different stuff he'd have to adapt to over there. 

All hypothetical anyway, highly unlikely it would ever happen

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Juck wrote:
RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

Mavetism wrote:
Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke...

Such a bad take and I see that over and over again. RV won an overall in just his 2nd race there and when he broke his ass he was above Febvre in points who by the way who won the championship that year. Cairoli and Nagl were obviously the top guys and going at it but even those two got injured that year, happens. The very first GP was the only race where RV really looked "off", but so did a couple other good guys.

He also hated racing at that point and was mentally checked out

Kinda like Chase is now

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I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week.  On top of that, I would say that his teammate has been exceeding expectations so far this summer.  Marchbanks has been beating national champions on a weekly basis.  Not bad for a guy with only a single 250 motocross podium appearance in his entire career.

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kawasa84 wrote:
It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins...

It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins in a shortened season with Chase and zero wins for Prado on the KTM.

Then here we are 2 races into the outdoor season and Chase is leading Prado in the 450 points???? 

What season is the poster watching is what I want to know? It's definitely not the 2026 season. My advice for blockhead is to tune in and quickly watch the 2026 Supercross season that you missed. After that, watch the first 2 races of the outdoor nationals of the season and get back to us.

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Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd...

Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. 

I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd think they'd be able to understand that a finish that's the result of a mechanical dnf is not indicative of a rider's ability.

I agree. Prado was to only one to keep Hunta honest at round one and was reeling in the Deegs at the end of moto 1 before his engine shit the bed. He could have been a little better coming through the pack after two bad starts from the far outside in moto 2 but overall he got the shaft at HT this weekend. He’ll be back in the lead pack next week. 

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I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week...

I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week.  On top of that, I would say that his teammate has been exceeding expectations so far this summer.  Marchbanks has been beating national champions on a weekly basis.  Not bad for a guy with only a single 250 motocross podium appearance in his entire career.

Exactly! People saying the team isn't flexible is laughable.

They brought in Twisted Development to help with the motor, and an outside suspension company to help with that.

The stunt he pulled yesterday was immature and unprofessional, especialyy with Kawi paying him so much money. He's acting like spoiled litlle bitch.

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I mean, both are absolutely to blame the team and Chase. Generally speaking when it hits this level you see the exit door soon. Neither Garrett nor Chases bikes looked compliant at Hangtown. Deegans looked good, the Hondas looked great tracking straight through the nasty downhills etc. Garrett is just a damn diesel engine outdoors and showing his maturity. 

Looks like Star will be picking up a supremely talented rider who needs rebuilding. Bonus heavy contract, get him in the mix with the boys day in and day out. Rebuild him mentally. Chase is a good person, a competitive athlete and one who is struggling. Ok, time for some real changes. 

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kawasa84 wrote:
It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins...

It's crazy that Prado said the bike sucked and went to KTM. Chase leaves KTM & goes green and the Kawaski gets 2 450 Supercross wins in a shortened season with Chase and zero wins for Prado on the KTM.

Then here we are 2 races into the outdoor season and Chase is leading Prado in the 450 points???? 

What season is the poster watching is what I want to know? It's definitely not the 2026 season. My advice for blockhead is to tune in and quickly watch the 2026 Supercross season that you missed. After that, watch the first 2 races of the outdoor nationals of the season and get back to us.

Juck wrote:
Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd...

Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. 

I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd think they'd be able to understand that a finish that's the result of a mechanical dnf is not indicative of a rider's ability.

I agree. Prado was to only one to keep Hunta honest at round one and was reeling in the Deegs at the end of moto 1...

I agree. Prado was to only one to keep Hunta honest at round one and was reeling in the Deegs at the end of moto 1 before his engine shit the bed. He could have been a little better coming through the pack after two bad starts from the far outside in moto 2 but overall he got the shaft at HT this weekend. He’ll be back in the lead pack next week. 

Lets be honest, I'm only pointing out Prado because he basically started everything about how bad the Kawi is. Yet in his time in the US has zero wins on any brand. Chase has wins on the KTM and the Kawi and Chase is leading him in the points. So Prado brought some of this comparison on himself. 

Chase is a headcase. I'm finding that out. But when being ran down yesterday by Marchbanks, he sure did easily respond and start running 1:58's consistently to hold him off. Chase can and will go fast when Chase wants to. It's not the bike. It's a shame Chase doesn't want to go fast all the time. I don't know why

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His results from the season were 7, 1, 4, 4th in the first moto and then "broke his ass" how is that doing well? And the...

His results from the season were 7, 1, 4, 4th in the first moto and then "broke his ass" how is that doing well? And the round he won was on a track closer to an American style than a GP style. 

He was dominant stateside and was expected to battle Cairoli for the title that year.

Are we really still parroting the narrative that RV only won in Thailand because the track was “American style”? What a load of a shit. It’s the complete opposite, it was a man made track in a flat field no different from like 1/3rd of the tracks the GP series visits. If you want to make any excuse for the GP guys that weekend it would’ve been the heat.

