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Hello guys,
Back in November I found an interesting deal on a 250 YZ 07'. I went at seller's house to see the bike at good price, dude welcomed me dressed half gangsta half farmer, smoking weed... Probably a French cousin of the "Pro Works Bikes" seller from Craiglist...
Surprisingly, the bike was pretty clean but after a quick test ride, I noticed that rod/piston/cylinder were toasted from the weird sound the bike was doing. For sure, the bike was tired but still pretty fast. It has Doma silencer and suspension revolved.
We started to negociate price, a couple of minutes and a few joints later, the guy finally agreed to sell me the bike the price I wanted, which was pretty low considering hours of work and fresh parts the bike needed.
Here starts the story...
After a couple of ride in order to get used to the bike, I decided to restore it for 13' season.
While stripping down exhaust for reinflating it, I had a quick look inside exhaust transfer just to check piston and cylinder.
Ouch, as you can see, the poor boy was so old that it began to biodegrade....
I knew it was time to strip down engine for replacement of piston, rod, bearings, nikasil, etc...
I found a good deal on Ebay for a Wiseco crank kit, brand new cylinder with piston and gaskets so these old parts will soon join the Dead Parts room which is unfortunately way bigger than trophy room...
In the end, this bike will cost probably the same cost as a used 2007 250 YZ at normal price but good point is that I ll be sure of engine's health.
I heard bad things about Wiseco cranks, I have already purchased it, hope it won't blew the new motor.
However, I am still surprised that bike ran still pretty well since piston was nearly atomized and cylinder cracked.... Is it something usual on 250 zingers ?
I'll post updates about the bike, I eventually decided to take advantage of the situation to begin a rebuild project. I already put new wheel, swingarm and linkage bearings, fresh grips and ordered a Pro Circuit silencer. I am also questioning about realizing carbon fiber ignition cover.
Thanks for you time and reading my poor English, I know this project is not very creative but I wanted to share with the story with you and grab some good tips for my bike :-)
Back in November I found an interesting deal on a 250 YZ 07'. I went at seller's house to see the bike at good price, dude welcomed me dressed half gangsta half farmer, smoking weed... Probably a French cousin of the "Pro Works Bikes" seller from Craiglist...
Surprisingly, the bike was pretty clean but after a quick test ride, I noticed that rod/piston/cylinder were toasted from the weird sound the bike was doing. For sure, the bike was tired but still pretty fast. It has Doma silencer and suspension revolved.
We started to negociate price, a couple of minutes and a few joints later, the guy finally agreed to sell me the bike the price I wanted, which was pretty low considering hours of work and fresh parts the bike needed.
Here starts the story...
After a couple of ride in order to get used to the bike, I decided to restore it for 13' season.
While stripping down exhaust for reinflating it, I had a quick look inside exhaust transfer just to check piston and cylinder.
Ouch, as you can see, the poor boy was so old that it began to biodegrade....
I knew it was time to strip down engine for replacement of piston, rod, bearings, nikasil, etc...
I found a good deal on Ebay for a Wiseco crank kit, brand new cylinder with piston and gaskets so these old parts will soon join the Dead Parts room which is unfortunately way bigger than trophy room...
In the end, this bike will cost probably the same cost as a used 2007 250 YZ at normal price but good point is that I ll be sure of engine's health.
I heard bad things about Wiseco cranks, I have already purchased it, hope it won't blew the new motor.
However, I am still surprised that bike ran still pretty well since piston was nearly atomized and cylinder cracked.... Is it something usual on 250 zingers ?
I'll post updates about the bike, I eventually decided to take advantage of the situation to begin a rebuild project. I already put new wheel, swingarm and linkage bearings, fresh grips and ordered a Pro Circuit silencer. I am also questioning about realizing carbon fiber ignition cover.
Thanks for you time and reading my poor English, I know this project is not very creative but I wanted to share with the story with you and grab some good tips for my bike :-)
Never seen a YZ do that before!
i had a 06 Yz 250. These bikes love stock everything, never ever had a problem with OEM parts.
One thing that did catch my eye though. Unless the wheels/rotors were swapped out, the bike actually looks like it's an '08 or newer. Yamaha spec'd those rotors for the two-stroke starting in 2008. 2007 for the 4-strokes.
The guy I bought the bike did not seem to be very meticulous. I sure he rode the bike on the road/woods without any maintenance in months. Anyway, I made a good deal on it.
I had the same reaction about rotors, but the very first owner of my bike had a newer YZ (08 or 09) he rode for races and used the '07 as a training bike. He switched wheels when he sold it.
It really sucks for that Wiseco crank, I'll measure it with micrometer to check if it is well balanced.
The Shop
I decided to wash my frame this morning, it was a lil bit dirty and I wanted to give him a fresh aspect.
Tried to brush it and then soda blast but result was not great so I used an phosphoric acid based cleaner originally destined to industry, I was quite amazed by the result. The aluminium frame is like brand new.
I'm glad I read your guys' posts about the Wiseco kit! I was considering buying the Wiseco complete kit if I found all my stuff to be broke or tore up. That woulda cost me huge. I'll try to stick with OEM or Hot Rods.
I have no clue how your piston could have ended up like that. I've had a bike totally seize up just from a fried ring and a little toastyness on my piston. That thing looks more like scrap than the inner workings of a dirtbike.
Thanks to my experience with Wiseco cranks and the fact that I have a real person job now, I just sucked it up and spent the big bucks for a quality OEM crank.
I know that Yamaha cranks cost a fortune new (unlike Honda and Kawasaki). I would just close your eyes and not look at the price. Get the OEM crank and be happy for the future.
That's why I took the risk to ride it for 1 hour divided in 2 rides.
I definitely think that cylinder was cracked and piston freshly broken when I purchased the bike. I am still wondering how the bike even started with a engine so damaged...
Thanks for replies guys.
Note: Run OEM crank
Swingarm and linkage bearings were in same condition as piston and cylinder. I replaced everything with Pivot Work bearings, easy to install, great quality, I have been sticking with this brand since my first scooter.
Wheels bearings are fine, just found this weekend a great deal at local store on a O'Ring Renthal complete chain kit, I bought it without even thinking if it was a good ratio. The transmission ratio 14x51, is it OK for the 250 YZ ?
I essentially ride small tracks with short sections so 14/51 might be unfortunately too long :-(
I'll try it anyway.
Pit Row
Looks like that piston was in so long it started cracking (common if not replaced on schedule) and that cracked the cylinder
Like others have said, spend the extra dough now and save yourself later on.
Good luck man!
I received the OEM brand new cylinder with piston kit. As you can see further back on picture, I have also received my Wiseco crank kit, I'm still considering selling it and putting a new rod in my old stock crank. I heard too much bad stories about it for taking the risk to blow everything after a couple of rides... On the other hand, a friend who is bike mechanic has installed lots of Wiseco cranks and rods reported me today that he never heard cases of failures...
I'll post rebuild updates as soon as I get my crankcases back from the shop. I decided to change all gear bearings for new ones. It will increase the bill but the motor will be like brand new after rebuild !
I'll try a few tanks to see if it works better, does it imply to tune jetting ?
Thanks for advise !
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