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2/7/2014 9:14 AM

I have been riding/racing for 13 yrs and been on 4-strokes for 9 yrs an have always ran rotella for my oils, and have never had problems with it in Hondas or kawis. I made a change this yr and went and bought me a new 2014 yz 250 2stroke, my question is has anyone ran rotella in there 2stroke? And would it hurt it if I did? And please no bs comments thanks

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2/7/2014 9:30 AM

I use rotella in my 13 ktm 250sx. Works like a charm.

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2/7/2014 9:34 AM

Alright thanks

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2/7/2014 9:50 AM

I ran rotella in my yz all last year. No issues. In fact rekluse recommends it. I put it in my diesel so I always have it around and you can get it anywhere.

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2/7/2014 9:58 AM

I was hoping I could still use it. I work autozone and can get 5g bucket for about 40 bucks

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2/7/2014 12:16 PM

What weight do you guys run in your YZ?

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2/7/2014 12:58 PM

Yup. 10-30 or something like that

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2/7/2014 2:08 PM

Here is the million dollar question..... Who spend money on a bike that had not been developed 1 iota in the last 8 years? A KTM is damn near the same price and has research and development money put into it on a yearly basis!!!

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2/7/2014 2:49 PM

I used 15w 40 in all mine and going to use it in my 14 yz250

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2/7/2014 5:23 PM

MxKing809 wrote:

Here is the million dollar question..... Who spend money on a bike that had not been developed 1 iota in the last 8 years? A KTM is damn near the same price and has research and development money put into it on a yearly basis!!!

Clearly only people that are not as smart as you.

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2/7/2014 5:23 PM

mxer574 wrote:

I used 15w 40 in all mine and going to use it in my 14 yz250

Thank you, sir. I think I'm going to give it a try.

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2/7/2014 9:20 PM

mxer574 wrote:

I used 15w 40 in all mine and going to use it in my 14 yz250

Harry Backmon wrote:

Thank you, sir. I think I'm going to give it a try.

Welcome, safe riding to you all!

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2/8/2014 11:13 AM

I run Rotella 15-40 in the white jug from Wally world in every bike I own. 4t and 2t... also run it in the truck! Very good oil. In fact holds up better than most of the high end ($$$) dirt bike specific oils. Myself and others have sent samples in of all different brands (from 1 hr all the way to 15hrs) to be tested and none of the Rotella samples have even began to break down.

If you ever go to a Pro MX or SX event... check out how many mechanics are pouring Rotella into those bikes.

Buy it and run it... you will thank yourself later. Your wallet will as well.

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2/8/2014 12:13 PM

run your rotella for a while then flush and run Bel Ray 80W Gear Saver..... you will feel the difference in clutch action and shifting.

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2/8/2014 4:23 PM

ftball90 wrote:

I run Rotella 15-40 in the white jug from Wally world in every bike I own. 4t and 2t... also run it in the truck! Very good oil. In fact holds up better than most of the high end ($$$) dirt bike specific oils. Myself and others have sent samples in of all different brands (from 1 hr all the way to 15hrs) to be tested and none of the Rotella samples have even began to break down.

If you ever go to a Pro MX or SX event... check out how many mechanics are pouring Rotella into those bikes.

Buy it and run it... you will thank yourself later. Your wallet will as well.

I also have tested te oil in the 4 strokes I ran after 3-5 rides as it was coming back with 50-60% life left

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2/11/2014 5:15 AM

ftball90 wrote:

I run Rotella 15-40 in the white jug from Wally world in every bike I own. 4t and 2t... also run it in the truck! Very good oil. In fact holds up better than most of the high end ($$$) dirt bike specific oils. Myself and others have sent samples in of all different brands (from 1 hr all the way to 15hrs) to be tested and none of the Rotella samples have even began to break down.

If you ever go to a Pro MX or SX event... check out how many mechanics are pouring Rotella into those bikes.

Buy it and run it... you will thank yourself later. Your wallet will as well.

mxer574 wrote:

I also have tested te oil in the 4 strokes I ran after 3-5 rides as it was coming back with 50-60% life left

How much time do you put on the oil in "3-5 rides"? Also is this MX or trails or a mixture of the 2?

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2/11/2014 8:04 AM

lumpy790 wrote:

run your rotella for a while then flush and run Bel Ray 80W Gear Saver..... you will feel the difference in clutch action and shifting.

"run rotella for a while".....the best part about it being cheap is you can change it every couple rides. works just the same as bel ray or any other oil.

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2/11/2014 8:18 AM

ftball90 wrote:

I run Rotella 15-40 in the white jug from Wally world in every bike I own. 4t and 2t... also run it in the truck! Very good oil. In fact holds up better than most of the high end ($$$) dirt bike specific oils. Myself and others have sent samples in of all different brands (from 1 hr all the way to 15hrs) to be tested and none of the Rotella samples have even began to break down.

If you ever go to a Pro MX or SX event... check out how many mechanics are pouring Rotella into those bikes.

