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kongols 3/6/2012 9:15pm
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Coombs said that he will. Nowhere in any interview have I heard that he won`t.
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CherryGirl wrote:
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff...
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff and it's not worth it. The southwick incident was the last straw, and there have been many others.
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I dont know if what you say is credible or not. But I do know this: Champions dont care about "racial stuff".
Theres only one race..the Human. However I will say that red heads only make up 1% of the world population....now thats a minoritySmile

Here is the closest and most recent thing we have to James and an outdoor track. Can't wait for this weekend


https://youtu.be/_LZqYG6DCnE
sbarrington314 3/6/2012 9:25pm
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i listened to the pulp show and dont remember hearing that. sure u werent hearing things?
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I remember Poto saying that there was no way he was gonna try and do that pace on that course at night- like James was. He...
I remember Poto saying that there was no way he was gonna try and do that pace on that course at night- like James was. He was 1.5 seconds faster at one point if I remember correctly. Now it worked out for poto but what would he have said if James hadn't crashed because he was like you said headed for a 20 sec rewind back to the old days kind of win.

New year and Poto has some mean confidence going but that florida sand is new to one guy and home to another so we will see-Smile
Florida sand is home to James, RV, RD and Chad, and I'd assume that is not new to 95% of the 450 riders.

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I agree, but do you think James will do what is best for the sport? I suspect he will move to NASCAR expecting support from the...
I agree, but do you think James will do what is best for the sport? I suspect he will move to NASCAR expecting support from the MX community, but he may be losing that support based on his actions the past few years not participating in MX...
I Dont think he will do them, and I am not sure he really cares what is best for the sport. Not saying he doesnt care, I just dont get the impression from him that he does. I am a firm believer that MX is the back bone of the sport, and to diss the outdoors like he has done lately is lame. He might want to take a look at Reed and see what that did for his marketability and popularity with the fans. Just my .02
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CherryGirl 3/6/2012 10:19pm
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CherryGirl wrote:
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff...
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff and it's not worth it. The southwick incident was the last straw, and there have been many others.
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I dont know if what you say is credible or not. But I do know this: Champions dont care about "racial stuff".
So you are saying you never have heard of those imbreds leaning over the fence yelling at James while holding up a sign that Said I HATE N>word. I willl not spell the N word. It was all over the internet years ago and i have seen some shit that makes me sick.
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Mstock 3/6/2012 11:04pm
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The 2012 US Nationals are going to be amazing. The 250F class with Wilson, Barcia, Roczen, Musquin, Ratray, Baggot, Wharton, Tomac, etc will be mind blowing. In the 450 class they could only put 2 riders on the gate ( RV and RD) and it would be worth the price of admission. If JS races it will be just that much better but we will just have to get through it without him if he needs some family time. For JGR's sake I hope JS finds the motivation within himself to race. That team is way to good for the sport to stay home.
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BR_HERO 3/6/2012 11:19pm
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CherryGirl wrote:
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff...
Even if he does a few outdoor races he will not do all of them. Him and his family have been through allot of racial stuff and it's not worth it. The southwick incident was the last straw, and there have been many others.
tyler durden wrote:
I dont know if what you say is credible or not. But I do know this: Champions dont care about "racial stuff".
CherryGirl wrote:
So you are saying you never have heard of those imbreds leaning over the fence yelling at James while holding up a sign that Said I...
So you are saying you never have heard of those imbreds leaning over the fence yelling at James while holding up a sign that Said I HATE N>word. I willl not spell the N word. It was all over the internet years ago and i have seen some shit that makes me sick.
You really think James wont race the outdoors because of some dumb hicks? I know the answer is yes, it just boggles me sometimes when a moron like yourself actually believes the dumb shit they spew. James has talked about that incident on his ESPN E60 interview, maybe you should listen to it before you keep talking. Maybe then you will understand why saying what you did in your OP would come off so ignorant. Saying he won't race certain outdoors because of racist dicks is just handing over the power to them and letting them 'win". Do you understand? Or do i need to make it more clear?


James doesn't need a reason to race or not race the outdoors, it's his decision his life and his call. He doesn't owe anybody anything. Same goes for any other rider. Truth.
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Derpin' DJ 3/6/2012 11:21pm
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Actually, Rattray should be riding the 450's outdoors. He will either be up with Villopoto and Dungey, or will be the immediate "next guy".
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Actually, Rattray should be riding the 450's outdoors. He will either be up with Villopoto and Dungey, or will be the immediate "next guy".
I agree. He will be "fresh" and ready come Hangtown. Hope this is his year outdoors.
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Derpin' DJ 3/6/2012 11:38pm
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He should definitely be a player. He did well on the bike at the MXdN. The dude is consistent, strong and skilled; and he also has a couple of years experience under his belt with the US tracks now.
sbarrington314 3/6/2012 11:55pm
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BR_HERO wrote:
You really think James wont race the outdoors because of some dumb hicks? I know the answer is yes, it just boggles me sometimes when a...
You really think James wont race the outdoors because of some dumb hicks? I know the answer is yes, it just boggles me sometimes when a moron like yourself actually believes the dumb shit they spew. James has talked about that incident on his ESPN E60 interview, maybe you should listen to it before you keep talking. Maybe then you will understand why saying what you did in your OP would come off so ignorant. Saying he won't race certain outdoors because of racist dicks is just handing over the power to them and letting them 'win". Do you understand? Or do i need to make it more clear?


