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OrangeJuice158 wrote:
Possible they were not empty?
So that's were my bloody Amazon delivery went too?Angry Angry Tongue Woohoo
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Tough blocks are bulky and expensive to transport. They have their own truck and trailer in the Feld traveling circus. Cardboard boxes fold up and are cheaper to transport or just purchase locally. Those weren't a safety innovation, they were a cost cutting measure.
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GrapeApe 10/10/2022 7:45am
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Yes it is.
Jonny Crash wrote:
No it's not. The UK isn't part of Europe
davis224 wrote:
Can you elaborate on that? Did I miss a massive earthquake?
After Brexit the UK became a part of Antarctica
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Jonny Crash wrote:
Wales isn't a European country
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Yes it is.
Jonny Crash wrote:
No it's not. The UK isn't part of Europe
It’s not part of the EU! We’re still in Europe Blink
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8tensolutions 10/10/2022 7:52am
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Rotaholic wrote:
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10...
I wish everyone would park their egos for a minute and just think about the kids. How fricken cool would it have been to be 10 years old in Wales and seeing Ken Roczen and Eli Tomac throw down right in front of you. Memories for life!
Jason XCmtb wrote:
Exactly this. All you get on this forum is how great SX is, and someone over here had the balls to try and put one on...
Exactly this.

All you get on this forum is how great SX is, and someone over here had the balls to try and put one on, and the amount of shit thrown at it on here is unreal. Some of it needs improving, but a lot of it was great for a first attempt. They put their money where their mouth is in the middle of an economic meltdown, and the crowd came out and supported it. The reaction over here has been pretty much very positive.

As for the calibre of riders, they can only put on a show with the riders who agree to show up. The first French SX races in the '80's were probably a bit ropey too, but look how it grew into something bigger and how fast their riders became. Thousands of kids went away from Cardiff wanting to ride a supercross, but how many will read the sneering on here and have second thoughts?

As for the track; it was 3 ft wider than most AMA tracks and the lap times weren't far off them either, and you guys spend all SX season moaning about the AMA tracks anyway.. The coverage? Yeah, you guys shit on the AMA coverage all season long too. And how many threads have there been on here shitting on the AMA SX commentators..?

Big stadiums like Cardiff can be counted on the fingers of one hand over here, and the fact the organisers got a Supercross onto the hallowed turf can't be underestimated.

It wasn't perfect but for a first attempt it was a bloody good one.

The whole issue is not that they held a race or whatever other factors you want to share. Yes, it is awesome kids over there got to see Roczen and Tomac along with all the other badass pros. They have had those opportunities for years with the other off season race and those have been arguably better run than this one.

The problem is the promotors are intentionally trying to compare their "series" that was supposed to be 5 races (now 2) and 10 next year (now 8 and dropping) with the established premier SX series in the world and run it directly against the premier outdoor series. They have tried to recruit riders and teams from a Feld event directly saying they will be the best blah blah and then show up with this glorified fair race. They should have just created a 5 continent off season series from October-December. That may have actually worked, but still would not get the best as the factories clearly aren't interested.
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ATKpilot99 10/10/2022 8:28am
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Yes it is.
Jonny Crash wrote:
No it's not. The UK isn't part of Europe
RG1 wrote:
It’s not part of the EU! We’re still in Europe Blink
I thought you were a land locked island Wink
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could...
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could of been some heavy hits so using empty cardboard boxes should be a safety issue brought up to FIM and riders should be upset about that also also. I know I talk about pages back but the photo looks to be deleted and I think this should really be here because it is a major safety issue.
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Moto_Geek 10/10/2022 8:55am
10/10/2022 8:55am Edited Date/Time 10/10/2022 8:58am
I liked it, but I admit, I fast forwarded to the last 3 races of SX1. The 3 race short laps format felt a lot like Arenacross to me. But it does give a better shot to someone not factory bike to get a good start and claim a podium or even win a race. And common the AMA was not their to ruin it.. LOL..

