Hinson Clutch Kit Differences.

7/31/2015 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2015 5:02am
Does anyone know what the difference is in these two kits besides the material of the basket? The descriptions are pretty much the same. The kit on the left is $45 more.

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7/31/2015 2:30pm
The Momentum clutch basket is made from different material and weighs more then the Billeproof basket thus the extra cost..
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Does anyone know what the difference is in these two kits besides the material of the basket? The descriptions are pretty much the same. The kit...
Does anyone know what the difference is in these two kits besides the material of the basket? The descriptions are pretty much the same. The kit on the left is $45 more.

IMO, the "momentum" basket would mimic the effects of a flywheel weight without dicking around on that side of the engine.
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8/2/2015 4:56am Edited Date/Time 8/2/2015 4:59am
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
8/2/2015 6:10am
I'd skip the hinson and go with the rekluse manual set up or the torque drive. They use 6 springs unlike the stock or hinson that uses 5. The steel plates are also different with the rekluse in that they don't drag on the inner hub as much resulting in smoother clutch action.

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8/2/2015 8:25am
DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
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8/2/2015 5:03pm
DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
How is it not the same effect???
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8/2/2015 6:18pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2015 6:20pm
DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
BobPA wrote:
How is it not the same effect???
Well technically IF you're slipping the clutch the full force from your crank output shaft wouldn't be transferred to the basket..... but he's missed the point of A rotating mass either from the inner basket and steel plates OR a flywheel weight .... same damn thing. And the outer basket would basically do the same thing. I made sure I added BASICALLY in there.... would basically mimic the effect...... whew.
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DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
BobPA wrote:
How is it not the same effect???
Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.
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DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
BobPA wrote:
How is it not the same effect???
Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than...
Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.
Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......
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8/3/2015 5:50pm
DJS721 wrote:
The basket spins at a fraction of crankshaft speed so the effect is not the same as adding a flywheel weight...
BobPA wrote:
How is it not the same effect???
Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than...
Because the faster an item is spinning, the more centrifugal force is applied due to it's increased energy. A crankshaft spins about four times faster than a clutch basket. Now, the basket is larger in diameter which increases it's energy when spinning, but adding 8 oz to a flywheel will have a greater effect then 8 oz on a clutch basket.
Bingo Matt, thanks for explaining more clearly. The real advantage is wear and tear, the steel basket MIMIC's the KTM design with regards to material.

The forged basket is the strongest aluminum design, as compared to the billet aluminum baskets (or stock die cast). Seen too many OEM and billet tangs notched in one season of riding, the forged basket will not. Barnett has a solution, Wiseco has lifetime guarantee

Best to make an informed decision RoflCopter is asking the right questions, that's a lot of cabbage and you don't want to spend it twice


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8/6/2015 1:51am
MxKing809 wrote:
Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......
please explain to me which bike has a clutch basket attached directly to the crank? primary gear>basket primary>basket secondary>idler>kick its not quite 4:1 on the basket but maybe 2.5:1 and the steel basket does not IN MY EXPERIENCE have as noticeable an effect as a flywheel weight, although the steel construction has helped many a privateer make it through a few seasons without destroying major clutch components.
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8/6/2015 5:02am
MxKing809 wrote:
Please explain how a fully engaged clutch which is attached to the crank output shaft spins 4 times slower.......
DTHA70 wrote:
please explain to me which bike has a clutch basket attached directly to the crank? primary gear>basket primary>basket secondary>idler>kick its not quite 4:1 on the basket...
please explain to me which bike has a clutch basket attached directly to the crank? primary gear>basket primary>basket secondary>idler>kick its not quite 4:1 on the basket but maybe 2.5:1 and the steel basket does not IN MY EXPERIENCE have as noticeable an effect as a flywheel weight, although the steel construction has helped many a privateer make it through a few seasons without destroying major clutch components.
Husqvarna 449/511.. Just sayin!

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