Anaheim 1: EXCELLENT Track Layout

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mj731 1/8/2012 7:15am
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TerryK wrote:
I liked it. It was technical and had no flow....which is good.
Sure. Whenever I race and the track has no flow I think it's good too. Wait, no, I think "Man, this track sucks and I'm not coming back here again." .
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KAWboy14 1/8/2012 7:16am
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cmess77 wrote:
Over 1 minute lap times as well. No regular SX had that last year I don't think. Irregular one's being Daytona and Vegas.
finally a real track without 400 whoops
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bents 1/8/2012 7:40am
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Face the facts. No supercross track is great for passing. Sure some may be better than others. And some tracks this year will be worse than...
Face the facts. No supercross track is great for passing. Sure some may be better than others. And some tracks this year will be worse than A1 for passing. People think every round will be like 2011 with multiple lead changes and are let down when its not. Huge Reed fan but Skippy needs to harden the fuck up. He acted like a teenage girl with his words. I liked the track. We got 1 full 20+ minute moto which everyone has been demanding. There was passing just not with the top 4 guys. How did Hansen manage to pass 10 riders in the main? Good job Feld and Dirt Wurx on an interesting non cookie cutter track.
This. And it actually looked like fitness came into play finally! Instead of spending 3/4 of their time in the air, they actually had to race the bike on the ground, and manhandling those beasts in and around that track took some serious effort. I think some guys got hard arm pump and it led to some mistakes out there. On TV, it was great.
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tapkawiman 1/8/2012 8:19am
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mx196 wrote:
How could this track have provided better racing if the leader charted +18 by the mid way point? The only reason the top 2-4 got tight...
How could this track have provided better racing if the leader charted +18 by the mid way point? The only reason the top 2-4 got tight was because Reedy went down, allowing that. This track had zero rhythm sections, im actually pretty sure the Mini O's SX track was harder.
WhKnuckle wrote:
Uh, because he was going way faster than anyone else?
mx196 wrote:
Uh, what are you talking about, i never asked how Villopoto got 20 seconds ahead. I said he got a + 18 lead by the mid...
Uh, what are you talking about, i never asked how Villopoto got 20 seconds ahead. I said he got a + 18 lead by the mid point , so the common man would assume he's going faster than everyone else right?
Explain because that didnt make to much sense to me?

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bullpen58 1/8/2012 8:22am
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I think the fact that Chad Reed and a few others (IT9) have stated that they "hated the track" just proves that the track was awesome. It was not a dangerous track. It was challenging.

I think the race would have been even more exciting if dang RV wouldn't have nailed the holeshot. Someone needs to set up his "start map" on his electronic start EFI switch mechanism thingie to "super slow" so that he doesn't do that anymore. We would have witnessed him passing EVERYONE and still win. The guy is on a different planet right now.

Still, it is amazing to watch guys like CR, RD, and JS. I saw JS pass IT9 on a straight-away. Yes, a fucking straight-away. Who the fuck passes Ivan Fucking Tedesco on a fucking straight away? I guess JS does. LMAO! Think about that. I'm sure we would have seen RV do much of the same to EVERYONE had he gotten a bad start.
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Hawwy 1/8/2012 8:44am
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Thought the track was awesome last night!
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Big 1/8/2012 9:15am
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A mix between this and last years track maybe? This track was boooooring. (in my opinion worst in many years)
tmauto769 1/8/2012 10:02am
1/8/2012 10:02am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2012 10:05am
I thought it was boring as well. So much so, I quit watching it after the lites LCQ and went to bed, and finished watching it this morning when I got up. Yawn, If the riders didn't like it and the majority of the fans didn't like it, maybe the track designers should pay attention, after all the fans are paying the bills and the riders are bringing in the fans. I am glad they did try something different for sure, but it didn't work out to well, so go back to what works. If they don't I know I won't be wasting my money going to Atlanta this year.
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TDeath21 1/8/2012 10:17am
1/8/2012 10:17am
Reed is my favorite rider, but seriously quit whining. EVERYONE rode the EXACT same track. To the spectators who hated it, explain to me why? I loved it.
tmauto769 1/8/2012 10:30am
1/8/2012 10:30am
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Reed is my favorite rider, but seriously quit whining. EVERYONE rode the EXACT same track. To the spectators who hated it, explain to me why? I...
Reed is my favorite rider, but seriously quit whining. EVERYONE rode the EXACT same track. To the spectators who hated it, explain to me why? I loved it.
I am not fond of seeing this caliber of riders rolling obstacles, I like to see and hear JS hitting the rev limiter on a 450 trying to quad a jump WFO when I am up about 8 rows on the 50yd line at Atlanta, but that is my opinion, yours obviously differs.
(btw doesn't have to be JS, could be any of them, but I have seen him do it first hand, and it just stuck in my head for some reason) To me as a SX fan that is what I expect to see, not this "enduro cross" type stuff that happened last nite.
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AUS_Twisted 1/8/2012 10:32am
1/8/2012 10:32am
What the fans and spectators want is something like Anaheim 2 2000, now theres some exciting obstacles to watch (especially for the 125's back then)
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884 1/8/2012 10:43am
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Looked better on tv than it did watching it live, just a one liner. Track would have been better run backwards, off the start to head into the corner that Reed dropped it in and race down towards left field.