Bottomline: More SX on TV is a win to me. Descent first rider roster for a first WSX. I was happy FS1 covered it so I didn't have to purchase some janky streaming package. You are all to critical for a first attempt at WORLD SX. Let's see if they fix some of the things that did go wrong, but still entertaining.

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Not a shit show. The track sucked, and we didn't have a full field of top-flight riders. Maybe that will get better, maybe not. In any case, serving markets that don't have an AMA Supercross is better than nothing. But it isn't comparable to AMA Supercross yet.
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JustMX 10/10/2022 9:43am
10/10/2022 9:43am Edited Date/Time 10/10/2022 9:55am
so....

in a discussion about WSX an argument breaks out between 6 people from Great Britian (jason Xmtb, RG1, Jonny Crash, thisusernamavailable, twigster, and King george _III), a canadian (NS503) and an American (davis224) about whether or not Wales is part of Europe.

What is really funny is the Brits are arguing both sides.

only on VitalMX.

I love all you guys....

Maybe Winston Churchhill Can Clarify it for us. He Said “We are with Europe, but not of it”

um....ok....thanks for clearing that up Winston

When asked what he thought of WSX, he had no comment.

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Thisusernameisavailable 10/10/2022 9:47am
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could...
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could of been some heavy hits so using empty cardboard boxes should be a safety issue brought up to FIM and riders should be upset about that also also. I know I talk about pages back but the photo looks to be deleted and I think this should really be here because it is a major safety issue.
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That ain’t a tuff-block, it’s a track marker.

I would bet that the ‘tuff-blocks’ that were in position to protect from hard structures were proper tuff-blocks.
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RightHookNoCandy 10/10/2022 9:55am
10/10/2022 9:55am
Racerman967 wrote:
Well it is like enlarged Arenacross track
This is hilarious to me. Laptimes were 45 ish secs, (some up towards 50).

The last AMA Supercross Race that happened the fast lap was 47 seconds lol.

I am not saying the track was anything spectacular by any means but it wasn't an arenacross track. There was a quad also.
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Jason XCmtb 10/10/2022 10:04am
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JustMX wrote:
so.... in a discussion about WSX an argument breaks out between 6 people from Great Britian (jason Xmtb, RG1, Jonny Crash, thisusernamavailable, twigster, and King george...
so....

in a discussion about WSX an argument breaks out between 6 people from Great Britian (jason Xmtb, RG1, Jonny Crash, thisusernamavailable, twigster, and King george _III), a canadian (NS503) and an American (davis224) about whether or not Wales is part of Europe.

What is really funny is the Brits are arguing both sides.

only on VitalMX.

I love all you guys....

Maybe Winston Churchhill Can Clarify it for us. He Said “We are with Europe, but not of it”

um....ok....thanks for clearing that up Winston

When asked what he thought of WSX, he had no comment.

Haha! I think there's only one guy in the "it's not part of Europe" camp lol

The Churchill quote reminds me of a British newspaper headline from the early 1900's; "Heavy Fog in the Channel - Europe Cut Off" Laughing
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RightHookNoCandy 10/10/2022 10:07am
10/10/2022 10:07am
SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Bunch of negative Nancy's on here. Rather just bitch n moan about everything anymore.

Hammer 663s wrote:
Nope. Busy with life. Don’t have time to waste on third rate crap like this. It’s freaking perfect riding weather so I will ride. See you...
Nope. Busy with life. Don’t have time to waste on third rate crap like this. It’s freaking perfect riding weather so I will ride. See you at A1!
True. You don't have time to watch it but instead you watch it AND come on a forum and complain about how its too bad to watch. Must be sitting in your lawn chair between your moto's.
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OrangeJuice158 10/10/2022 10:35am
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Add geography to the vital list of in house expertise.
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Twigster 10/10/2022 10:58am
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JustMX wrote:
so.... in a discussion about WSX an argument breaks out between 6 people from Great Britian (jason Xmtb, RG1, Jonny Crash, thisusernamavailable, twigster, and King george...
so....

in a discussion about WSX an argument breaks out between 6 people from Great Britian (jason Xmtb, RG1, Jonny Crash, thisusernamavailable, twigster, and King george _III), a canadian (NS503) and an American (davis224) about whether or not Wales is part of Europe.

