Anyone got any photo question?

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Post them here and I'll try to answer them as best I can. Anything from camera set-up to Photoshop sharpening settings.
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11/18/2007 7:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
What's your secret? :D No, actually my question is, when shooting, how do you choose who to shoot, and do you generally take pictures of every rider? Do you do riders at all once in a certain section or do you shoot many section of the track from one area, and go from shooting a jump to a turn and back? I'm sorry if my question is confusing. Thanks
11/19/2007 6:30am
When I started I shot almost every rider at a national and sometimes that worked out if they ended up being a star rider but most of the time it just wasted film so I became more selective and these days I shoot the riders my clients pay me to or the riders I have a pretty good idea will sell. I find a spot and might shoot that for a couple laps and then move on to a new place but I hardly ever try to shoot more than one part of the track from the same location although sometimes that works. I try to find a section of track that has cool action and then find a vantage point where I can shoot from that will give me a nice background, no porta-cans, ambulances, track workers, dumpsters or general trackside junk. And remember that the sun moves, a spot that's nice in the morning might be awful at 2:00PM and then at 6:00PM be great again. The best time to shoot at a National is in the first two practices then in the last 450 moto.
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11/19/2007 10:42am
Bad Billy Ursic hooked me up today with those wallpapers, sure was a nice surprise.

I think it's too late to do an 08 calendar but I might have to do one for 09.

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11/19/2007 11:43am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote:poytuqq2]then find a vantage point where I can shoot from that will give me a nice background, no porta-cans, ambulances, track workers, dumpsters or general trackside junk. [/quote:poytuqq2]

Well, that's a trick . . . :D
11/19/2007 12:22pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
Yeah Mike you know first hand what a challenge it can be, sometimes I feel like a photo surgeon trying to cut out the tiniest peice of the track that looks good. Sometimes you just can't so that's when a 300 2.8 comes in handy like this shot of Ricky from Highpoint, this jump was awesome but I really didn't like that row of portacans in the background so I switched over to AV mode picked f2.8 as my lens setting and hoped that the out houses would get blurred enough to be un-offensive.
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11/19/2007 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
Paul how should I go about sending a few good shots that i think magazines might be able to use? I have emailed a couple of photos to mags this year but no response.

I normally go to Irish GP, British GP and MX of Nations, should I maybe be trying to sell the photos to companies for adverts?

Here a link to a few shots from this years british gp [url:6tj03ixp]http://www.pmccphotography.com/British_GP_Wallpapers/index.html[/url:6t…]
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11/19/2007 1:34pm
Arenacross/Indoor sports photography. It seems to be the most difficult for me. What do you suggest, Mode & ISO? Just can't seem to get it right. [b:2wo3xltu]TIPS Please[/b:2wo3xltu]. (Nikon user)

Thanks!
11/19/2007 2:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote="pmcc":16pjyjb7]Paul how should I go about sending a few good shots that i think magazines might be able to use? I have emailed a couple of photos to mags this year but no response.

I normally go to Irish GP, British GP and MX of Nations, should I maybe be trying to sell the photos to companies for adverts?

Here a link to a few shots from this years british gp [url:16pjyjb7]http://www.pmccphotography.com/British_GP_Wallpapers/index.html[/url:16…]

Paul you just have to keep on knocking on doors, sending emails, making calls, sending CD etc get you foot in the door. Do the same with the companies since they usually have more money than the mags do, find out who their designer is, it's usually someone in-house, not many companies hire outside agencies. Start with your prices high cause if they protest you can always come down but if you start low you can't go up.
11/19/2007 2:50pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote="BARSmx":nolbipkw]Arenacross/Indoor sports photography. It seems to be the most difficult for me. What do you suggest, Mode & ISO? Just can't seem to get it right. [b:nolbipkw]TIPS Please[/b:nolbipkw]. (Nikon user)

Thanks![/quote:nolbipkw]

Try this AV mode, f4.5-5.6 ISO 200-400 ambient exposure compensation -2 to -3 stops, flash on TTL less exp compensation = more background blur which can be cool sometimes. Arenas are usually darker than stadiums so flash is more necessary in them. Try shooting ambient light at SX stadiums use 800-1600 ISO and manual mode, meter off something like the dirt then look at your cameras histogram to make sure the highlights aren't blown out or the shadows filled in. You might get 500 at f4.0 in a good stadium.
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11/19/2007 4:32pm
After looking at my settings from last season I can tell I was going the wrong way trying get the right light.

