2025 TBI 300sx nothing but issues

wiggins419
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8 hours on bike. Bought it brand new, 1st hour was trouble free and then nothing but problems. It fouls plugs within an hour, it absolutely desinegrated a reed at hour 5, the latest issue that it bogs or shuts off in the air not allowing me to land with the gas on. I have zero confidence on this machine because I do not trust it and think it’s gonna kill me. Bummer cause when it decides to run good, it’s absolutely incredible. 

Specs: 

-60:1 motorex cut with ethanol free and VP 110

-Bills pipe/ silencer

-BR8 iridium plug 

-ECU reflash by moto x mapping

- Vforce reeds (since the stock ones exploded) 

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Throwing any codes? Try another ECU…check wiring for pinch and/ or connections…I have had 2 300SX”s…a total of 200hrs between the 2 of them…. Never had any issues….I replace in line fuel filter every 20hrs, OEM spark plug and powervalve reset every 25-30hrs….top ends at 100hrs…have never had reed block apart on either machine….

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5/11/2026 7:43am

When was the ECU reflash done?

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profmur
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5/11/2026 10:11am

Bogging and poor running can be a sign of a bad crank case pressure sensor.   The electronic power valve could also need reset which would lead to poor running.  

Are you getting any codes? 

 

wiggins419
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profmur wrote:
Bogging and poor running can be a sign of a bad crank case pressure sensor.   The electronic power valve could also need reset which would...

Bogging and poor running can be a sign of a bad crank case pressure sensor.   The electronic power valve could also need reset which would lead to poor running.  

Are you getting any codes? 

 

No codes. I’ll look into the CCPS

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Could be the reflash, contact motox and see if they can restore it back to stock...as a test.

The mapping might be too aggressive for your conditions, most of these bikes run different from each other right out of the crate.

A reflash doesn't always work for every bike across the board, yes it ran good for a short time but then it caused adverse affects....hard to know for sure. starting back from stock eliminates the reflash, then you'll know.

You might be better off to go with a tsp erm, you can control mapping, build your own maps, download tsp maps and toggle between stock and alternative maps.

Plus it has a host of other features, data logging, code reading and clearing, pv adjustments etc...

 

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wiggins419
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moto9 wrote:
Could be the reflash, contact motox and see if they can restore it back to stock...as a test.The mapping might be too aggressive for your conditions...

Could be the reflash, contact motox and see if they can restore it back to stock...as a test.

The mapping might be too aggressive for your conditions, most of these bikes run different from each other right out of the crate.

A reflash doesn't always work for every bike across the board, yes it ran good for a short time but then it caused adverse affects....hard to know for sure. starting back from stock eliminates the reflash, then you'll know.

You might be better off to go with a tsp erm, you can control mapping, build your own maps, download tsp maps and toggle between stock and alternative maps.

Plus it has a host of other features, data logging, code reading and clearing, pv adjustments etc...

 

Great info. Just ordered the ERM. Talked to a guy at South Bay performance who was incredibly knowledgeable. 

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As a lot of things are not OEM on your bike I would go back to those specs and start from there: 

proper TPS learning (performed by a dealer)

proper exhaust valve motor learning 

run standard BR8ES plug (saves you money too)

run (best available) standard pump gas (saves you money too)

check deck height (x-distance 0,00 to 0,10) and exhaust valve height (z-distance 48,00) just to be sure the hardware side is OK

check crank pressure sensor (but I guess it´s okay)

exhaust and reeds should not play such a major role

Then I´m pretty sure you get this thing running properly and will enjoy riding it.

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5/13/2026 5:23am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2026 5:38am
profmur wrote:
Bogging and poor running can be a sign of a bad crank case pressure sensor.   The electronic power valve could also need reset which would...

Bogging and poor running can be a sign of a bad crank case pressure sensor.   The electronic power valve could also need reset which would lead to poor running.  

Are you getting any codes? 

 

wiggins419 wrote:

No codes. I’ll look into the CCPS

The TBI has two identical sensors, one used as ccps and one as ambient air.    You can swap them to test, and if the poor running goes away its due the sensor.

Further troubleshooting:  When did the poor running start? 

Before or after ECU reprogram?  Did the bike run well/no symptoms after the ECU reprogram? 

Before or after the reed block replacement?  Same question as above, did it run well/no symptoms after the reed block replacement?

 

wiggins419
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FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

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wiggins419 wrote:
FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can...

FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

A great result for you!

Of the - an estimate - perhaps 40 to 50 people I've known with the 2 variants of EFI 'KTGroup' 2ts, I've only seen around 2 with heartbreaking problems. 

And, they were truly heartbreaking for the poor buggers. 

The TPS connectors and the CC pressure sensors were (slightly) common, but, generally easily sorted, once the 'cures' were known.

Hope it stays well running, after your problems.

 

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Glad you solved your issue! The only time I use a pressure washer is at the races, and I aim low with the high pressure. Mainly use my garden hose to clean bike….and never spray water at switches on handlebars…or connectors for TBI…. I have never had an issue with both of my 300SX”s….stock these bikes are fun, with a tune and gearing for your riding….these bikes are unbelievable….I go from high rpm Mx track to tight woods riding with just a pipe swap and selecting the a different map…

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wiggins419 wrote:
FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can...

FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

How is the performance with the TSP ERM versus the MotoX Mapping?

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wiggins419 wrote:
FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can...

FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

Bearuno wrote:
A great result for you!Of the - an estimate - perhaps 40 to 50 people I've known with the 2 variants of EFI 'KTGroup' 2ts, I've...

A great result for you!

Of the - an estimate - perhaps 40 to 50 people I've known with the 2 variants of EFI 'KTGroup' 2ts, I've only seen around 2 with heartbreaking problems. 

And, they were truly heartbreaking for the poor buggers. 

The TPS connectors and the CC pressure sensors were (slightly) common, but, generally easily sorted, once the 'cures' were known.

Hope it stays well running, after your problems.

 

You could use fluid film on all electrical connectors.

Now... There's a controversial debate as to which is better, fluid film or di-electric grease.

I did some real world research on this topic and most mechanics in the salt belt only use fluid film, for a few reasons.

Di-electric grease, is non conducting and many techs have said it caused more electrical issues by interfering with connectivity, especially low voltage circuits.

Now, I've not had any issues with digrease but after talking to a guy that specializes in vehicle electrical issues....he convinced me to switch to fluid film and it's been fine.

 

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wiggins419
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wiggins419 wrote:
FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can...

FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

How is the performance with the TSP ERM versus the MotoX Mapping?

Pretty similar, but the TSP ERM is about 10% better just about everywhere. Not to mention all the other things it can do other than mapping. I was hesitant about dropping $500, but after receiving it and playing around with it, it is a really fair value for all that you get. 

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wiggins419 wrote:
FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can...

FIXED. Found water in the TPS connection, made a little die electric grease seal to help prevent that. Also got the TSP ERM. All i can say is wow. This thing is incredible. Zero lag, bog, nothing. So crisp and clean 

How is the performance with the TSP ERM versus the MotoX Mapping?

wiggins419 wrote:
Pretty similar, but the TSP ERM is about 10% better just about everywhere. Not to mention all the other things it can do other than mapping...

Pretty similar, but the TSP ERM is about 10% better just about everywhere. Not to mention all the other things it can do other than mapping. I was hesitant about dropping $500, but after receiving it and playing around with it, it is a really fair value for all that you get. 

Thanks!  I’m likely going to pull the trigger this week on an ERM. 

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Yup, need more electronics on dirt bikes

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