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Juck wrote:
Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd...

Insane how many people are writing off Prado because his bike blew up. 

I know most people on this board have lead poisoning but even then you'd think they'd be able to understand that a finish that's the result of a mechanical dnf is not indicative of a rider's ability.

I agree. Prado was to only one to keep Hunta honest at round one and was reeling in the Deegs at the end of moto 1...

I agree. Prado was to only one to keep Hunta honest at round one and was reeling in the Deegs at the end of moto 1 before his engine shit the bed. He could have been a little better coming through the pack after two bad starts from the far outside in moto 2 but overall he got the shaft at HT this weekend. He’ll be back in the lead pack next week. 

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Lets be honest, I'm only pointing out Prado because he basically started everything about how bad the Kawi is. Yet in his time in the US...

Lets be honest, I'm only pointing out Prado because he basically started everything about how bad the Kawi is. Yet in his time in the US has zero wins on any brand. Chase has wins on the KTM and the Kawi and Chase is leading him in the points. So Prado brought some of this comparison on himself. 

Chase is a headcase. I'm finding that out. But when being ran down yesterday by Marchbanks, he sure did easily respond and start running 1:58's consistently to hold him off. Chase can and will go fast when Chase wants to. It's not the bike. It's a shame Chase doesn't want to go fast all the time. I don't know why

From my understanding is it is similar to the 2010 Yamaha and that it gets a little unpredictable when pushed at the higher levels. You watch those Hondas front end slap side to side and the rear stays perfectly straight. The bike is super predictable. Both Kawasakis kick on the rear pretty dang badly and as a racer. Up and down is ok, side to side no bueno 

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Who takes him on at this point?

Star or Quad lock are the only two I can think of- or does he go MXGP?

 

MXGP would be insane, first American world champion in a while

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RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

In the three or four races RV raced in GPs he did win one.

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Before Kawasaki was the issue it was the KTM. Before KTM was the issue it was the Honda that he called the issue. There’s a common...

Before Kawasaki was the issue it was the KTM. Before KTM was the issue it was the Honda that he called the issue. There’s a common denominator here and it isn’t the Kawasaki!

Was Honda the issue, or were the Lawrences the issue?

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Are we forgetting that he rode the bike and decided to sign a three year contract on it? There is no defending/feeling bad for this kid...

Are we forgetting that he rode the bike and decided to sign a three year contract on it? There is no defending/feeling bad for this kid at this point.

No doubt, it's his fault, but this isn't working.  

Suzuki didn't work for MC.  The redesigned Yamaha didn't work for James. The Kaw didn't work for Prado, and now Chase.

I never wanted to see talented guys, who could be battling up front, hamstrung by their bikes.  It's good for no one.

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This pains me to say, I bleed green.. I haven’t owned another colour dirt bike since 2010, But it IS the team / bike.I see in...

This pains me to say, I bleed green.. I haven’t owned another colour dirt bike since 2010, But it IS the team / bike.

I see in all the other threads people say “but Ken just won on a Suzuki” or “he just needs to ride the bike” well Chase IS just riding the bike, he isn’t publicly complaining about it, he is obviously trying really hard and it’s not working.

Is Chase Waaaaaaaaaay too picky with bikes? No question.. but with how Prado looks after getting off that team and now how Chase looks on there, I think the writing is on the wall.

All of us armchair experts have no idea what it takes to be at the very top of the sport, but when Chase is comfortable, it’s poetry in motion. There are obviously limitations within the Kawi package, it sounds like it’s not lack of trying, but when you are chasing 10ths of a second there are tiny things that can become much larger.

If you watch Chase on the track, he is really trying, his riding style has changed, likely for the bike, but the two aren’t gelling. 
I don’t know where he goes and I can almost bet he will be picky there too, but his talent is being wasted right now. At least he could win on the KTM, I just really don’t see it on the Kawi outdoors, unless they make major changes, which I’m sure they are trying.

It’s painful to watch someone as talented as chase riding around in 8th

The 11 people who disliked this should have their heads examined. This post was SPOT on. It’s like chase is turning into another Ferrandis. Fastest dude out there at times, and now just turning into a non factor. God put him back on Honda or give star a try or something… This is hard to watch 

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Sexton left a team that he went last to first on.

 

Well if you ain’t first your last 

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I’d not even focus on winning.  Focus for now should be completing a moto or SX main without any crashes, tip overs, or off track excursions.  Prove that first and then we’ll talk about top 5 and eventually podium.  Take the pressure off.

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His results from the season were 7, 1, 4, 4th in the first moto and then "broke his ass" how is that doing well? And the...

His results from the season were 7, 1, 4, 4th in the first moto and then "broke his ass" how is that doing well? And the round he won was on a track closer to an American style than a GP style. 

He was dominant stateside and was expected to battle Cairoli for the title that year.

Are we really still parroting the narrative that RV only won in Thailand because the track was “American style”? What a load of a shit. It’s...