What is really funny is the Brits are arguing both sides.

only on VitalMX.

I love all you guys....

Maybe Winston Churchhill Can Clarify it for us. He Said “We are with Europe, but not of it”

um....ok....thanks for clearing that up Winston

When asked what he thought of WSX, he had no comment.

If you think that’s complicated, wait and see if Wales and Scotland leave the UK and rejoin the EU leaving England as the only bit in Europe that’s not part of the European Union… 🤣

Being serious, I think there’s only one person having an argument the rest of us are just worried for the results of his geography exam 😂😂

Back to WSX, it’s also saying something it hasn’t been picked up on major news channels at all over here, not even in the usual ‘puff piece’ style. I haven’t checked the tabloid news sites but BBC and ITV didn’t even tell people it was on. The sport over here is surviving in spite of the governing bodies, not because of them…
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Hammer 663s 10/10/2022 11:20am
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SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Bunch of negative Nancy's on here. Rather just bitch n moan about everything anymore.

Hammer 663s wrote:
Nope. Busy with life. Don’t have time to waste on third rate crap like this. It’s freaking perfect riding weather so I will ride. See you...
Nope. Busy with life. Don’t have time to waste on third rate crap like this. It’s freaking perfect riding weather so I will ride. See you at A1!
RightHookNoCandy wrote:
True. You don't have time to watch it but instead you watch it AND come on a forum and complain about how its too bad to...
True. You don't have time to watch it but instead you watch it AND come on a forum and complain about how its too bad to watch. Must be sitting in your lawn chair between your moto's.
I watched it Sunday evening after I finished cleaning and putting the toy hauler away for the winter. And after I'd washed 3 bikes. Was hopeful it would be worth watching, and IMHO it was not. Many here have already listed the reasons. So I won't watch it again, even for free, and I sure as hell won't pay to watch it.
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LappedU 10/10/2022 11:50am
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A bunch of guys coming out of retirement, has beens and never was, euro guys who never saw a SX track. Tomac and Roczen were the only top riders there, and 6 lap races on a 45 sec track, miniature start straight, they tried this world SX thing a few times and it never took off looks like a repeatSad
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Magoofan 10/10/2022 3:10pm
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Just coined a new phrase: WSX = Wannabe Supercross.

Carry on.

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MXMattii 10/10/2022 4:02pm
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could...
Did any reporters ask why they were using empty cardboard boxes as tough boxes ? I seen over here the tough boxes soak up what could of been some heavy hits so using empty cardboard boxes should be a safety issue brought up to FIM and riders should be upset about that also also. I know I talk about pages back but the photo looks to be deleted and I think this should really be here because it is a major safety issue.
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
That ain’t a tuff-block, it’s a track marker.

