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Anyone had any problems with the filters seperating when using the new green NoToil?
Since the green stuff came out, I only get 2-3 washes before the filter seperates.
And yes, even with a new filter.
Since the green stuff came out, I only get 2-3 washes before the filter seperates.
And yes, even with a new filter.
The Shop
I also agree with your views on the No-Toil system. No dirt or sand gets past it. I run Twin-Air filters and wash them after every ride. I haven't tried the No-Toil filter as yet.
I wonder why they changed it to the green though, I use the spray can and really liked the red better, you could spray it more consistent and it was not foamish at all like the green is.
As for oiling the filters, we have always poured a couple bottles of oil in a large plastic bowl with a lid, submerge a clean dry filter in the oil then sqeeze out the excess oil back into the bowl and put the lid on bowl. The filter gets oiled completely and there is no waiste.
I'm looking to switch to no toil and just wondering whether you had the same evaporation issues with that as with regular filter oil?
If your asking about the filter, I understand that it's not good for the glue bonds. But desiel fuel is what we usually have on hand, and filter cleaner we don't.
I of corse read the directions to all the testing products and followed them exactly. All I'm saying is that before, I would be lucky to have some air filter cleaner in a spray can. It didn't work all that great and I would use gas, fuel, paint thinner, ect... to clean air filters on most occasions. Once I got the opportunity to test No Toil's cleaner, I swiched over becasue I liked it so much. I found it was worth the money, easy to use, and did a great job.
Pit Row
What I found with no-toil is that you have to religiously service the filter before every single ride because the oil gravitates to the bottom of the filter over time, leaving the top of the filter dry. That's where I ran into trouble with it. My bike sat for a few weeks with a fresh filter, then I went to a dry sand track and rode 4 motos. When I pulled the filter, it was passing silt through the top of the filter because all the oil had migrated to the bottom. Servicing the filter the day before every ride is unrealistic for me so I'm back with good old Belray and Maxima. With them, I can get more rides out of a filter without worrying that the oil is going to stay put. More rides between service saves me money and it's less work.
Replacing filters every 15-20 hours is a very good idea though.
It is Belray filter oil for me and the crummy routine of cleaning them, because servicing the filter the day before I ride is not always possible. From I have seen, just me, I don't trust that No-Toil will stay in place more than a day or two.
Cleaning filters has never been an ordeal for me and my solvents are recycled. So I've never been motivated to try something that is "easier" or "greener" that had some risks to it.
I can still be swayed. I wouldn't cost me much to buy a bottle of oil and test it. I'll see how sticky it is and how well it stays put after it dries on some filters I have laying around.
I spread it on the outside of the filter squeeze it through until I see it on the inside or the color changes on the inside, I then ring it out wipe the excess and I always use rim grease from No Toil as well.
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