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No, no, no Jeffro. I respect you and your thoughts on this forum but do not compare this to the American invasion of Iraq. It seems...
No, no, no Jeffro. I respect you and your thoughts on this forum but do not compare this to the American invasion of Iraq. It seems like you're completely off base in this topic.

I understand the logic behind not liking how individual Russian athletes are treated right now but i disagree. Take public stance against Putin and the people supporting him and we can talk. Otherwise, too bad.

Google Massacre in Bucha. Google Russian support in Germany. Google history of sport in Russia. People has to wake up and stop thinking there is only one guy to blame (people are starting to realize that now). The Russian athletes will be "collateral casualties" in the fight against the dictatorship, terrorists and rapists. It sucks for those who oppose this but that is a price they unfortunately will have to pay for the greater good.

I do feel bad for Bobby if he truly opposes the regime and its enablers. Anyways, this is the last post from me on this topic.
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Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians...
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians? Dry
Not with the thought of extending our borders.

Yes USA has done some stupid shit but trying to claim land is BS
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Joey_Bridges 4/5/2022 5:17am
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Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship....
Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc..
Absolutely a tough decision to make.
But in the long term, does anyone think in a post putin Russia, that they will have a benevolent leader ??

Their international banning is an attempt to turn the Russian people against putin.
Not sure I agree with the tactic.
But it's being done whether we like it or not.
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Bobryshev may feel like a victim of this conflict…..

But compared to the civilians that are laying dead in the streets of Ukraine, he’ll be just fine in the end.

Of all the ‘victims of war’, this really should be the very least one that demands attention.
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Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
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Joey_Bridges 4/5/2022 5:32am
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Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...
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I understand you Jeffro, and I understand peoples, who lives by Russian borders.

For example, Ukrainian biatlonist Pidruznyj says:

"Since the beginning of the war, only one Russian athlete has written to me to tell me that he is ashamed of what his country is doing, but he is afraid for himself and his family, and therefore he does not express himself publicly.

For me, the silence from Russian and Belarusian athletes means that they have chosen to support the war," Pidruchny said.

I believe that the majority of the Russian population supports Putin. Why? Because they have his brains washed from Russian propaganda.

We (in Czech Republic) have 40 years under Soviet occupation in history and we know best, that a lie repeated 100 times becomes true.

And that's why we should all throw them in one bag.

The Russian people have to say: wait ... what's wrong ... why we have sanctions, why we can't race, we only have a "Special Operation". So, who is actually lying to us here ???

That's why Bobby can't race, he has to help change public opinion at home.

Jeffro, I suspect you are a smart person, but we here in Europe see the situation from a different perspective.
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Johnny Ringo 4/5/2022 5:48am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
Joey_Bridges wrote:
Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...
I’m just saying…if we want to isolate the evil countries let’s at least be consistent…
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Johnny Ringo 4/5/2022 6:17am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
Joey_Bridges wrote:
Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...

Edited, not worth it and this argument is one where no one wins. Back to the moto threads for me
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This shit pisses me off! Keep this God damn political shit out of our forum is all I ask.
Its more humanitarian than political. The entire world is united on what russia is doing.
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quadzrulebro 4/5/2022 6:24am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
Joey_Bridges wrote:
Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
I’m just saying…if we want to isolate the evil countries let’s at least be consistent…
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta compare apples to apples. Russia and China have both been know to mistreat people within their borders. What is going on currently is a whole different level. If the US invaded Canada and claimed it as theirs, I would expect similar sanctions against the US.
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Wow I had no idea that vital mx had such a hidden wealth of geopolitics experts on its board! I feel like I’m running a CNN plugin in my browser every time something political comes up on this site lol
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It’s a lose/lose situation for Bobrychev. Regardless of what his feelings are on the war, he can’t give his honest feelings on the matter. If he is pro-war, he will be blackballed outside of Russia… if he against the war, the Russian government will likely target him and his family. For reference, look at Alex Ovechkin… his IG has been silent since the war begin. And his profile picture is one of him and Putin, but there are reports that their affiliation is “forced.” Hard to know what to believe.

