2019 Silly Season

5/8/2018 4:48pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Could end up at JGR.

Personally I hope he doesn't end up at Red Bull KTM. Not a fan of him and I like that team.
dadofagun wrote:
I hope he doesn’t end up there as well..... He isn’t worthy at all.
racerx317 wrote:
I’m pretty sure Webb is enough of a douche that DeCoster wouldn’t have him on that team so I don’t even think that’s even a possibility...
I’m pretty sure Webb is enough of a douche that DeCoster wouldn’t have him on that team so I don’t even think that’s even a possibility. Imo.
In all fairness to Webb... There haven’t been too many riders at that level that have done well on the Yamaha 450. As much as I don’t like Webb, I think he would be much better on another brand. Kawi would probably be a descent fit for him bike-wise and the two biggest whiners could be consolidated to one team. Honda would be a good fit if he wasn’t for his attitude and beef with KRoc. I’m not sure when these kids are going to realize that their attitudes on and off the track will effect contract offers. There is plenty of talent out there without all the drama.

I think his offers will be limited due to his lack of results and poor attitude in the end. He’ll be lucky to be on one of the main factory teams due to those issues.



Webb a Douche turns DeCoster off?
Well lets look at it this way. Roj hired arguably one of the nicest hard working guys in the pits and look where that has gotten him at the moment.

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5/8/2018 8:46pm
mxjon454 wrote:
No Bloss isn't signed with them for next year. I could see Savagty going there. They have factory equipment, you just dont get your own gear...
No Bloss isn't signed with them for next year. I could see Savagty going there. They have factory equipment, you just dont get your own gear money and stuff, but still factory equipment lol there's no TLD guys ready to move up at the moment either.
As per my post above, Savatgy is going to factory kawi next year on a 1 year deal
bvm111 wrote:
I would take grant all day long over savatgy... why would you want that whiner representing the brand.
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why not just keep Josh Grant for another year since he gels with the team and bike? Maybe kawi signs Savagty and then adds AC to make a 3 rider team. Wouldnt be a bad idea.
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5/8/2018 9:29pm
mxjon454 wrote:
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why...
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why not just keep Josh Grant for another year since he gels with the team and bike? Maybe kawi signs Savagty and then adds AC to make a 3 rider team. Wouldnt be a bad idea.
Or they could sign Savatgy to a 2 year deal and drop Eli after 2019 to add AC if he is their heir apparent. Pretty sure Eli’s current Kawasaki deal and AC’s deal expire at the end of 2019.

Kawasaki can be ruthless with their A riders. They dropped Stewart for RV in 2009 after Stew’s 24-0, and RC and Stew didn’t overlap at Factory Kawi either in 2002. They had their heir apparent in both situations and made the move.
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5/8/2018 9:42pm
mxjon454 wrote:
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why...
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why not just keep Josh Grant for another year since he gels with the team and bike? Maybe kawi signs Savagty and then adds AC to make a 3 rider team. Wouldnt be a bad idea.
Or they could sign Savatgy to a 2 year deal and drop Eli after 2019 to add AC if he is their heir apparent. Pretty sure...
Or they could sign Savatgy to a 2 year deal and drop Eli after 2019 to add AC if he is their heir apparent. Pretty sure Eli’s current Kawasaki deal and AC’s deal expire at the end of 2019.

Kawasaki can be ruthless with their A riders. They dropped Stewart for RV in 2009 after Stew’s 24-0, and RC and Stew didn’t overlap at Factory Kawi either in 2002. They had their heir apparent in both situations and made the move.
Wasn’t red bull a big reason James left kawi?
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5/8/2018 10:05pm
mxjon454 wrote:
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why...
I dont think Kawi would sign Savagty just for 1 year then dump him to bump up AC. If they were to do that, then why not just keep Josh Grant for another year since he gels with the team and bike? Maybe kawi signs Savagty and then adds AC to make a 3 rider team. Wouldnt be a bad idea.
Or they could sign Savatgy to a 2 year deal and drop Eli after 2019 to add AC if he is their heir apparent. Pretty sure...
Or they could sign Savatgy to a 2 year deal and drop Eli after 2019 to add AC if he is their heir apparent. Pretty sure Eli’s current Kawasaki deal and AC’s deal expire at the end of 2019.

