11/18/2007 4:06 PM
Anyone got any photo question?
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
Post them here and I'll try to answer them as best I can. Anything from camera set-up to Photoshop sharpening settings.
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cr12500 (MD)Posts: 10 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/19/2007 3:12 AM What's your secret? s:D
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Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/19/2007 2:30 PM When I started I shot almost every rider at a national and sometimes that worked out if they ended up being a star rider but most of the time it just wasted film so I became more selective and these days I shoot the riders my clients pay me to or the riders I have a pretty good idea will sell. I find a spot and might shoot that for a couple laps and then move on to a new place but I hardly ever try to shoot more than one part of the track from the same location although sometimes that works. I try to find a section of track that has cool action and then find a vantage point where I can shoot from that will give me a nice background, no porta-cans, ambulances, track workers, dumpsters or general trackside junk. And remember that the sun moves, a spot that's nice in the morning might be awful at 2:00PM and then at 6:00PM be great again. The best time to shoot at a National is in the first two practices then in the last 450 moto.
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Trinitite (MD)Posts: 269 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/19/2007 6:03 PM Nice collection of your work on RacerX today! (sans an RV shot s
Are you going to put out a 2008 calendar? ![]() |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/19/2007 6:42 PM Bad Billy Ursic hooked me up today with those wallpapers, sure was a nice surprise.
I think it's too late to do an 08 calendar but I might have to do one for 09. |
FreshTopEndPosts: 552 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
11/19/2007 7:43 PM ![]() then find a vantage point where I can shoot from that will give me a nice background, no porta-cans, ambulances, track workers, dumpsters or general trackside junk. Well, that's a trick . . . s:D ![]() |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/19/2007 8:22 PM Yeah Mike you know first hand what a challenge it can be, sometimes I feel like a photo surgeon trying to cut out the tiniest peice of the track that looks good. Sometimes you just can't so that's when a 300 2.8 comes in handy like this shot of Ricky from Highpoint, this jump was awesome but I really didn't like that row of portacans in the background so I switched over to AV mode picked f2.8 as my lens setting and hoped that the out houses would get blurred enough to be un-offensive.
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pmccPosts: 4 Joined: 9/17/2006 Location: |
11/19/2007 8:55 PM Paul how should I go about sending a few good shots that i think magazines might be able to use? I have emailed a couple of photos to mags this year but no response.
I normally go to Irish GP, British GP and MX of Nations, should I maybe be trying to sell the photos to companies for adverts? Here a link to a few shots from this years british gp http://www.pmccphotography.com/British_GP_Wallpapers/index.html |
BARSmxPosts: 15 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
11/19/2007 9:34 PM Arenacross/Indoor sports photography. It seems to be the most difficult for me. What do you suggest, Mode & ISO? Just can't seem to get it right. TIPS Please. (Nikon user)
Thanks! |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/19/2007 10:35 PM ![]() ![]() Paul you just have to keep on knocking on doors, sending emails, making calls, sending CD etc get you foot in the door. Do the same with the companies since they usually have more money than the mags do, find out who their designer is, it's usually someone in-house, not many companies hire outside agencies. Start with your prices high cause if they protest you can always come down but if you start low you can't go up. |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/19/2007 10:50 PM ![]() . (Nikon user)Thanks! Try this AV mode, f4.5-5.6 ISO 200-400 ambient exposure compensation -2 to -3 stops, flash on TTL less exp compensation = more background blur which can be cool sometimes. Arenas are usually darker than stadiums so flash is more necessary in them. Try shooting ambient light at SX stadiums use 800-1600 ISO and manual mode, meter off something like the dirt then look at your cameras histogram to make sure the highlights aren't blown out or the shadows filled in. You might get 500 at f4.0 in a good stadium. |
BARSmxPosts: 15 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
11/20/2007 12:32 AM After looking at my settings from last season I can tell I was going the wrong way trying get the right light.
Thanks, I'll give it a try later this week. |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/20/2007 1:38 AM ![]() After looking at my settings from last season I can tell I was going the wrong way trying get the right light.Thanks, I'll give it a try later this week. Post an example or two and we'll take a look to see how the new settings are working for you. |
BARSmxPosts: 15 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
11/20/2007 2:20 AM BAD shots... but I'm learning.
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Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/20/2007 4:01 AM Hey those aren't bad shots, the KTM pic's pretty good and well exposed. In the two jump photos it looks like the camera was fooled by the ceiling lights so manual mode would have helped there. The track looks like an indoor practice facility so that's probably even darker than your typical arenacross venue, if that's the case shooting ambient might be out of the question.
