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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 12:26pm
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50% cut in salaries!!

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rc4187 7/7/2009 7:18pm
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well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
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Cool the GPs will become a feeder series for the US .
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There'll be less money going around here as well.
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Good article.

Did he say KTM is racing a 350? Doh!

The money for top guys in the US is drying up too, and less spots will be available.

After years of inflation and bidding higher and higher to get top guys like James and RC, the trend has hit the ceiling and crashed to earth. Sux.

Usually by round 3/4 next year's silly season is sorting itself out, and by Red Bud most of the details are out. I haven't seen any write-ups like Jiff's for the US yet. That's because there isn't much good news to report.

The few top guys that still have a year to go on contract are very lucky, and have kept top teams from parking the semis. KTM has already pulled out.

US silly season will sort itself out late in the game and it might end up with the new price-point about 50% of what it was as well-unless they are bluffing and just holding out till the end.

So far it looks like the big teams will go racing with less semis and fewer factory riders (and fewer expensive factory bike deals with Japan). The support teams will have a lot of talent to pick from.

Things always sort out in the end. It's just going to happen late and with a lot less money spent.

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FreshTopEnd wrote:
There'll be less money going around here as well.
Cool , death of the SX only contracts.
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rc4187 wrote:
well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
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Yeah, this won't be a "Euro Only" issue

It's a different game now, in many many ways


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youthstream really have bled that series dry- i went to the British GP, the mag write ups were saying the promoter lost money the year before and really took it in the shorts this year. how can Budds creek run an MXDN and still loose money?????

there is only one guy making $$$$ in GPs and we know who that is- all these bogus GP rounds scheduled are lame too- Longuo is modeling GPs like F1 and F1 is a farce, and the only one thing keeping that going is some deep pockets.
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rc4187 wrote:
well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end of the year.
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flarider wrote:
Yeah, this won't be a "Euro Only" issue

It's a different game now, in many many ways


Cool , no more mailing it in for 1.5 Million a year
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Bruce372 wrote:
youthstream really have bled that series dry- i went to the British GP, the mag write ups were saying the promoter lost money the year before...
youthstream really have bled that series dry- i went to the British GP, the mag write ups were saying the promoter lost money the year before and really took it in the shorts this year. how can Budds creek run an MXDN and still loose money?????

there is only one guy making $$$$ in GPs and we know who that is- all these bogus GP rounds scheduled are lame too- Longuo is modeling GPs like F1 and F1 is a farce, and the only one thing keeping that going is some deep pockets.
Budds made a killing.

You are speaking Octopus.

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flarider wrote:
Yeah, this won't be a "Euro Only" issue

It's a different game now, in many many ways


it was those damn pesky envrio parents and that damn lead shit that ruined it all....sheesh.
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rc4187 wrote:
well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
Nerd wrote:
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end...
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end of the year.
Doh!

I heard there was a recent rule change on that, but you would know more than me, since I'm just an outsider...

Either way, I can't see him jumping right into 450s with James and Chad. It takes three years to catch up and ride SX at that intensity, unless your name is MC (or Chad).
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Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
Nerd wrote:
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end...
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end of the year.
Racetime wrote:
Doh! I heard there was a recent rule change on that, but you would know more than me, since I'm just an outsider... Either way, I...
Doh!

I heard there was a recent rule change on that, but you would know more than me, since I'm just an outsider...

Either way, I can't see him jumping right into 450s with James and Chad. It takes three years to catch up and ride SX at that intensity, unless your name is MC (or Chad).
You hear a lot of things that seem to be wrong. Odd...
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
There'll be less money going around here as well.
MXR wrote:
Cool , death of the SX only contracts.
Don't kid yourself. The OEMs didn't think they were getting their bang for their buck at the outdoor series before this shitty economy hit. It could end up being the opposite and the OEMs wanting to only do the supercross series.
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rc4187 wrote:
well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
Don't think it's going to be any better here in the USA. All contracts will be cut 50% world wide.
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Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market.

My guess is that Pourcel will do okay. Searle has only gotten faster (and attracted more attention) throughout the series. Rattray? I'd guess he'll do okay, despite breaking a thumb last weekend.

The last time I talked to the Muscle Milk MDK KTM guys, they were chasing some sponsorship for next season, and expected to be okay. They were also looking forward to racing the 350 (with linkage).

Fewer semis? Yeah. Lower salaries? Yes again. Is it a product of how the races are run? Not really.

It's the economy.
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GuyB wrote:
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market. My guess is that...
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market.

My guess is that Pourcel will do okay. Searle has only gotten faster (and attracted more attention) throughout the series. Rattray? I'd guess he'll do okay, despite breaking a thumb last weekend.

The last time I talked to the Muscle Milk MDK KTM guys, they were chasing some sponsorship for next season, and expected to be okay. They were also looking forward to racing the 350 (with linkage).

Fewer semis? Yeah. Lower salaries? Yes again. Is it a product of how the races are run? Not really.

It's the economy.
That is good to hear. I would hate to not see any KTM's out there, linkage or not.

