The Numbers Don't Lie - Jett Vs's Deegen

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Well there was plenty of cry when Deegan finished up 250sx so let's keep track of the numbers.

 

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26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

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You guys have way too much spare time. 

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I’m blown away by the fact they shaved 4 seconds (J) and 7 seconds (H) off the fastest laps in the second moto when the track was in worse shape. These freaking guys are aliens at this level. 

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5/31/2026 1:08am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 1:29am
jaun wrote:
Well there was plenty of cry when Deegan finished up 250sx so let's keep track of the numbers.   

Well there was plenty of cry when Deegan finished up 250sx so let's keep track of the numbers.

 

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Why not just compare Jett to every rookie premier class rider. How many had an exact record as Jett and what were their names?  
 

(crickets)
 

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26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

Are you saying that if they both got on a 250 now Haiden would beat him?

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RC and RV recently I'm not going to think back further than that 

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Add Herlings, he went 1-1 in his first ever AMA 450 MX race 

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26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

jaun wrote:

Are you saying that if they both got on a 250 now Haiden would beat him?

why does that matter?

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The last comment.

This leaves it open to say Deegen is better on a 250, do you really think peak 250 Haiden would beat peak Jett?

"Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450" 

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5/31/2026 5:22am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 7:20am
26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

This ^^
Except maybe 2023 Sexton, Todays Haiden would have beaten these guys back then.

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26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

mx691 wrote:
This ^^Except maybe 2023 Sexton, Todays Haiden would have beaten these guys back then.

This ^^
Except maybe 2023 Sexton, Todays Haiden would have beaten these guys back then.

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Wouldn’t have beaten prime chase the way he started and rode today.  No.

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Wouldn’t have beaten prime chase the way he started and rode today.  No.

Prime chase was never faster then jett.

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Wouldn’t have beaten prime chase the way he started and rode today.  No.

Prime chase was never faster then jett.

but faster as Deegan his first 450 race for sure 

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Wouldn’t have beaten prime chase the way he started and rode today.  No.

Prime chase was never faster then jett.

Prime Chase is on par with Jett top speed-wise, he just gets overwhelmed when Jett’s on the line for some reason. 

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jaun wrote:

Add Herlings, he went 1-1 in his first ever AMA 450 MX race 

Dude you are trying way too hard….give it time it’s only been one race…

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5/31/2026 7:38am

You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be mentioned for 60 min +4 every weekend. 

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steveloyer wrote:
From the Moto Aggregate App   

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Doesn't remove first lap? Amateur hour...

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They had a brieff "battle" in moto1, still havent found pictures of that for my new wallpapers and posters on my wall

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You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be...

You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be mentioned for 60 min +4 every weekend. 

don't forget interview with Deegan but not J-Coop

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Wouldn’t have beaten prime chase the way he started and rode today.  No.

Why are we talking about prime Chase? Kawasaki Chase literally crashed and was all over Deegan at the finish.

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5/31/2026 10:07am
You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be...

You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be mentioned for 60 min +4 every weekend. 

I'm starting to think being a Debbie Downer is becoming a sport all it's own.

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5/31/2026 10:21am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 10:29am
You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be...

You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be mentioned for 60 min +4 every weekend. 

peelout wrote:

don't forget interview with Deegan but not J-Coop

The industry has looked over j coop his whole career. Quietly chipping away and will win one of these soon. 

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5/31/2026 10:55am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 11:05am
jaun wrote:

Add Herlings, he went 1-1 in his first ever AMA 450 MX race 

DonM wrote:

Dude you are trying way too hard….give it time it’s only been one race…

I said the same thing after Jett went 1-1 in his 2023 450MX debut. “It’s only been one race, give it time.”


That said, I think Deegan had a really good and successful day in his 450MX debut.  Nothing to be ashamed and plenty to be proud of.  

Comparatively, Jett had a phenomenal and record-setting day in his 450MX debut… and then had 10 more days of 1-1’s to back it up. 

Do you think Deegan will achieve a 1-1 in his rookie 450MX season? He could, but I don’t think it would be in the commanding way that Jett did it. 

Deegan, in his own words, said that he was there to learn, while Jett, in his 450MX rookie debut, came to teach. 

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You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be...

You teenagers can't even enjoy good racing anymore. Complain about the broadcast every minute, the announcing, the speed of the bikes and now Deegan will be mentioned for 60 min +4 every weekend. 

peelout wrote:

don't forget interview with Deegan but not J-Coop

The industry has looked over j coop his whole career. Quietly chipping away and will win one of these soon. 

He's turned out to be a hell of a 450 sx and mx rider. Well rounded in both. Will he ever beat the Lawrence's? No but he's going to have an amazing career to look back on when its all said and done. One we could only dream of

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5/31/2026 11:02am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 12:59pm

It’s amazing how people glaze and skew numbers to meet their desired outcome. 

There are so many different factors to each season that simply saying so and so did this or beat that in previous years is just ignorant. Just stfu and enjoy like 4 phenoms from different parts of the world, from different series and backgrounds go at it. 

Like what’s the point of these retard fans? 
Was Jett’s rookie race better? Yep

Is Deegan still a fucking animal and his trajectory is sky high? Yep 

Does that somehow make Deegan suck? Nope

Does that make Jett unbeatable? Nope

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A data set of one doesn’t give much information..

38 rode pretty damn good, top 5 is a great debut, he fouled the water with his chirping, he looks to me like he’s got more speed if he calms down/smooths out some.

But we really need 3 or more data points to know anything. This could have been his worst race of the season, or his best. In July we’ll have something to look at, results wise. And I bet he’ll flap his jaw no matter what..

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26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better...

26 field is way more stacked.    Haiden beat everyone Jett did at Pala in 2023. 

Now before people start angry typing, yes Jett is the better rider on the 450.  

So did Jett lol

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5/31/2026 11:05am Edited Date/Time 5/31/2026 11:06am
jaun wrote:
Well there was plenty of cry when Deegan finished up 250sx so let's keep track of the numbers.   

Well there was plenty of cry when Deegan finished up 250sx so let's keep track of the numbers.

 

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Why not just compare Jett to every rookie premier class rider. How many had an exact record as Jett and what were their names?  
 

(crickets)
 

I’m guessing because Deegan has been saying he would beat Jett, “RIP Jett”, etc. and talking about being 22-0. None of the other guys said that coming in.


That said, this thread is kinda silly and yesterdays races were awesome!

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I think his current style on a 450 isn’t going to work well in SX. But I think he’s gonna figure that out in the next 4-5 races.. 

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