Being there just sucked, don't know what the deal was with the stadium, over half an hour to get out of the stadium to go to the pits because the 2 people at the gate wanted to scan your pass. They also changed their rules part way through the day on industry tickets, I had a regular ticket with an industry sticker but you weren't allowed to enter or exit through theindustry gates like you usually could.
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Picard186 1/8/2012 10:47am
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I liked the layout, I think they could have added a few more jumps. For example, if any of you watched Dortmund SX this weekend, they had some sweeping rhythm sections. Maybe could incorporate something like that.
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JW381 1/8/2012 10:53am
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I liked it.
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Moto_Geek 1/8/2012 10:56am
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I agree..

Was nice to not have all the top riders riding the same track in practice at their homes. Leveled the playing field a little bit. I think it was a bit safer and slower. But was one lined.
jakefortyeight 1/8/2012 10:56am
1/8/2012 10:56am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2012 11:21am
A few observations:

1, The overwhelming majority of the RIDERS thought the track sucked.

2, The people who went to the races lean heavier towards saying they didn't like the track

3, The people who saw it on TV lean heavier towards saying they liked the track.

Not sure how that will translate to Feld, but I am guessing they will go with the riders opinions...

Also - I don't get this it's better to have a track slow, safer and the riders closer together stuff. Using that type of logic we might as well see them race on a big ol' dirt oval and have a real hoot n nanny of a race.

Am i the only one who noticed that just about EVERY rider did EVERY section the same? Yeah, sure, tracks like that one put the riders on a "Level" playing field, but I want to see the racers separated by the riders with the talent and / or the creativity to try and put together combos that the other riders
A. Don't have the skill to do
or
B. Couldn't see the possibility of

Nothing like seeing a triple / double section and then someone comes along and goes quad / single or single / quad or changes it to double / triple. Bottom line, track was boring and one lined with no opportunity for a creative approach to the obstacles...
scrubbin627 1/8/2012 11:09am
1/8/2012 11:09am
I didnt care for the track last night.
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PFitzG38 1/8/2012 11:12am
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884 wrote:
Looked better on tv than it did watching it live, just a one liner. Track would have been better run backwards, off the start to head...
Looked better on tv than it did watching it live, just a one liner. Track would have been better run backwards, off the start to head into the corner that Reed dropped it in and race down towards left field.

Being there just sucked, don't know what the deal was with the stadium, over half an hour to get out of the stadium to go to the pits because the 2 people at the gate wanted to scan your pass. They also changed their rules part way through the day on industry tickets, I had a regular ticket with an industry sticker but you weren't allowed to enter or exit through theindustry gates like you usually could.
The trick is to get your ticket re-scanned as soon as you enter, then you can come and go as you please; even after they stop letting people out and you never have to wait in that line to get out. Remember for A2.

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884 1/8/2012 6:06pm
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884 wrote:
Looked better on tv than it did watching it live, just a one liner. Track would have been better run backwards, off the start to head...
Looked better on tv than it did watching it live, just a one liner. Track would have been better run backwards, off the start to head into the corner that Reed dropped it in and race down towards left field.