If you aren’t aware and up to date with what’s going on in Ukraine, I encourage you to start doing some research. This is shit that I never would’ve believed I’d see in my lifetime.
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Johnny Ringo 4/5/2022 6:30am
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Joey_Bridges wrote:
Good point.
Certainly didn't take long for F1 to put them back on the GP schedule.

And we all know...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
I’m just saying…if we want to isolate the evil countries let’s at least be consistent…
quadzrulebro wrote:
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta...
If China were to invade a sovereign country and kill thousands in a land grab, I would fully expect the FIM to ban their athletes. Gotta compare apples to apples. Russia and China have both been know to mistreat people within their borders. What is going on currently is a whole different level. If the US invaded Canada and claimed it as theirs, I would expect similar sanctions against the US.
Edited, not worth it and this argument is one where no one wins. Back to the moto threads for me
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Joey_Bridges wrote:
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship.... Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc.. Absolutely a tough decision to make. But in...
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship....
Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc..
Absolutely a tough decision to make.
But in the long term, does anyone think in a post putin Russia, that they will have a benevolent leader ??

Their international banning is an attempt to turn the Russian people against putin.
Not sure I agree with the tactic.
But it's being done whether we like it or not.
Funny thing is, he and his wife have official Dutch documents...
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Bobrychev is unfortunately stuck in the wrong time, wrong place scenario. Obviously this premeditated, unprovoked invasion of another country, decimating it's infrastructure and killing innocent civilians-not to mention the 4 million people that have fled the terror of war. Don't forget that Russia had a state sponsored international doping program-I mean...cheating still goes on in sport around the world but it driven by the individual, not the dang state!

Bottom line, every pressure that is put on Russia is designed to starve them out politically and economically until they get out of Ukraine without sparking a nuclear war. When that does happen, that little fucker Putin should be forced to pay for all the shit he broke over the course of this action.

So, for now, unfortunately Bobby is painted with the same brush.
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Unless Russian Bob is on record as supporting the invasion of the Ukraine, then he absolutely should not be discriminated against. Can anyone rationally tell me...
Unless Russian Bob is on record as supporting the invasion of the Ukraine, then he absolutely should not be discriminated against.
Can anyone rationally tell me what that achieves, or how it is going to have any effect on the situation over there?
One of the aims of sanctions, whether they be on oligarchs or pro athletes, is that it is meant to encourage those individuals to put pressure on the Russian government to stop the war.

Whether that has any effect who knows but that's the logic behind it.
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CPR wrote:
Unless Russian Bob is on record as supporting the invasion of the Ukraine, then he absolutely should not be discriminated against. Can anyone rationally tell me...
Unless Russian Bob is on record as supporting the invasion of the Ukraine, then he absolutely should not be discriminated against.
Can anyone rationally tell me what that achieves, or how it is going to have any effect on the situation over there?
Elliot wrote:
One of the aims of sanctions, whether they be on oligarchs or pro athletes, is that it is meant to encourage those individuals to put pressure...
One of the aims of sanctions, whether they be on oligarchs or pro athletes, is that it is meant to encourage those individuals to put pressure on the Russian government to stop the war.

Whether that has any effect who knows but that's the logic behind it.
You think Putin gives a fuck if Bobby races?
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GrapeApe 4/5/2022 8:44am
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Wow I had no idea that vital mx had such a hidden wealth of geopolitics experts on its board! I feel like I’m running a CNN...
Wow I had no idea that vital mx had such a hidden wealth of geopolitics experts on its board! I feel like I’m running a CNN plugin in my browser every time something political comes up on this site lol
What did Nick Fuentes direct you to think about this, Groyper?
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Joey_Bridges wrote:
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship.... Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc.. Absolutely a tough decision to make. But in...
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship....
Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc..
Absolutely a tough decision to make.
But in the long term, does anyone think in a post putin Russia, that they will have a benevolent leader ??

