Herlings dream do USA nationals

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Edited Date/Time 4/23/2019 1:26pm
"MXlarge: There was talk you would race in America, knowing you a little bit, I can’t imagine that was a goal, because you always had your goals in Europe. What was the case about riding in America?

Herlings: Well, I actually wanted to go, but logistical wise, if something happened to Tony, they would have nobody here in MXGP and three in America, with only Tom Vialle here for KTM. For KTM it wasn’t an option, although I would have dreamt to do it. It was a life time chance I would say, and I had to only spend three months there. I was prepared to do it, but I have an MXGP contract, so we couldn’t make it happen."
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DPR250R 4/19/2019 4:30am
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I think he meant it was a once in a lifetime chance to do it. He dreamt about it after after the opportunity arose.

Shame it won’t happen. Maybe sometime in the future.
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4DAIVIPAI2K5 4/19/2019 4:32am
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Man, it would have been EPIC!
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Kawi15 4/19/2019 4:41am
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I am a little surprised by that, but I can see his point.
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EPIC is next year with Prado in MXGP
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wreckitrandy 4/19/2019 4:49am
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All that rumor was, was a Vulcan mind meld to mess with Tomac's head. Brilliantly conceived by DeCoster.
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Sonny 4/19/2019 6:27am
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Swap out Marvin for him for an outdoor season. IDK maybe
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r18b 4/19/2019 6:42am
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He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and enjoy it.
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FuzzyLogic 4/19/2019 6:55am
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r18b wrote:
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and...
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and enjoy it.
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
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Baton Rouge 4/19/2019 8:29am
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I blamed KTM at first but honestly i doubt he would have been ready for Hangtown with his foot injury.

He just said it himself, he is not even sure to ride for a top 10 when he returns in May.

The timing is just not right and it's a shame, i would have loved see him battle Tomac all summer long.
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Gandorlf 4/19/2019 9:46am
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And there's me thinking I'd seen the last of the Hetlings USA threads..
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zehn 4/19/2019 10:00am
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Gandorlf wrote:
And there's me thinking I'd seen the last of the Hetlings USA threads..

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Jerkolantern 4/19/2019 10:12am
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I see a nest, some eggs, looks like a chicken with orange n black feathers....
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RichardLoots 4/19/2019 11:10am
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ready for a scooter race ? i hope Cairoli gets that title as early as possible so there is a possibilty for Herlings to race a or more AMA races late in season ...


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Nuffsaid 4/19/2019 11:20am
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wreckitrandy wrote:
All that rumor was, was a Vulcan mind meld to mess with Tomac's head. Brilliantly conceived by DeCoster.
It worked, Tomac was a mess during the rumor period
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r18b 4/19/2019 12:50pm
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r18b wrote:
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and...
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and enjoy it.
FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
Not his prime so far.. it still has to come.
Gajser riding harder, cairolli. Next year prado is coming over.
MXON you will see it.. even coldenhoff is already saying that at assen it needs to happen. For herlings the only thing what counts in the sand is trying to lap every one or win by so much time that no one will argue any more about it.
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Jrewing 4/19/2019 1:36pm
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Mxlarge doesn’t actually know Herlings.
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ruy wrote:
EPIC is next year with Prado in MXGP
I can see it know, there will not be any pictures of Proado in the 450 hole shot frame as he will already be entering the second corner. His hole shots are awesome!
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WCRider 4/20/2019 9:54am
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Good saturday at Axel.




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BobbyM 4/20/2019 10:53am
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24 and 0 would be my guess.
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WCRider wrote:
Good saturday at Axel. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/20/340610/s1200_P90420_155017.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/20/340609/s1200_P90420_175330.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/20/340611/s1200_P90420_154640.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/20/340612/s1200_P90420_175259.jpg[/img]
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Ranman68 4/23/2019 10:35am
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For me and a lot of people no doubt, it was about seeing Tomac and Herlings going head to head for an entire season while they're both in their prime. I know Herlings is a friggin machine, but Tomac is the current and defending ama champion. He's the champ. This is his series, and these are his tracks. So much pride on the line for Tomac and two badasses with huge egos lining up 12 races in a row would have been epic as hell. Betting against Herlings is pretty crazy, but everybody knows (Herlings included) how ridiculously fast Tomac can be when things are clicking and he's on a mission. There would have been some battles and if Tomac were dialed in, those two would have had some races where they took hauling ass to a new level. That's just what I think and what I wanted to see. Even if Herlings were to just dominate, I still wanted to see him in the series. Damn.
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Jerkolantern 4/23/2019 11:26am
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This^ I hope pit changes his mind. But until then I'm going to keep saying he's chicken in the hopes he reads vital and gets pissed enough to beg them to let him come over. I'm dreaming I know, but a guy can dream can't he? I honestly think those two are the best dirt scooter rider's at the time, and I'm being selfish wanting them to race here
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kage173 4/23/2019 11:37am
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FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
We've already seen that. We have Roczen and Musquin. They both beat Herlings and they both can ride SX, which is a big part of racing in the US.