Being there just sucked, don't know what the deal was with the stadium, over half an hour to get out of the stadium to go to the pits because the 2 people at the gate wanted to scan your pass. They also changed their rules part way through the day on industry tickets, I had a regular ticket with an industry sticker but you weren't allowed to enter or exit through theindustry gates like you usually could.
PFitzG38 wrote:
The trick is to get your ticket re-scanned as soon as you enter, then you can come and go as you please; even after they stop...
The trick is to get your ticket re-scanned as soon as you enter, then you can come and go as you please; even after they stop letting people out and you never have to wait in that line to get out. Remember for A2.
Tried that, a very loud security woman kept telling us we had to re-scan everytime, never had that problem over the past 5 years, you walk up show your sticker and they they wave you on in.
aFACEdismembered 1/9/2012 10:34am
1/9/2012 10:34am
I like how people say the track had no flow like there's a definition for "flow" on a SX track. Has that definition changed over the last 30 years in SX? How can a definition change? Flow is what you make it. Reed even admitted not liking it and that his distaste for it probably affected his performance on it somewhat. Villopoto didn't seem to have a problem finding his flow around it. Or Hansen coming from last to 10th.
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lumpy790 1/9/2012 10:40am
1/9/2012 10:40am
Loved it!

Being extremely technical ......challenged the riders as it was different....and teams to get the set up.

RV1 had it wired.....WFO and hold on type riders.....not so much.
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Pdub 1/9/2012 11:26am
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I liked the track from where I sat (behind the start gate), and loved the fact that it had some high speed sweepers on it. On television, it didn't look as impressive, but that was simply due to poor camera angles.

At first, I thought the whoops were weak, compared to some of the scary monsters from the past. But when I realized that no one was getting hurt in them, I changed my mind.

As for the track being easy... three of the best racers ever hit the dirt as some point, so it wasn't THAT easy!
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zippy895 1/9/2012 12:24pm
1/9/2012 12:24pm
its odd to here the elite racers who have suspension and motor guys at there disposal complain about track layouts that they see as crappy. the privateers are the only ones permitted to complain.
with that, when the track is not what they ask for and they still Persevere with great results, whats the big problem.
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Predator 1/9/2012 1:08pm
1/9/2012 1:08pm
track was garbage
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PressPassP 1/9/2012 1:13pm
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Bit of a let down to be quite honest,glad I didnt stay up late here to watch it in the end,shorter SX season,longer outdoors please Smile
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Hallzilla 1/11/2012 7:11am
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bullpen58 wrote:
Sure, it could be wider in a lot of places but personally, I think the "easy" (aka, non-technical) layout made for killer RACING. I want to...
Sure, it could be wider in a lot of places but personally, I think the "easy" (aka, non-technical) layout made for killer RACING. I want to see RACING. I'm sick and tired of the cookie-cutter SX tracks where whomever is fastest through the whoops laps up to second (even after seven crashes and a trip to the Asterisk Medical Unit for an IV). Tonight's so-called "easy" track sure did have a lot of guys crashing. Know why? Because they were RACING!!!!

The fastest guy is gonna win no matter what. I believe RC said that (no shit). The track can be full of jumps, whoops, flat, mud, hilly, sandy, rocky, rutted, or whatever and the fastest guy will still win.

I just wanted to commend Feld/Dirt Werx/David Bailey's Dad/whomever made that track. Dirt looked killer. They prepped it perfectly. Layout made for lots of bar banging action. KUDOS!!!!
Pass along some of that good smoke because your high !
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CRF107 1/11/2012 7:25am
1/11/2012 7:25am
Swing and a miss by the track designers.

In person, sitting up high where you could see the whole track it was pretty boring. The whole center section of the track could have been ridden by a vet novice rider, in fact all of the rollers reminded me of a beginner track. The rest of the track was ok, but almost no jump options. Sure some guys passed alot of guys, but it isn't that hard when they are going 2-3 seconds slower per lap.
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Bellone 1/11/2012 8:07am
1/11/2012 8:07am
HATED IT!
Worst track in a long time.
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Moto331 1/11/2012 9:28am
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Bellone wrote:
HATED IT!
Worst track in a long time.
Agree. There was nothing worse on this earth.
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englishman 1/11/2012 9:34am
1/11/2012 9:34am
Wasn't there but looked garbage on the idiot box.

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