Kawasaki can be ruthless with their A riders. They dropped Stewart for RV in 2009 after Stew’s 24-0, and RC and Stew didn’t overlap at Factory Kawi either in 2002. They had their heir apparent in both situations and made the move.
Stewart went looking elsewhere ....
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5/8/2018 10:30pm
Stewart went looking elsewhere ....
According to Stewart, he wasn't offered a deal at Kawasaki.

Yes the Red Bull/Monster conflict played a part. But at the end of 2008, the future looked like Stew domination for the foreseeable future. Kawasaki saw it differently.
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5/8/2018 10:43pm
I also feel that Webb is going to be riding for KTM next year, he'll be able to rebuild his career on arguably the best bike with the best trainer. And KTM will probably be able to get him for a good price. Plus he's still young.

I wonder if Roger regrets picking Tickle over Barcia now?
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5/8/2018 11:44pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2018 11:48pm
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
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5/9/2018 2:46am
I can see mookie fitting in with barcia at yamaha
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5/9/2018 4:28am
kawi is dropping eli for ac in 2020? vital at it's best...
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5/9/2018 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/9/2018 10:18pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
JMart is riding 250's next year for Geico again.

I also recall someone saying the Friese has a spot at MCR for as long as he wants to race. I don't think he has a big salary and he gets pretty decent results.
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5/10/2018 12:31am
When is Baggett's contract up? Would like to see him on the Big Red machine with HRC behind him.
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5/10/2018 12:51am
Bigshow wrote:
When is Baggett's contract up? Would like to see him on the Big Red machine with HRC behind him.
He just signed a contract extension with the Rocky Mountain ATV MC KTM Team through 2021.
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5/10/2018 1:58pm
Honda HRC: Roczen / Seely (if he decides to)
MCR/HRC: Brayton / Malcolm / Friese (Supercross Only)
Geico/HRC: J.Martin
Husky: Anderson / Osborne
RB KTM: Webb / Musquin
RM KTM: Baggett / Wilson, Pieck, or Bogle
JGR: Hill / Peick or Wilson
Kawi: Tomac / Grant, Wilson, or Bogle
Yamaha: Barcia / Bogle or Wilson

If you are team here are your options:
A: Webb or Barcia
B: Pieck, Wilson, or Bogle
C: Malcolm, Grant, Friese, Weimer, or Seely
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5/10/2018 2:27pm
Rumor has it Malcolm isnt interested in a factory ride next year


I kid, I kid Laughing

5/10/2018 3:14pm
tprice07 wrote:
Honda HRC: Roczen / Seely (if he decides to) MCR/HRC: Brayton / Malcolm / Friese (Supercross Only) Geico/HRC: J.Martin Husky: Anderson / Osborne RB KTM: Webb...
Honda HRC: Roczen / Seely (if he decides to)
MCR/HRC: Brayton / Malcolm / Friese (Supercross Only)
Geico/HRC: J.Martin
Husky: Anderson / Osborne
RB KTM: Webb / Musquin
RM KTM: Baggett / Wilson, Pieck, or Bogle
JGR: Hill / Peick or Wilson
Kawi: Tomac / Grant, Wilson, or Bogle
Yamaha: Barcia / Bogle or Wilson

