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Get well Brandon and here's to a speedy recovery.
Yep, my max out of pocket is $5000. If I need a helicopter, call that fucker, cus I’m just laying 5 grand. Also, I think it’s crazy that these dudes get hurt “on the job” and the job doesn’t cover their ass. If I’m at work and I get hurt by something that is out of my control, you damn right my work is going to pay for it.
That was cringey man. Why make this thread political.
Forgive my ignorance but can you actually line up for an AMA race without insurance? I would hope not
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Think the AMA is gonna look into it if you have insurance or not. Hell no.
True, but you are employee and not a contractor. Riders are not paid as employees. Regardless, having the right coverage is a must.
What is "played out"? I don't know what his coverage is and my comments have not been directed at Brandon. I want him to get better and make a full recovery, but having the right insurance will help him do that and other riders should have the same. The go fund me is very strange as his insurance should have a max out of pocket and it's not 500K. If it is, he needs different insurance.
Yeah, R2R should just be honest and say he will have medical bills and won’t have any income for a while and appreciates any help. That is the truth unless I’m missing something.
A couple things, first hope Brandon is on his way to recovery, this sport is definitely cruel at times.
Your insurance may have a max out of pocket, but it may also have some fine print stipulations about what is covered during certain activities. Some people look for a cheaper rate and might miss that coverage is denied during “competition” or “extreme sports”
People keep saying AMA should require insurance for races, this was at a practice session not a race
Like mentioned US healthcare is a joke and certain people are making too much off the system to make positive change
Not sure about now but,(definitely seems like that's obvious considering how insurer's would sue everything and everyone nowadays) back in 1985-1986 i did.
Most (95%)(USA) citizens would definitely benefit from medicare for all!
I work for a multi-national multi-billion $ company and our insurance is less than M4A, In fact our CEO proclaimed M4A would save our Co. money and make us more cost competitive nationally, Even against trumps corperate tax breaks.
Get well soon Drago. You're a rock.
yep, I remember every time I went to the hospital we were always very careful to tell the doctors and nurses that I was practicing, not racing. Heavy emphasis on practicing. I grew up racing Brandon at Englishtown and Pagoda, this sucks to see. Such a good dude
Healthcare in NZ is free? I was always taught "there is no free lunch", but I am glad you guys have gotten this figured out. This will change a lot of things on a global scale....
Really? So, the Docs, Nurses and Janitors dont get paid?
LOL!
Hoping for a full recovery for Brandon.
The only thing certain about Brandon's situation is that these riders aren't "nearly" compensated well enough. They are lowest paid licensed participant of any professional televised sport. Keeping my fingers crossed that the Saudi's start growing an interest Pro-motocross.
This makes sense. Suzuki says, he's a contractor, not our problem, and the insurance company says, he got hurt on the job, not our problem. It's a shame that on top of everything Brandon is going through, he has to navigate the financial and legal aspects of the US healthcare system.
He should have a Sports specific add on to his coverage.
Also he should also have a supplemental that pays you in case of injury.
These guys should know these things because of past injuries and just being around the sport on a professional level.
Sent money, just won't buy then next case of beer. Will be good for both of us.
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Always have to have one who is stupid
What is stupid about it?
NZ= Tax revenue spent on crappy health care.
USA = Tax revenue spent on crappy war.
Maybe it is you that is stupid?
Same here, and I fully agree about the AMA/Feld doing a bit more for it's athletes on the insurance front. At a minimum do the leg work that sets options of insurance that do in fact cover tragic events like this.
You’ve been watching to much tucky
Wow, that's good news that he has feeling. Sucks though.
Wut?
UFC fighters are all 1099 but they have insurance available for them to partake in that they cover. Fighters then choose to add extra coverage on their own.
Feld and MX sports could easily do something like this and make it eligible to anyone who has made X amount of night shows or fast 40s outdoors in the last 2 or 3 years. That way riders have to perform to keep it as well but it gives them a 2-3 year gap safety net for established riders.
Thanks @chasetwo79 this is exactly what should be available to the stars of our sport.
Feld/FIM/AMA please step up, and put some clearly defined and relatively affordable insurance options for your athletes to select, and pay for out of their own/sponsors own pockets. This does not seem like a far fetched idea.
So after chewing through the 'non moto' stuff, its great to hear he is starting to turn a corner.
Edited post - don't feel like dealing with repercussions of my words.
This is not a Feld/MX Sports problem. It is already offered in the marketplace with "Obamacare" which is essentially made for independent contractors and those who do not have insurance through their employers. Is the promotors wanted to partner with a carrier and offer a deal or something, that would be great, but still not their problem. The problem is riders not preparing knowing damn well what the risks are and then posting Go fund me's for it. The Go Fund Me makes sense if it is for lost earnings due to being injured.....that I can get behind for these guys, but please stop with the "they don't get paid enough" and "the promotors need to handle it for them" etc. They CHOOSE to ride dirt bikes for a living just like you and I choose what we do.
Yes riders should insure themselves. They know the risks. But, that doesn’t change the fact that Feld/MX sports could set up a fund to help with this stuff or pay for a group plan similar to the one I mentioned above. The UFC does it for 800-1000 fighters. Surely our sport can figure it out for 80-120 riders.
Most UFC fighters are making under 100k a year just like Moto dudes. This should be something the carnival barkers at Feld and MX sport provide.
In the current situation should all riders have their own healthcare? Yes.
Should the current situation be changed drastically by the promotors of the top promotions of our sport? Also yes.
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