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Nah, I know they feel fine on the track, I had an 09 and loved it. It just seems odd that all of the bikes are so similar as far as components, but then the RMZ has 10 lbs of extra weight.
I'm thinking about picking up a very cherry '12....
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Funny that this bike hasn't had a major revamp since 08 and it's still the one that the top guys want to ride. It just works.
The ktm, kawi and husky450s are all heavier than the rmz.
The yzf450 was lighter by 1 lbs.
I think the heavy thing that people talk about is just carried over from the original2008 2009, but the weight has been creeping down year after year.
The yoshimura pipe from my 2009 fits my 2015 and drops it nearly 4 lbs lighter.
CRF: 243 curb weight
RMZ: 247 curb mass
YZF: 245 "dry weight"
KXF: 247.1 "wet"
2015 KTM 450: 235.4
2015.5 KTM 450 FE: 226.2 (?!?!)
Four pounds is certainly not the end of the world between the Asian bikes, but damn those KTMs are in a different league!
2015 dry (no fuel)
Honda 234
Yamaha236
Suzuki 237
Kawasaki238
Sxf238
Fc241
I'd almost bet money that Honda's weight difference is from the Unicam design.
$50-75 oem
Lol
That being said, I have a Vet A friend here who rides a stock 09 and says he does notice it losing power. His cooling system is also stock -- radiator cap, pump, everything.
I wouldn't have any big concerns about the '14 and cooling, spend the $20 for a 1.6 or 1.8 radiator cap if you are fast and think cooling will be a problem and you will probably be fine.
As for reliability, when I got my 09 the PO had run it until the valves were out of spec. I had the seats redone, replaced the valves with stainless, and ran it for over a season with no issues. They didn't budge after that. No other issues for me on that bike as far as reliability.
I know the early 08s had a tranny problem that was recalled, but it gave that model some headaches its first year. Not an issue on your '14.
I have another friend with a '12 and he just hit 60 hours, no issues and loves the bike. Also a fast (young) B rider.
FWIW, I just bought a '12 with 20 hours on it last night, so I'm obviously not too worried about those things : ) !!
Any how, that that time they were throwing in a free seat cover, so it was only a few bucks more to go this route, over the cost of a regular tall foam and.cover.
I think all OEM.seat foams are heavy, compared to these new foams.
It would take a ridiculous amount of money spent on ti bolts to make the same savings in weight.
With that foam , the yoshimura ti pipe and taking off a few bits and bobs that aren't needed the bike is only 3 lbs heavier than the new factory edition ktm.
Pit Row
Also, I swapped out the crank case breather with just a simple breather hose. Then a few aluminum washers on the radiator, i put all that stuff in a Ziploc and it weighed 1 lbs.
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