James doesn't need a reason to race or not race the outdoors, it's his decision his life and his call. He doesn't owe anybody anything. Same goes for any other rider. Truth.
this might be the one and only post youve made so far that is worthy of viewing.
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CocaineCrazy 3/7/2012 12:29am
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Lets put a scenario together of what would happen to Stewart next year in supercross if he didnt race the nationals
he would crash and he wouldnt get any closer to getting 72 sx wins or getting a sx championship for that matterSmile
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Feldspar 3/7/2012 4:09am
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sbarrington314 wrote:
i listened to the pulp show and dont remember hearing that. sure u werent hearing things?
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I expected.

The other thing that makes this worse is that Red Bull is sponsoring the nationals this year. I am sure they would like to have one of their top riders out there. I am also starting to wonder if JGR is regretting their decision to sign James. With all the changes to the bike they have had to make to try to "make James comfortable" and if he doesn't ride outdoors the maybe Millsaps won't either. I also think all of JGR's sponsors won't be too thrilled if their season is done in early May.
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sbarrington314 wrote:
i listened to the pulp show and dont remember hearing that. sure u werent hearing things?
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Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I...
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I expected.

The other thing that makes this worse is that Red Bull is sponsoring the nationals this year. I am sure they would like to have one of their top riders out there. I am also starting to wonder if JGR is regretting their decision to sign James. With all the changes to the bike they have had to make to try to "make James comfortable" and if he doesn't ride outdoors the maybe Millsaps won't either. I also think all of JGR's sponsors won't be too thrilled if their season is done in early May.
Where did you hear that he won`t be racing?
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sbarrington314 wrote:
i listened to the pulp show and dont remember hearing that. sure u werent hearing things?
Feldspar wrote:
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I...
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I expected.

The other thing that makes this worse is that Red Bull is sponsoring the nationals this year. I am sure they would like to have one of their top riders out there. I am also starting to wonder if JGR is regretting their decision to sign James. With all the changes to the bike they have had to make to try to "make James comfortable" and if he doesn't ride outdoors the maybe Millsaps won't either. I also think all of JGR's sponsors won't be too thrilled if their season is done in early May.
kongols wrote:
Where did you hear that he won`t be racing?
What kind of shape your in makes a big difference for MX. I don't think he will put the time in to be race ready for outdoors? He has too much going on and I'm quite sure it doesn't include running two thirty minute motos at least three times a week getting ready. He has no motivation to run outdoors? He is always fast but 30 minute plus one fast? I don't think you'll see him outdoors this season or any season from now on.
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I completely agree with your post. I am a js7 fan and have been since he was riding 80s. But recently James has been like that...
I completely agree with your post. I am a js7 fan and have been since he was riding 80s. But recently James has been like that old ex girlfriend who tries to win you back over and over and says she's changed but then ends up letting you down every time. I really hope James doesn't let his fans down this summer.
ditto on the ex reference
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jtiger12 3/7/2012 4:43am
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Feldspar wrote:
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I...
Yes i am sure. Jbone is the first guest on the last show. Matthes asked him "is James doing the outdoors"? His response was what I expected.

The other thing that makes this worse is that Red Bull is sponsoring the nationals this year. I am sure they would like to have one of their top riders out there. I am also starting to wonder if JGR is regretting their decision to sign James. With all the changes to the bike they have had to make to try to "make James comfortable" and if he doesn't ride outdoors the maybe Millsaps won't either. I also think all of JGR's sponsors won't be too thrilled if their season is done in early May.
kongols wrote:
Where did you hear that he won`t be racing?
snipermx50cal wrote:
What kind of shape your in makes a big difference for MX. I don't think he will put the time in to be race ready for...
What kind of shape your in makes a big difference for MX. I don't think he will put the time in to be race ready for outdoors? He has too much going on and I'm quite sure it doesn't include running two thirty minute motos at least three times a week getting ready. He has no motivation to run outdoors? He is always fast but 30 minute plus one fast? I don't think you'll see him outdoors this season or any season from now on.
too much going on? Come on man, you really believe that? Last year Reed formed his own team from the ground up and had the time to train and get ready for 60+4 every weekend. That was on top of being a husband and a father. There are lots of excuses, but lack of time is not one.

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Feldspar wrote:
I was listening to the Pulpmx show like I do every week and when Matthes asked Jbone if James would be doing outdoors, his response was...
I was listening to the Pulpmx show like I do every week and when Matthes asked Jbone if James would be doing outdoors, his response was we haven't discussed that with him yet.