Thanks, I'll give it a try later this week.
11/19/2007 5:38pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote="BARSmx":1hopowir]After looking at my settings from last season I can tell I was going the wrong way trying get the right light.

Thanks, I'll give it a try later this week.[/quote:1hopowir]

Post an example or two and we'll take a look to see how the new settings are working for you.
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11/19/2007 8:01pm
Hey those aren't bad shots, the KTM pic's pretty good and well exposed. In the two jump photos it looks like the camera was fooled by the ceiling lights so manual mode would have helped there. The track looks like an indoor practice facility so that's probably even darker than your typical arenacross venue, if that's the case shooting ambient might be out of the question.
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11/19/2007 11:56pm
Hey Paul, big fan of your pics, and very cool that your willing to give advice. If I posted some pics, could you give an opinion on what needs to be done to make them better?
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11/20/2007 10:22am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote="Paul Buckley":iejcdigb]Sure Trip, post a few.[/quote:iejcdigb]

Ok, here are a few I think came out good, but please rip them apart, whether it's something I can fix in photoshop, or a setting? Thanks!!

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11/20/2007 11:37am
Trip I'd just work on backgrounds, a few feet to the left or the right might have made a big difference. Also you might try one of the outer AF sensors, like in the Grant photo if he was more over to the right of the frame and the left side of the photo was all roost, now that would have been much better and that way more of the fence and fallen down banner would have been out of the pic (that woulda been a good thing!). Try cloudy white balance to warm up the colors even on a sunny day.
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11/21/2007 3:07pm
You the man, Paul!
I'll think up some questions later and post.
Mainly about flashes, non-moto type stuff.

What's your email so I can send over a couple samples to ask about?

Thanks!
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11/21/2007 4:33pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
[quote="Spinner":244uqexa]You the man, Paul!
I'll think up some questions later and post.
Mainly about flashes, non-moto type stuff.

What's your email so I can send over a couple samples to ask about?

Thanks!
Chuck[/quote:244uqexa]


Spinner, post the pics here so we can all see what he says.
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11/21/2007 9:25pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:03pm
Paul, thanks for the tips, these turned out much better. It's amazing what a few settings will do for a photo. U Da Man!!

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11/22/2007 12:17am
Hey BARSmx those are a ton better, you did great. Try some at -1 to -1 1/2 ambient exp comp to get some more blur into the background or if you were using manual mode try lowering the shutter speed 1 step for each shot and take around 8-10 pics at the same jump to see what the different shutter speeds get you. Start at 1/250 and go lower from there.
The guys in Ohio are going to like these photos, keep it up.
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11/22/2007 9:14am
Thanks for the advice! This thread is a great idea
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11/22/2007 12:01pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:04pm
Hey Paul,

I learned how to shoot manual from one of my buddys... and his pics are always sick with like the sunny orange and look awesome... well i had him set up my camera the same way... and the shots dont come out anything like his. Its like they have way too much blue in them... i finally just cleared his settings the other day... and dont see much difference... here is what manual looks like for me...
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Heres my buddies...
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I want them to have that afternoon sun to them... but it never happens like that...

When i shoot on Sport mode... they go back to normal...
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11/22/2007 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:04pm
Squid, the exposure mode doesn't affect the color tone of the photo, that's more a result of the time of day and the white balance set on the camera. Try this, shoot a couple photos in a turn at noon, then a couple more at 2:00PM then a couple more at 4:00PM and finally a couple more at 6:00PM, I think you'll like the shots later in the day a lot better. But I know there are times when you can't say "Hey Mr Whitelock, can we run this moto when the light's better, say around five?" So try this too, at 2:00 shoot a couple shots on auto white balance, a couple on sun, a couple on cloudy and if you can a couple on custom WB. Stay in the same spot, use the same exposure mode just chage the WB setting. Finding the best angle for the worst light just takes practice but when the light's really bad (first 250F moto at a national) I like to shoot backlit and let the open sky illuminate the rider instead of direct sun.
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11/22/2007 6:10pm
ok ill try that... i cant find any examples to show you... but ive tried shooting all throughout the day... and they come out like that... just all blue...

I am photo illiterate and have been shooting on sport mode since i started... and i just started trying manual... but would changing the parameters, color tone, sharpness, contrast, and saturation have anything to do with the colors? cuz it seems like no matter what time of the day it is... they are nothing like the shots i see from others manual?
11/22/2007 6:51pm
Squid what camera do you have? Let me know and I'll find a pdf of it's manual online somewhere and get you some good settings
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11/22/2007 7:16pm
I think I'd pay $30 for this kind of help. Thanks Paul, great stuff.

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