Are we really still parroting the narrative that RV only won in Thailand because the track was “American style”? What a load of a shit. It’s the complete opposite, it was a man made track in a flat field no different from like 1/3rd of the tracks the GP series visits. If you want to make any excuse for the GP guys that weekend it would’ve been the heat.

Was a fast open track with a rhythm section. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but it wasn't typical GP tight technical corners on a hillside

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MXGP would be insane, first American world champion in a while

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RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as...

RV was way better than Sexton and he didn't do well when he went to MXGP and the field was nowhere near as deep then as it is now

Spoonguy wrote:

In the three or four races RV raced in GPs he did win one.

Yes but he was nowhere close to winning the other ones

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Sexton left a team that he went last to first on.

 

Hot take here but his ride at Washougal last year was even more impressive to me because Jett was not out of the race like at Hangtown and he was still blowing the doors off everyone that weekend. Also same bike though. How can you dislike a bike so much when you look like the best rider in the world on some weekends and in SX aswell? The best Chase we have seen is at least up there with Hunter right now, it's mindblowing he does that to himself..

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He desperately needs a new coach/mentor.

His dad is tanking his career.

I recommend BT. 

Tanking might be strong…. But you can’t move three bikes, have the same problems while continually saying “if I have the right bike I’ll win”

There seems to be an accountability issue.

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At this point, it’s kind of time to forget about him. No one knows what is really going on. It’s no secret he’s looking for another team, and will be off the Kawi soon (at least by next year). I predict he tanks every race. He’s hated every bike he’s ridden - wants a chopper that can turn like an RM125. How does that happen?

(Another Chase forum 😒)

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I feel like hed have to go to triumph or ducati as they are trying to make a splash and dont have any win capable riders yet. The triumph by all accounts is a great chassis. It would be high risk high reward, but they dont really have any reputation in mx yet so theres really no rep to destroy if it bombs. 

I still say he was his best version on the ktm, not quite as fast as on the honda but he crashed muuch less. Maybe he could join webb on team tedder?

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Before Kawasaki was the issue it was the KTM. Before KTM was the issue it was the Honda that he called the issue. There’s a common...

Before Kawasaki was the issue it was the KTM. Before KTM was the issue it was the Honda that he called the issue. There’s a common denominator here and it isn’t the Kawasaki!

If it smells like shit everywhere you go, look under your shoe! 

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Pop Shmoke wrote:
I feel like hed have to go to triumph or ducati as they are trying to make a splash and dont have any win capable riders...

I feel like hed have to go to triumph or ducati as they are trying to make a splash and dont have any win capable riders yet. The triumph by all accounts is a great chassis. It would be high risk high reward, but they dont really have any reputation in mx yet so theres really no rep to destroy if it bombs. 

I still say he was his best version on the ktm, not quite as fast as on the honda but he crashed muuch less. Maybe he could join webb on team tedder?

I'd imagine he'd probably have to take a sizeable pay cut to go there

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I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week...

I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week.  On top of that, I would say that his teammate has been exceeding expectations so far this summer.  Marchbanks has been beating national champions on a weekly basis.  Not bad for a guy with only a single 250 motocross podium appearance in his entire career.

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Exactly! People saying the team isn't flexible is laughable.They brought in Twisted Development to help with the motor, and an outside suspension company to help with...

Exactly! People saying the team isn't flexible is laughable.

They brought in Twisted Development to help with the motor, and an outside suspension company to help with that.

The stunt he pulled yesterday was immature and unprofessional, especialyy with Kawi paying him so much money. He's acting like spoiled litlle bitch.

There’s flexibility and then there’s being lost…and the leadership of this team has been lost for years…I think the recent flexibility has more to do with team management doing anything and everything to save their jobs…

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I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week...

I think it’s time for a new Chase, team.  It ain’t the team.  They have literally been throwing the kitchen sink at the bike every week.  On top of that, I would say that his teammate has been exceeding expectations so far this summer.  Marchbanks has been beating national champions on a weekly basis.  Not bad for a guy with only a single 250 motocross podium appearance in his entire career.

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Exactly! People saying the team isn't flexible is laughable.They brought in Twisted Development to help with the motor, and an outside suspension company to help with...

Exactly! People saying the team isn't flexible is laughable.

They brought in Twisted Development to help with the motor, and an outside suspension company to help with that.

The stunt he pulled yesterday was immature and unprofessional, especialyy with Kawi paying him so much money. He's acting like spoiled litlle bitch.

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There’s flexibility and then there’s being lost…and the leadership of this team has been lost for years…I think the recent flexibility has more to do with...

There’s flexibility and then there’s being lost…and the leadership of this team has been lost for years…I think the recent flexibility has more to do with team management doing anything and everything to save their jobs…

I agree. I think the team management needs to go. That said, I don't think it would do much for Chase

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Juck wrote:

Was a fast open track with a rhythm section. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but it wasn't typical GP tight technical corners on a hillside

It was the same style of track that has been a staple of the GP series for years now. Tracks built in open fields with no elevation. Look at the MXGP of China last year, there were no tight turns on hillsides to be seen there.

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