If you are team here are your options:
A: Webb or Barcia
B: Pieck, Wilson, or Bogle
C: Malcolm, Grant, Friese, Weimer, or Seely
A) Barcia
Cool Bogle/Peick Hard to choose because Peick doesn't quite, but idk if he can win. Bogle can win outdoors, but is injury prone.
C) Grant or Seely. If Seely comes back to where he was before his injury, he's an easy choice for SX. Grant would be second because he can still win outdoors if everything goes right.
7/15/2018 12:18pm
BigDaddyG wrote:
What’s the scoop on Benny Bloss? While he did good at Vegas I could totally see him on Rock River. That ride backing up Blake would...
What’s the scoop on Benny Bloss? While he did good at Vegas I could totally see him on Rock River. That ride backing up Blake would be a killer ride for a TLD guy to step up into. Or a Savatgy..... or Bloss already signed?
mxjon454 wrote:
No Bloss isn't signed with them for next year. I could see Savagty going there. They have factory equipment, you just dont get your own gear...
No Bloss isn't signed with them for next year. I could see Savagty going there. They have factory equipment, you just dont get your own gear money and stuff, but still factory equipment lol there's no TLD guys ready to move up at the moment either.
As per my post above, Savatgy is going to factory kawi next year on a 1 year deal
What about grant than.? JGR got to run 3 with Bogle Pieck and Hill. I doubt cooper Webb stays blue, prolly looking to go orange, I feel like everybody forgets how fast Webb is, he’s just been broke off.
7/15/2018 12:29pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini bike days. Bogle gonna be good wherever he goes as he will win races next year for sure
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7/15/2018 12:30pm
Savatgy gotta be pumped with that new Kawi
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7/15/2018 1:48pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini...
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini bike days. Bogle gonna be good wherever he goes as he will win races next year for sure
Webb has roots at JGR and KTM. Personally, I'd like to see him go orange next year.
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7/15/2018 7:13pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini...
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini bike days. Bogle gonna be good wherever he goes as he will win races next year for sure
I'd say it seems right, except of the fact that JMart is signed with GEICO through next year, so the chances of KTM buying out his contract hover somewhere around zero. Now, AMart, on the other hand...
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7/15/2018 8:44pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini...
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini bike days. Bogle gonna be good wherever he goes as he will win races next year for sure
Bogle is going to win races next year? I like Bogle, but can't see that happening.
7/15/2018 9:02pm
Wasn't one of the reasons JGR went to Suzuki was the fact that Yamaha created the Factory team to put Webb in there, thereby screwing JGR of putting their home grown talent back in their semi on a Factory Yamaha
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7/15/2018 11:27pm
I heard Honda signed the Alessi brothers.
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Wasn't one of the reasons JGR went to Suzuki was the fact that Yamaha created the Factory team to put Webb in there, thereby screwing JGR...
Wasn't one of the reasons JGR went to Suzuki was the fact that Yamaha created the Factory team to put Webb in there, thereby screwing JGR of putting their home grown talent back in their semi on a Factory Yamaha
Fake News!
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7/15/2018 11:36pm
goonrider wrote:
450 Lineup: Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy Yam - Barcia / Bogle Hon - Roczen / Seely Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick KTM -...
450 Lineup:
Kawi - Tomac / Savatgy
Yam - Barcia / Bogle
Hon - Roczen / Seely
Suz - Hill / Webb / Peick
KTM - Musquin / JMart
Hus - Anderson / Osbourne
MCR - Brayton / Craig / Bowers
RMK - Baggett / Wilson / Grant
TLD - McElrath
CR22 - Reed

450 Fill ins:
Stewart
Freise
Weimer
Bloss

STAMP IT!!!

Savatgy gets the SHIFT gig and Wilson wears FLY
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini...
Seems right except Webb on yellow. Would he really do that? That would be great to see, I know he has roots at JGR from mini bike days. Bogle gonna be good wherever he goes as he will win races next year for sure
Sully wrote:
I'd say it seems right, except of the fact that JMart is signed with GEICO through next year, so the chances of KTM buying out his...
I'd say it seems right, except of the fact that JMart is signed with GEICO through next year, so the chances of KTM buying out his contract hover somewhere around zero. Now, AMart, on the other hand...
AMarts going to JGR for a 250 ride next year. TLD KTM is full which leaves AMart out of a ride. Id like to see him stay put but if Suzuki is coming out with a all new 250 next year, maybe JGR can make that bike compete with the other top 250s.
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7/16/2018 12:25am
mxjon454 wrote:
AMarts going to JGR for a 250 ride next year. TLD KTM is full which leaves AMart out of a ride. Id like to see him...
AMarts going to JGR for a 250 ride next year. TLD KTM is full which leaves AMart out of a ride. Id like to see him stay put but if Suzuki is coming out with a all new 250 next year, maybe JGR can make that bike compete with the other top 250s.
That's right, I forgot about that.
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7/16/2018 12:26am
TeamGreen wrote:
I heard Honda signed the Alessi brothers.
I have a great idea for a t-shirt...
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7/16/2018 7:29am
i'm going to go a stab in the dark and say you'll see Dean Ferris over there next year on Yamaha alongside Barcia
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7/16/2018 7:32am
Webb to KTM
Savatgy to Kawasaki 450
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