Their international banning is an attempt to turn the Russian people against putin.
Not sure I agree with the tactic.
But it's being done whether we like it or not.
MXMattii wrote:
Funny thing is, he and his wife have official Dutch documents...
This is actually incorrect. His wife and kids have Dutch Passports, however, Bobby doesnt. If he did, he would have no problem getting his license. The thing is, he has lived in The Netherlands as long as he lived in Russia. He does not support the war, and as far as I know, I dont think he has ever really backed Putin in anything, he just wants to ride his dirt bike. I believe his wife actually renounce Russian citizenship just a few weeks ago as well.

It is amazing how the Russian hockey players are still allowed to play, even though they are under a much much larger spotlight than the 3 Russian MX racers this is affecting. Hopefully DC can come in here an shed some light on this.
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defeatist45 4/5/2022 9:27am
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Goon645 wrote:
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians...
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians? Dry
You’ve got no right to speak on invasions lol also not sure that the US has been committing genocide
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Goon645 wrote:
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians...
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians? Dry
We’ve done that quite a bit. What’s your point?
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Glowie wrote:
Wow I had no idea that vital mx had such a hidden wealth of geopolitics experts on its board! I feel like I’m running a CNN...
Wow I had no idea that vital mx had such a hidden wealth of geopolitics experts on its board! I feel like I’m running a CNN plugin in my browser every time something political comes up on this site lol
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What did Nick Fuentes direct you to think about this, Groyper?
On par for you to think I take talking points from other people. However, I do not outsource my critical thinking. I don’t know his opinion on it.
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Russian and Belarus based teams have been banned from hockey competitions. As far as the NHL, you think they should take Russian people who already live in the US for years/decades and ban them from competition?
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Goon645 wrote:
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians...
Yemen to tell me that the US Govt has never invaded a sovereign country on false pretext and as a result caused harm to innocent civilians? Dry
defeatist45 wrote:
You’ve got no right to speak on invasions lol also not sure that the US has been committing genocide
Who’s doing a genocide?
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Wonder if a Chinese rider would be denied a license. Probably not
great point just wait till china goes in Taiwan this month how will they spin that
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Joey_Bridges wrote:
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship.... Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc.. Absolutely a tough decision to make. But in...
Perhaps if he were to renounce his Russian citizenship....
Same goes for any other athlete, artist, tradesman, etc..
Absolutely a tough decision to make.
But in the long term, does anyone think in a post putin Russia, that they will have a benevolent leader ??

Their international banning is an attempt to turn the Russian people against putin.
Not sure I agree with the tactic.
But it's being done whether we like it or not.
MXMattii wrote:
Funny thing is, he and his wife have official Dutch documents...
Renner153 wrote:
This is actually incorrect. His wife and kids have Dutch Passports, however, Bobby doesnt. If he did, he would have no problem getting his license. The...
This is actually incorrect. His wife and kids have Dutch Passports, however, Bobby doesnt. If he did, he would have no problem getting his license. The thing is, he has lived in The Netherlands as long as he lived in Russia. He does not support the war, and as far as I know, I dont think he has ever really backed Putin in anything, he just wants to ride his dirt bike. I believe his wife actually renounce Russian citizenship just a few weeks ago as well.

It is amazing how the Russian hockey players are still allowed to play, even though they are under a much much larger spotlight than the 3 Russian MX racers this is affecting. Hopefully DC can come in here an shed some light on this.
Wow, if that's true and he still can't ride that just makes this even more sad
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Bonanza69 4/5/2022 9:54am
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Not with the thought of extending our borders.

Yes USA has done some stupid shit but trying to claim land is BS
…….extending….borders!?Not only,Putin‘s plan is to destabilize the EU…….!
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C.Worthy 4/5/2022 10:25am
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You think Putin gives a fuck if Bobby races?
Yea bro Putin was waiting to see the AMA's decision to determine if he's going to end the war
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FGR01 4/5/2022 10:52am
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Some of you have never watched UNBROKEN and it shows.
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