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Today it happened on both...
1st on the Main Track and later in the afternoon...on the freshly groomed, watered and very fast Vet Track.
We're taking Milestone.
So, what say you?
I think it's a Safety Problem: coming over a long Huge-Blind jump & there's a kid on a FIFTY in my landing-line...
And a kid on a KX60.
And a kid on a SX65.
Opinions?
I'm not interested in landing on some poor little kid that's jus' trying to ride; but, I'm 52 & these kids are on MY "Old-Guy" track and they're SCARING THE SHIT OUTTA ME when I'm 20 feet up!
1st on the Main Track and later in the afternoon...on the freshly groomed, watered and very fast Vet Track.
We're taking Milestone.
So, what say you?
I think it's a Safety Problem: coming over a long Huge-Blind jump & there's a kid on a FIFTY in my landing-line...
And a kid on a KX60.
And a kid on a SX65.
Opinions?
I'm not interested in landing on some poor little kid that's jus' trying to ride; but, I'm 52 & these kids are on MY "Old-Guy" track and they're SCARING THE SHIT OUTTA ME when I'm 20 feet up!
Now they run classes at the few tracks I go to. The wait between sucks, but I get why they do it and think they should.
My question is what parent sends there kid out in those circumstances? what's the mentality?
I'd like to see the parent standing on the infield, watching their kid's every move (I know I will).
I've had "closing speed" issues with the mini riders, too. Very scary.
1. you allow quads?
2. you allow minis on the Vet and Main tracks?
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She came out of this alight...
Couple of guys who were watching told me that she followed dad out onto the track. Dad entered the track between the double and so did she. Dad almost got his little girl killed. Worst feeling I've ever had on a bike!
Dad was at fault in my crash, but having a flagger or splitting up the practice could have prevented it.
Size of bike isn't as important as skill level and level of experience of the rider and his/her awareness. Still, it's nearly impossible to see the little kids on small bikes on the back side of a jump, or when they roll between jumps.
There are heaps of kids that can smoke me on the 85, but if we have a collision it's not a fight, they're fucked.
A little time scheduling and problem is avoided, MX needs all the safety help it can get.
But I agree, it's a huge safety hazard having young guns on the track who don't have the "skill" so to speak to stay in their lines and know how to not interfere with other, faster riders.
Well, needless to say, I landed on his bike (RM85) and ate shit and jacked my shoulder up good. Yes, if the kid is capapble, then by al means, they should be allowed, but really it's the parents fault for not being realistic about their kids ability level. I wouldn't let my kid out there, if they were a safety hazzard to themselves, or other riders.
It completely depends on the kid. Some kids are just as fast as a VET C, B rider, but can't clear the biggest jumps. I'm ok with that, because a lot of guys roll them anyway. And these faster mini kids have the experience to stay on the edges when they roll and most importantly, hold their lines. The, super slow kids, that are inexperienced are way more dangerous then slow adults because they usually lack the awareness and hold your line rule. That's no bueno, not acceptable.
Interestingly enough, i've seen 2 fights at Milestone for the opposite reason. Super fast kids ripping around on the Pee-Wee track and mini-dad flips out.
Doug
Pit Row
ALL 3 have Blind Landing issues: you can jump them and land "Blind". Especially the two largest tables.
I know, it happened today.
These kids were SLOW...REALLY...SLOW.
And SMALL.
I look waaaaay ahead and usually you can see these kids on-top of the jump as you approach; but, there are times when they're ALREADY Over it.
I, intentionally, look "across-track" & "across section" A LOT; however, the problem still exists.
This ain't about the Fast Kids: this is about the tiny little 50s and REALLY SLOW 65-85 kids...so slow and so "ALL OVER THE PLACE"...too.
THAT HAVE THEIR OWN TRACK(s)! ...@ Milestone...and Pala (have had the same problem at Pala...and GH.
Note: this afternoon the Main track was closed at 2.
I was watching the parents of the kids while they were out there. You could def tell they were thinking this was putting them on the way to become the next James Stewart.
I not really sure I know what I am talking about, but aren't they going to learn more on obstacles sized for their bikes? Not these big jumps they need to roll over.
Pala is bad too, cahuilla doesn't seem to draw so many mini's.
"I'm Soooooooo not looking forward to Landing on your kid that's going about 10 mph on a track that's for guys My Age."
I really, really, really feel sorry for ANY parent that acts like an ass when this happens. It won't be pretty...
Today, I shook my head at a set of parents after a "close-call"...one of'em pulled her off the track. I just loaded up.
As far as your video , you did everything possible to miss that kid. If anything you should be patting yourself on the back because you basically threw it away to avoid her. Good job man , and brave!
Before this happened I had the misfortune of seeing a 9 year old kid in his dads arms shortly before he died from head - neck injuries after an adult landed on him on the blind side of a jump. I can't begin to imagine how the parents or the rider felt, all I know I went home and took my kids bikes down the shop to be sold that day.
As much as I hate waiting for groups at my local practice tracks I do understand and support it .
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