Obviously, Herlings is great at MX, but put him through a season of SX and watch his confidence and his bones crumble into pieces. Then let's see how he does in outdoors.

Musquin and Roczen are the perfect representatives of how Europeans will do in the US. We don't need to answer that question.
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RichardLoots 4/23/2019 11:38am
4/23/2019 11:38am Edited Date/Time 4/23/2019 11:44am
r18b wrote:
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and...
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and enjoy it.
FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
Cairoli has almost 10 titles , almost 34 years old and looks better as ever before ..

"in his prime" is relative in this case

Herlings is just 24 , maybe he is even better next season ... what if he wins 4 titles in a row and comes over to race a ama outdoor serie ? would interest be less or more ?


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Jerkolantern 4/23/2019 11:43am
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r18b wrote:
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and...
He still can do it after he have won some mxgp titles. Just like villopoto did. Just before ending his career take a look overseas and enjoy it.
FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
RichardLoots wrote:
Cairoli has almost 10 titles , almost 34 years old and looks better as ever before .. "in his prime" is relative in this case Herlings...
Cairoli has almost 10 titles , almost 34 years old and looks better as ever before ..

"in his prime" is relative in this case

Herlings is just 24 , maybe he is even better next season ... what if he wins 4 titles in a row and comes over to race a ama outdoor serie ? would interest be less or more ?


Cairoli isn't human- that dude shouldn't be as fast as he still is. Hats off
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RichardLoots 4/23/2019 11:49am
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Jerkolantern wrote:
Cairoli isn't human- that dude shouldn't be as fast as he still is. Hats off
exactly my point , when is a rider in his prime ?
GeorgiePorgie 4/23/2019 11:51am
4/23/2019 11:51am Edited Date/Time 4/23/2019 12:02pm
4DAIVIPAI2K5 wrote:
Man, it would have been EPIC!
Woulda been 24-0 epic....


Edit: someone beat me to it.
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Ranman68 4/23/2019 12:06pm
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FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
RichardLoots wrote:
Cairoli has almost 10 titles , almost 34 years old and looks better as ever before .. "in his prime" is relative in this case Herlings...
Cairoli has almost 10 titles , almost 34 years old and looks better as ever before ..

"in his prime" is relative in this case

Herlings is just 24 , maybe he is even better next season ... what if he wins 4 titles in a row and comes over to race a ama outdoor serie ? would interest be less or more ?


Jerkolantern wrote:
Cairoli isn't human- that dude shouldn't be as fast as he still is. Hats off
American riders are so banged up from supercross they are generally on a downhill run when they get in their later twenties. All the training, the testing involved in switching from indoors to outdoors, injuries, rehabbing from injuries, straight into outdoors after the supercross series ends, etc etc etc. They're banged up and burned out on the sport. For the winners and multi time champions, they trained so much for years and have been through so much to get those wins. They reach a point where winning isn't worth it all anymore. Earlier than GP riders. RV was 26 when he retired from all ama racing. Dungey 27. Carmichael 27. Some....like Canard and other great talents, retire young against their own will due to having too many injuries. Look at all the major injuries, surgeries, and rehab that young riders like Cinciarulo will have had before even racing in the premiere class. Ama and mxgp are so drastically different. I wish we had more outdoor racing with some true sand tracks and a shorter sx series. Maybe ama riders' careers would be longer. No doubt they would
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FuzzyLogic 4/23/2019 12:11pm
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Jerkolantern wrote:
Cairoli isn't human- that dude shouldn't be as fast as he still is. Hats off
RichardLoots wrote:
exactly my point , when is a rider in his prime ?
You'll only truly know when a riders prime is after it has happened. The idea of now rather than later is that you reduce the likelihood of injuries and aging...and unknowingly going past that "prime" of his career. This sport is chock full of physical, mental, and mechanical variables. We will never capture multiple guys in peak physical health at the top of the arc in their career on the bike and team they felt the most comfortable with all at the same time on the same track.

The point is Herlings looked REALLY fast last year and nobody really had much for him. We would all love to see how the guys over here would stack up against him for a full national series.
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shaffstall721 4/23/2019 12:22pm
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FuzzyLogic wrote:
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the...
I think the whole idea of wanting him over here is to have the best MXGP guy come over here "in his prime" and race the best Americans. Sure, come over at the twilight of your career, but the interest will be minimalized.
kage173 wrote:
We've already seen that. We have Roczen and Musquin. They both beat Herlings and they both can ride SX, which is a big part of racing...
We've already seen that. We have Roczen and Musquin. They both beat Herlings and they both can ride SX, which is a big part of racing in the US.

Obviously, Herlings is great at MX, but put him through a season of SX and watch his confidence and his bones crumble into pieces. Then let's see how he does in outdoors.

Musquin and Roczen are the perfect representatives of how Europeans will do in the US. We don't need to answer that question.
They beat Herlings when he was 15-16.

Who cares if Herlings would get smoked in SX, the guy is an animal outdoors.

Lastly, Roczen was doing pretty well before he almost lost his arm.

He only lost what 3 motos in 2016?
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