I would bet that the ‘tuff-blocks’ that were in position to protect from hard structures were proper tuff-blocks.
Never understood why organizations from Cycling races to Supercross, and from Rally to Real Road Racing aren't using Air Protekt more. They have almost everything, and if they haven't it they will build it for you. I remember such air-tuffblocks saving Weimer, Hahn and some others from hard impacts at Bercy.
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bigk218 10/10/2022 5:21pm
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Have we forgotten how the FIM held back our series for decades. Now all of the sudden the media is swinging from their sack
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RaceFace58 10/10/2022 5:50pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
Tough blocks are bulky and expensive to transport. They have their own truck and trailer in the Feld traveling circus. Cardboard boxes fold up and are...
Tough blocks are bulky and expensive to transport. They have their own truck and trailer in the Feld traveling circus. Cardboard boxes fold up and are cheaper to transport or just purchase locally. Those weren't a safety innovation, they were a cost cutting measure.
And a perfect microcosm of how 2nd rate this attempt to blow the Supercross world on its ear this was. Those like me who were negative going in only had our thoughts emboldened. They had a chance to impress but even the positive people are saying things like “Rome wasn’t built in a day” and “it can only get better”. Looking at the payouts that $250k disappears pretty quickly. Hearing that riders are riding for purse only on a team is something I didn’t expect to hear. Where is this $1 million per team fund I heard about when this was announced? This was supposed to be big paydays for everyone involved according to the hype I heard.
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Thisusernameisavailable 10/10/2022 7:46pm
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bigk218 wrote:
Have we forgotten how the FIM held back our series for decades. Now all of the sudden the media is swinging from their sack
What did they do to hold it back?
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OrangeJuice158 10/10/2022 7:50pm
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bigk218 wrote:
Have we forgotten how the FIM held back our series for decades. Now all of the sudden the media is swinging from their sack
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What did they do to hold it back?
Incompetent management of banned substances is the main thing but it sounds like they were difficult to work with in multiple levels.
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Zycki11 10/10/2022 8:31pm
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CPR wrote:
Was it perfect? No. But who genuinely expected it to be first time around? Whinging about it not living up to the advertised hype? Do you...
Was it perfect? No. But who genuinely expected it to be first time around?
Whinging about it not living up to the advertised hype? Do you actually expect promoters to talk it down?
Was it entertaining? Hell yes. Will it get better? I’d expect so.
Bring on the Aussie round.
I would expect it to be professional just like any business because that is what they are at the end of the day. I am glad I got to watch it for free on YouTube, I would not pay for this like I did the Des Nations. In the end, I don’t personally feel it was a success. I personally feel it’s a poor model, and overall I would give it a D quality based on metal ramps, track design, and safety.

Now, they know what they have to work on but from the business standpoint or grand opening aspect it wasn’t good and i hope they can shore it up and come out swinging at round 2 er I mean the finale my bad
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Homounculus 10/10/2022 8:31pm
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LappedU wrote:
A bunch of guys coming out of retirement, has beens and never was, euro guys who never saw a SX track. Tomac and Roczen were the...
A bunch of guys coming out of retirement, has beens and never was, euro guys who never saw a SX track. Tomac and Roczen were the only top riders there, and 6 lap races on a 45 sec track, miniature start straight, they tried this world SX thing a few times and it never took off looks like a repeatSad
Savatgy, Brayton, Reed Friese, Ramette and 20 others are names to many.
Fact is the standard was quite close to AMA SX and many who were disparaging and negative are now coming around to offer suggestions for improvement, up though often disguised as criticism.
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LouisianaMotocross 10/10/2022 8:54pm
10/10/2022 8:54pm Edited Date/Time 10/10/2022 8:55pm
LappedU wrote:
A bunch of guys coming out of retirement, has beens and never was, euro guys who never saw a SX track. Tomac and Roczen were the...
A bunch of guys coming out of retirement, has beens and never was, euro guys who never saw a SX track. Tomac and Roczen were the only top riders there, and 6 lap races on a 45 sec track, miniature start straight, they tried this world SX thing a few times and it never took off looks like a repeatSad
Homounculus wrote:
Savatgy, Brayton, Reed Friese, Ramette and 20 others are names to many. Fact is the standard was quite close to AMA SX and many who were...
Savatgy, Brayton, Reed Friese, Ramette and 20 others are names to many.
Fact is the standard was quite close to AMA SX and many who were disparaging and negative are now coming around to offer suggestions for improvement, up though often disguised as criticism.
This is going to sound bad but I actually don’t mean it in a negative. I was fairly against it at first because I thought it could actually compete with pro motocross. After time and the first event, it’s evident to me the top American riders will not race this series. With that said, I’m excited for more racing and giving the tier 2 guys more opportunities to make
Money.
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