Buy it and run it... you will thank yourself later. Your wallet will as well.

mxer574 wrote:

I also have tested te oil in the 4 strokes I ran after 3-5 rides as it was coming back with 50-60% life left

ftball90 wrote:

How much time do you put on the oil in "3-5 rides"? Also is this MX or trails or a mixture of the 2?

All mx I count 1 ride as a prac day or a race day.

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2/11/2014 8:27 AM

..... ATF Type F in my RM
tried them all, none worked that good except maybe The Honda one in the Red bottle (looks & feels like atf)


NOW where can I find a 5 gal container of type F --- ATF?

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2/11/2014 11:37 AM

MxKing809 wrote:

Here is the million dollar question..... Who spend money on a bike that had not been developed 1 iota in the last 8 years? A KTM is damn near the same price and has research and development money put into it on a yearly basis!!!

Some people prefer the yz...
Just because you spend development money on a bike doesn't mean you are going to make it any better. Case in point, 2010 yz450f(arguable I know). It's pretty hard to objectively measure how good a dirtbike is anyway.

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2/11/2014 4:39 PM
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mxer574 wrote:

I also have tested te oil in the 4 strokes I ran after 3-5 rides as it was coming back with 50-60% life left

ftball90 wrote:

How much time do you put on the oil in "3-5 rides"? Also is this MX or trails or a mixture of the 2?

mxer574 wrote:

All mx I count 1 ride as a prac day or a race day.

Cool... just curious how much track time you typically get in a practice day. I wasn't questioning your test results or anything. Just trying to get a little more info for comparison purposes.

A practice day for me is typically 1.5-2.5 hours of track time depending on whether its a weekday (6p-10p) or a weekend where it is less formal and I can go out at will and ride till I'm beat (sometimes up to 4-5hrs of on track time). Most of my oil tests were done at 5 hrs on my meter which is when I typically change my oil because I am anal retentive and only have one bike so I don't want to take any chances but I sent tests in that were left in for 15 hrs (just for testing purposes) and at 15 hrs I was at about 50% every time with Rotella. Never went past 5 hours with any other brands.

My tests at 5 hours showed between 10-12% with Rotella, 19% with Yamalube, 22% with Lucas oil synthetic, 22% with Motorex power synthetic, 28% with Lucas Semi synthetic (also experienced clutch slip), the worst was the Suzuki oil... it came back with 37% break down at 5 hrs.

All tests were done with my RMZ450 so I think it is safe to say that all of them will hold up to the abuse of your typical track rider, but I prefer the one that stands up the best and is also the cheapest. The Rotella also had the least amount of contaminants from the tranny/clutch.

Also says something that Rekluse recommends it that you should run it with their clutches.

FWIW: all tests were done by Blackstone Labs... pure MX use.

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2/11/2014 6:00 PM

ftball90 wrote:

How much time do you put on the oil in "3-5 rides"? Also is this MX or trails or a mixture of the 2?

mxer574 wrote:

All mx I count 1 ride as a prac day or a race day.

ftball90 wrote:

Cool... just curious how much track time you typically get in a practice day. I wasn't questioning your test results or anything. Just trying to get a little more info for comparison purposes.

A practice day for me is typically 1.5-2.5 hours of track time depending on whether its a weekday (6p-10p) or a weekend where it is less formal and I can go out at will and ride till I'm beat (sometimes up to 4-5hrs of on track time). Most of my oil tests were done at 5 hrs on my meter which is when I typically change my oil because I am anal retentive and only have one bike so I don't want to take any chances but I sent tests in that were left in for 15 hrs (just for testing purposes) and at 15 hrs I was at about 50% every time with Rotella. Never went past 5 hours with any other brands.

My tests at 5 hours showed between 10-12% with Rotella, 19% with Yamalube, 22% with Lucas oil synthetic, 22% with Motorex power synthetic, 28% with Lucas Semi synthetic (also experienced clutch slip), the worst was the Suzuki oil... it came back with 37% break down at 5 hrs.

All tests were done with my RMZ450 so I think it is safe to say that all of them will hold up to the abuse of your typical track rider, but I prefer the one that stands up the best and is also the cheapest. The Rotella also had the least amount of contaminants from the tranny/clutch.

Also says something that Rekluse recommends it that you should run it with their clutches.

FWIW: all tests were done by Blackstone Labs... pure MX use.

Mine was 1.5 to 2 hours 3 hours tops on prac days and On race day it would prolly be a hour tops

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2/11/2014 10:11 PM

NorcalVet wrote:

..... ATF Type F in my RM
tried them all, none worked that good except maybe The Honda one in the Red bottle (looks & feels like atf)


NOW where can I find a 5 gal container of type F --- ATF?

I used to run atf in my 2 stokes than Bel Ray gear saver but for my RM 10w 40 produces the best result.real smooth no hard shifting but everyone has something that they like and that why these forums are cool.

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2/19/2014 2:57 PM

We use a 50/50 mix of BelRay Gear Saver and Rotella T 15/40, IMO Rotella has protection for gears and BelRay makes it shift nice. 85SX. Use Rotella in my YZ250F