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Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
Nerd wrote:
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end...
Former MX2 champs don't have to start in 450s, but former MX1 champs do, and he looks likely to be one of those by the end of the year.
Racetime wrote:
Doh! I heard there was a recent rule change on that, but you would know more than me, since I'm just an outsider... Either way, I...
Doh!

I heard there was a recent rule change on that, but you would know more than me, since I'm just an outsider...

Either way, I can't see him jumping right into 450s with James and Chad. It takes three years to catch up and ride SX at that intensity, unless your name is MC (or Chad).
'IF' Cairoli moves across, it will be to ride a 450.

Ok it may not mean such a great deal, but Cairoli is a two time European SX champ and probably the best Supercross rider from over here, bar Pourcel. TC is also sensible enough to know he has still has alot to learn in that department and would probably rather admit that than step back down and hide in the 250's.

I dont think you can expect many ex GP riders to compete for race wins or even podiums in SX in America straight off the bat. Pourcel is just exception.
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Hows this!!

Yamaha US Corp gets Cairoli (Red Bull dollars) as Hill and Hepler just haven't had the results, yeh podium and win here and there but not enuff. Cairoli doesn't do the SX series for the first year because Yamaha has JS1 to get the title again. Yamaha's 2nd rider mmmmikey?????
This is just a guess probably like 98% of the peoples on heres rumours
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GuyB wrote:
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market. My guess is that...
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market.

My guess is that Pourcel will do okay. Searle has only gotten faster (and attracted more attention) throughout the series. Rattray? I'd guess he'll do okay, despite breaking a thumb last weekend.

The last time I talked to the Muscle Milk MDK KTM guys, they were chasing some sponsorship for next season, and expected to be okay. They were also looking forward to racing the 350 (with linkage).

Fewer semis? Yeah. Lower salaries? Yes again. Is it a product of how the races are run? Not really.

It's the economy.
You should stop talkin about how the races are run.

Only us dead people can do that!!

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41NDT wrote:
Hows this!! Yamaha US Corp gets Cairoli (Red Bull dollars) as Hill and Hepler just haven't had the results, yeh podium and win here and there...
Hows this!!

Yamaha US Corp gets Cairoli (Red Bull dollars) as Hill and Hepler just haven't had the results, yeh podium and win here and there but not enuff. Cairoli doesn't do the SX series for the first year because Yamaha has JS1 to get the title again. Yamaha's 2nd rider mmmmikey?????
This is just a guess probably like 98% of the peoples on heres rumours
Nice guess but the RedBull Euros will not keep Cairoli on a Yamaha next year so why would RedBull dollars do that?

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Jefro98 wrote:
Nice guess but the RedBull Euros will not keep Cairoli on a Yamaha next year so why would RedBull dollars do that?

It would be cool to see Tony on L&M Yamaha as James teammate. Smile
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Jefro98 wrote:
Nice guess but the RedBull Euros will not keep Cairoli on a Yamaha next year so why would RedBull dollars do that?

Red Bull and TC will stick together. Yamaha is cutting back and Monster Yamaha has their 2 guys already.

Best guess for TC is KTM, second best guess is Suzuki.
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No matter what happens TC will have options, he's too fast, and too much potential in the US not to have a ride.
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GuyB wrote:
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market. My guess is that...
You hope they didn't buy a house? Huh? The market out where those guys would be buying isn't exactly a seller's market.

My guess is that Pourcel will do okay. Searle has only gotten faster (and attracted more attention) throughout the series. Rattray? I'd guess he'll do okay, despite breaking a thumb last weekend.

The last time I talked to the Muscle Milk MDK KTM guys, they were chasing some sponsorship for next season, and expected to be okay. They were also looking forward to racing the 350 (with linkage).

Fewer semis? Yeah. Lower salaries? Yes again. Is it a product of how the races are run? Not really.

It's the economy.
Which AMA series ( SX, Nats, both ? ) would they race the 350 and how would the rules affect it?

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I can't wait to see how this 350 will do, unless KTM can get a works bike exemption (ala yamaha) they cannot race the 350 here. It would suck to see the big "4" pull some strings to get that denied as it would be a threat to their sales and revenue possibly forcing them to produce one (if the KTM does well)......may prove a quite a few wrong on here too
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Lightning78 wrote:
I can't wait to see how this 350 will do, unless KTM can get a works bike exemption (ala yamaha) they cannot race the 350 here...
I can't wait to see how this 350 will do, unless KTM can get a works bike exemption (ala yamaha) they cannot race the 350 here. It would suck to see the big "4" pull some strings to get that denied as it would be a threat to their sales and revenue possibly forcing them to produce one (if the KTM does well)......may prove a quite a few wrong on here too
If they sell it, they can.
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rc4187 wrote:
well... cairoli did say that salary would be a deciding factor on riding in the usa or not. maybe it'll be sooner rather than later.
Racetime wrote:
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in...
It's more likely that he will end up at KTM or Teka Suzuki. As a former MX2 champion, he will have to start in 450s in SX. He's a great rider but doesn't need to try and start out in SX chasing James and Chad around.

I hope the euros that have made the move recently didn't buy a house....
I hope they did . With the slide of the market , especially in California, if any of those guys buy now and sit on it through a couple of 2 year contracts then sell it before they head back to Europe they'll kill it.

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