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TripPosts: 361 Joined: 8/01/2006 Location: |
11/20/2007 7:56 AM Hey Paul, big fan of your pics, and very cool that your willing to give advice. If I posted some pics, could you give an opinion on what needs to be done to make them better?
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Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/20/2007 12:32 PM Sure Trip, post a few.
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TripPosts: 361 Joined: 8/01/2006 Location: |
11/20/2007 6:22 PM ![]() Sure Trip, post a few. |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/20/2007 7:37 PM Trip I'd just work on backgrounds, a few feet to the left or the right might have made a big difference. Also you might try one of the outer AF sensors, like in the Grant photo if he was more over to the right of the frame and the left side of the photo was all roost, now that would have been much better and that way more of the fence and fallen down banner would have been out of the pic (that woulda been a good thing!). Try cloudy white balance to warm up the colors even on a sunny day.
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Stanford421Posts: 10 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/21/2007 1:56 AM GREAT THREAD!! Paul, thanks for doing this.
"You bickering pricks are worse than a bunch of ole hens at a bridge party." ~The immortal words of Bobby M.~ |
Spinner (MD)Posts: 195 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/21/2007 11:07 PM You the man, Paul!
I'll think up some questions later and post. Mainly about flashes, non-moto type stuff. What's your email so I can send over a couple samples to ask about? Thanks! Chuck "I wanna learn how to blow shit up using my mind." |
TripPosts: 361 Joined: 8/01/2006 Location: |
11/22/2007 12:33 AM ![]() You the man, Paul!I'll think up some questions later and post. Mainly about flashes, non-moto type stuff. What's your email so I can send over a couple samples to ask about? Thanks! Chuck Spinner, post the pics here so we can all see what he says. |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/22/2007 3:16 AM Yeah Chuck, post them here, that way everyone can see what's going on.
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BARSmxPosts: 15 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location: |
11/22/2007 5:25 AM Paul, thanks for the tips, these turned out much better. It's amazing what a few settings will do for a photo. U Da Man!!
Tonights practice at Ohio Motocross Arena Nicholas Story |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/22/2007 8:17 AM Hey BARSmx those are a ton better, you did great. Try some at -1 to -1 1/2 ambient exp comp to get some more blur into the background or if you were using manual mode try lowering the shutter speed 1 step for each shot and take around 8-10 pics at the same jump to see what the different shutter speeds get you. Start at 1/250 and go lower from there.
The guys in Ohio are going to like these photos, keep it up. |
pmccPosts: 4 Joined: 9/17/2006 Location: |
11/22/2007 5:14 PM Thanks for the advice! This thread is a great idea
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squid48Posts: 112 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/22/2007 8:01 PM Hey Paul,
I learned how to shoot manual from one of my buddys... and his pics are always sick with like the sunny orange and look awesome... well i had him set up my camera the same way... and the shots dont come out anything like his. Its like they have way too much blue in them... i finally just cleared his settings the other day... and dont see much difference... here is what manual looks like for me... ![]() www.48Photos.com |
Paul BuckleyPosts: 106 Joined: 10/29/2007 Location: |
11/23/2007 1:51 AM Squid, the exposure mode doesn't affect the color tone of the photo, that's more a result of the time of day and the white balance set on the camera. Try this, shoot a couple photos in a turn at noon, then a couple more at 2:00PM then a couple more at 4:00PM and finally a couple more at 6:00PM, I think you'll like the shots later in the day a lot better. But I know there are times when you can't say "Hey Mr Whitelock, can we run this moto when the light's better, say around five?" So try this too, at 2:00 shoot a couple shots on auto white balance, a couple on sun, a couple on cloudy and if you can a couple on custom WB. Stay in the same spot, use the same exposure mode just chage the WB setting. Finding the best angle for the worst light just takes practice but when the light's really bad (first 250F moto at a national) I like to shoot backlit and let the open sky illuminate the rider instead of direct sun.
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squid48Posts: 112 Joined: 4/02/2008 Location: |
11/23/2007 2:10 AM ok ill try that... i cant find any examples to show you... but ive tried shooting all throughout the day... and they come out like that... just all blue... I am photo illiterate and have been shooting on sport mode since i started... and i just started trying manual... but would changing the parameters, color tone, sharpness, contrast, and saturation have anything to do with the colors? cuz it seems like no matter what time of the day it is... they are nothing like the shots i see from others manual? |







Paul Buckley wrote: Post them here and I'll try to answer them as best I can. Anything from camera set-up to Photoshop sharpening settings.