I am not a JS hater at all, but that response is pathetic. Last couple years he was on a SX only team. He probably could have done outdoors if he wanted to bad enough. One of his excuses was that he wasn't prepared enough to fully commit to the outdoors or something like that.

What could possibly be his reason this year for not running the outdoors? JGR does outdoors, therefore JS should do outdoors. When Jbone was asked the response should have been " of course he is doing outdoors, our team is not SX only and he is on our team so that means he will be in for the outdoors". If they had Roger on or Kawi's Manager it wouldn't even be a question they would ask about RD or RV.

ThIs year when James doesn't do outdoors (yeah I would be shocked if he does) will prove that it had nothing to do with the team he was on the last 3 years. It will show that the whole time he didn't want to race outdoors. I know someone during an interview last year asked him if he would race outdoors this year and he said even if he has to drive his own pickup truck to the races he will be doing outdoors. You know if James told Jbone or Gibbs that he wanted to race outdoors they would be excited so that isn't holding him back. I am curios what the excuse will be this year. And for some crazy reason if he does race outdoors, why wouldn't he have said it was definite when he signed with JGR?

We all hear it is the bike why he isn't doing well in SX. To me I think he is loosing out by not racing outdoors. The other guys are racing and competing all summer and getting better while he is taking all that time off.

I am probably going to get lambasted from all the JS fans on here, but I would just really like to see him do the outdoors especially now with Reed out.
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@FELDSPAR I am a pretty much die-hard Stewart fan, i have been since 1993 when I saw him on a PW50 at Ponca City... and NO...
@FELDSPAR

I am a pretty much die-hard Stewart fan, i have been since 1993 when I saw him on a PW50 at Ponca City...

and NO you aren't going to get blasted for your post, because you aren't posting HATE...you are posting an honest opinion that wasn't just an attack on him...but a rational explanation from the outside looking in. Obviously there is a frustration in your post...every moto fan that happens to like stew will agree...if being honest

and i believe you are correct from top to bottom...as a stewart fan...I am losing interest in him more every summer...

the only thing you messed up is 'loosing' should be 'losing'...carry on
Yep, gotta agree with that
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Mr Regis 3/7/2012 5:32am
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I dont think he will ride the outdoors. I want him in there to add to the "drama" of the series, and by drama I mean...
I dont think he will ride the outdoors. I want him in there to add to the "drama" of the series, and by drama I mean simply another guy on the gate that can win. It is also what is best for the sport.
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Exactly! Otherwise it will be another Ryan vs. Ryan show.
Ryan don't have nothing on Ryan for the outdoors....
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As soon as I heard his contract stated the outdoors were optional I thought he wasn't going to race them. If they had to make them optional in his contract that proves he hasn't wanted to do them the last few years.

I am with a lot of you, if he doesn't do them I am no longer a fan of his.
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Shawn142 3/7/2012 6:43am
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James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in order to seal the deal the team put into the contract that outdoors was all James' option. If he's not happy he can just say no thanks.
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Shawn142 wrote:
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in...
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in order to seal the deal the team put into the contract that outdoors was all James' option. If he's not happy he can just say no thanks.
James has an option to not race outdoors in his THIRD YEAR if he wins a championship.
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Shawn142 wrote:
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in...
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in order to seal the deal the team put into the contract that outdoors was all James' option. If he's not happy he can just say no thanks.
Show of hands.... Who here thinks he's happy?
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Whatever...if he races outdoors good,,,if not,,,good,,,I dont give a shit what this MF does anymore.
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Huge JS7 fan here, but I don't think he's racing the Nat's. Here it is Daytona and he still doesn't have his bike ready? Shit, it's going to take him until Millville to get his Outdoor bike ready. I love watching him ride/race, but the sideshow is getting old.
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James is probably thinking.... Outdoor Nationals = 12 more crashes....nah, I'll pass!
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Shawn142 wrote:
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in...
James has a 100% legal out in his contract to not race the nationals. He was hired by JGR to win a Supercross title, and in order to seal the deal the team put into the contract that outdoors was all James' option. If he's not happy he can just say no thanks.
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Show of hands.... Who here thinks he's happy?
I think he is putting the blame on the bike when the problem is him.

Great example is him blaming the bike bogging for his bad start and Jbone said they showed him the stats and that wasn't the case.

He has lost a little of what he had and the others have made gains and he just can't handle being that much faster than everyone. He's trying too hard.

Davi is not having any issues on a bike with a lot less modification to it.
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Huge JS7 fan here, but I don't think he's racing the Nat's. Here it is Daytona and he still doesn't have his bike ready? Shit, it's...
Huge JS7 fan here, but I don't think he's racing the Nat's. Here it is Daytona and he still doesn't have his bike ready? Shit, it's going to take him until Millville to get his Outdoor bike ready. I love watching him ride/race, but the sideshow is getting old.
Why do you say he doesn't have his bike ready???
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flyinb501 3/7/2012 7:17am
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I hope he does... And to the person that says James won't race the outdoors because of racism... You're an idiot.

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