Feld making negative changes.

Tyler D wrote:

i think its just the vulture class looking for a quick return. the steady, sustainable growth model has been crowded out and the only way to...

i think its just the vulture class looking for a quick return. the steady, sustainable growth model has been crowded out and the only way to get investment and compete is to juice short-term numbers at the expense of quality and thus long-term brand equity. the Japanese generally have/had it right, the ROW have it wrong, but it's sort of become the american way. 

Shimano vs SRAM at the enthusiast level in the bike world is a good example. Shimano is terrible at product segmentation because they are too ethical to decontent their products. SRAM will sell literal shit to an OEM jsut to get the spec and the shit falls apart in 3-4 months. they usually keep the customer becuase the customer buys into the deceptive marketing hype at the higher end and is too lazy or ignorant to do actual research, and /or just wants what is considered cool. meanwhile shimano and their boring 6-year, hyperengineered product cycles is merely viewed as slow and old hat. 

IOW custoemrs are to blame too, because they want better/faster/cheaper instead of a better engineered, less flashy, slightly less intuitive product that will actually serve them well with limited amounts of built-in planned obsolescence. 

on the street side KTM is the epitome of this. flashy products with lots of attention grabbing features, that use questionable suppliers and leave customers stranded down the road. but theyre fun to ride when they do work and they always review really well in the magazines. also, ktm customers apparently dont mind paying $$$ to unlock software features already on the bike, so. 

Tyler D wrote:

i think its just the vulture class looking for a quick return. the steady, sustainable growth model has been crowded out and the only way to...

i think its just the vulture class looking for a quick return. the steady, sustainable growth model has been crowded out and the only way to get investment and compete is to juice short-term numbers at the expense of quality and thus long-term brand equity. the Japanese generally have/had it right, the ROW have it wrong, but it's sort of become the american way. 

Shimano vs SRAM at the enthusiast level in the bike world is a good example. Shimano is terrible at product segmentation because they are too ethical to decontent their products. SRAM will sell literal shit to an OEM jsut to get the spec and the shit falls apart in 3-4 months. they usually keep the customer becuase the customer buys into the deceptive marketing hype at the higher end and is too lazy or ignorant to do actual research, and /or just wants what is considered cool. meanwhile shimano and their boring 6-year, hyperengineered product cycles is merely viewed as slow and old hat. 

IOW custoemrs are to blame too, because they want better/faster/cheaper instead of a better engineered, less flashy, slightly less intuitive product that will actually serve them well with limited amounts of built-in planned obsolescence. 

on the street side KTM is the epitome of this. flashy products with lots of attention grabbing features, that use questionable suppliers and leave customers stranded down the road. but theyre fun to ride when they do work and they always review really well in the magazines. also, ktm customers apparently dont mind paying $$$ to unlock software features already on the bike, so. 

aeffertz wrote:

Except in this instance this doesn’t even seem like a “quick return” but rather “we see third parties making money and we should not allow that.”

FreshTopEnd wrote:

These are the current existing media application conditions: "All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any...

These are the current existing media application conditions: 

"All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any telecast, broadcast, transmission or recording thereof shall remain the sole property of the SMX League, and no such rights are conferred to or intended to be conferred to, or created on behalf of, Bearer or any other person or entity by the issuance of this credential."

"Media members approved for editorial assignments (which comprises most credentialed media) are ONLY permitted to provide coverage for their assignment on record and are not allowed to post on personal accounts if on assignment.

• If a photographer or videographer has been assigned to shoot for a specific media outlet – photos and video can only be used in the scope of that assignment and for that media outlet
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignment need to refrain from distributing their work to third parties – teams, racers, sponsors, gear companies, etc., as that is a commercial endeavor
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignments cannot sell photographs or videography work for additional clients under an editorial credential
• At no time should photographs or video appear on a photographer/videographer’s social channels prior to the media outlet they were assigned to shoot for

*Any applicants representing brands that are not partnered with the series will not be permitted. Rare exceptions may be made, but will require a thorough vetting process by series personnel for a potential one-off scenario."

https://promotocross.com/media-access

FreshTopEnd wrote:

These are the current existing media application conditions: "All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any...

These are the current existing media application conditions: 

"All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any telecast, broadcast, transmission or recording thereof shall remain the sole property of the SMX League, and no such rights are conferred to or intended to be conferred to, or created on behalf of, Bearer or any other person or entity by the issuance of this credential."

"Media members approved for editorial assignments (which comprises most credentialed media) are ONLY permitted to provide coverage for their assignment on record and are not allowed to post on personal accounts if on assignment.

• If a photographer or videographer has been assigned to shoot for a specific media outlet – photos and video can only be used in the scope of that assignment and for that media outlet
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignment need to refrain from distributing their work to third parties – teams, racers, sponsors, gear companies, etc., as that is a commercial endeavor
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignments cannot sell photographs or videography work for additional clients under an editorial credential
• At no time should photographs or video appear on a photographer/videographer’s social channels prior to the media outlet they were assigned to shoot for

*Any applicants representing brands that are not partnered with the series will not be permitted. Rare exceptions may be made, but will require a thorough vetting process by series personnel for a potential one-off scenario."

https://promotocross.com/media-access

yak651 wrote:

Sounds like many were double dipping when it’s outlined in the agreement that that is not allowed. So more about not following the rules and photo...

Sounds like many were double dipping when it’s outlined in the agreement that that is not allowed. So more about not following the rules and photo guys are upset they can’t get away with it next year??

lumpy790 wrote:

Who was it again that was kicked out because of what he was posting? He was the 1st one that I am aware of and that...

Who was it again that was kicked out because of what he was posting? He was the 1st one that I am aware of and that could be the reason.

 

lumpy790 wrote:

Who was it again that was kicked out because of what he was posting? He was the 1st one that I am aware of and that...

Who was it again that was kicked out because of what he was posting? He was the 1st one that I am aware of and that could be the reason.

 

JazzyJJ wrote:

slowie films or whatever his name was, he was all about filming the pit parties and fights and that kind of stuff

FreshTopEnd wrote:

These are the current existing media application conditions: "All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any...

These are the current existing media application conditions: 

"All ownership, copyright and property rights in each SMX event (including, without limitation, the statistics thereof) and in any telecast, broadcast, transmission or recording thereof shall remain the sole property of the SMX League, and no such rights are conferred to or intended to be conferred to, or created on behalf of, Bearer or any other person or entity by the issuance of this credential."

"Media members approved for editorial assignments (which comprises most credentialed media) are ONLY permitted to provide coverage for their assignment on record and are not allowed to post on personal accounts if on assignment.

• If a photographer or videographer has been assigned to shoot for a specific media outlet – photos and video can only be used in the scope of that assignment and for that media outlet
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignment need to refrain from distributing their work to third parties – teams, racers, sponsors, gear companies, etc., as that is a commercial endeavor
• Photographers and videographers on editorial assignments cannot sell photographs or videography work for additional clients under an editorial credential
• At no time should photographs or video appear on a photographer/videographer’s social channels prior to the media outlet they were assigned to shoot for

*Any applicants representing brands that are not partnered with the series will not be permitted. Rare exceptions may be made, but will require a thorough vetting process by series personnel for a potential one-off scenario."

https://promotocross.com/media-access

yak651 wrote:

Sounds like many were double dipping when it’s outlined in the agreement that that is not allowed. So more about not following the rules and photo...

Sounds like many were double dipping when it’s outlined in the agreement that that is not allowed. So more about not following the rules and photo guys are upset they can’t get away with it next year??

T-Fish wrote:

Did ML forget this thread exists?