new 250 project

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Edited Date/Time 4/8/2015 11:20am
Here is my new project, a clean and solid start.

First off will be newer suspension. I have an '11 crf 250 front end as well as the shock. These are extra parts so I thought I might try and make the swap. The front will be simple, the rear... That might take a little creativity.
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6/3/2014 4:57pm
That IS a nice clean example. Looks like somebody took good care of it.

Good luck getting an Aluminum frame shock to fit your steelie. Different
shock body to reservoir angle, different clevis, different linkage...should
be interesting.

dogger
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6/4/2014 9:59am
There was a build where the owner used '00-'01 CR250 rear end, shock, linkage and swingarm. It did require some mods, but it gives me some ideas. I would just like to have it handle better and be able to get the correct springs for my size.
6/4/2014 12:14pm
I'd like a Bradshaw era YZ to add to my collection and a 95 CR 250 or 500 original looking like this. Nice bike!
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6/4/2014 12:22pm
I hear you, but it would probably be a lot easier to go with something like an Ohlins rear shock.
I had Pro Circuit revalve and spring the OE shock on my '93 and it worked really good. You get
more adjustability and some other nice features with the newer stuff, but the forks were the weak
point on the steelies. Upgrading those and then getting your shock dialed in to match will
provide a sweet ride and save you a lot of work and money.

If I had a "Purple" CR, I would concentrate on restoring it back to it's original condition appearance
wise with subtle upgrades to the brakes and suspension to make a good bike even better. These
bikes from the "neon" era really stand out in a sea of Aluminum.

dogger

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Here is my new project, a clean and solid start.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/03/55762/s1200_1995cr.jpg[/img] First off will be newer suspension. I have an '11 crf 250 front end as well...
Here is my new project, a clean and solid start.

First off will be newer suspension. I have an '11 crf 250 front end as well as the shock. These are extra parts so I thought I might try and make the swap. The front will be simple, the rear... That might take a little creativity.
Damn, I am jealous! I saw that bike on Sacramento Craigslist and I didn't have the money to even make an offer. Nice find man. Congrats! I live in Orangevale. Maybe we can compare notes or trade parts if needed.
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6/6/2014 12:34pm
How long ago was it listed? I have had this for about 7 months.... Just now getting to it. TOO many projects
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6/6/2014 1:23pm
Man, I don't remember but it's possible it was that long ago. I remember just glancing at it for a second and remembering how clean and all original it was. I am only assuming it was your same bike. The pic was really grainy and the left side of the bike, leaned against a wall on the right side...if that sounds about right. Dry
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6/6/2014 2:45pm
I'm loaning it to WORKS CONNECTION for a bit so that they can make some hard goods. After that, it's time for some attention.
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6/6/2014 4:02pm
Awesome. It's funny, my buddy texted me yesterday asking if I had or knew of a 94/5/6 cr250 for WC to use for a template. Small world I ended up talking to you.
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6/17/2014 12:20pm
I have two front suspension options for this bike:
2011 showa CRf 250 or 2004 CRf 450 showa goods. I'd like the 11' stuff since it is all reworked by PC. Just not sure on the 11' front fender? Thoughts?
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6/17/2014 3:52pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2014 3:54pm
I would think the most current suspension would be the best choice
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6/17/2014 5:49pm
Same thought here. Has anyone seen a FLO RED 09'+ crf front fender? If I run my 11' goods' I'll run white on the front. Shouldn't look too bad?
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I want this so bad it's not even funny, I'd love to have a 92-96 Cr 125 or 250 in my garage right now. I'd sell my 92 YZ in a heartbeat
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>I want this so bad it's not even funny, I'd love to have a 92-96 Cr 125 or 250 in my garage right now.

If so, try sending a PM to Vital MX "nine1seven." He has a restored '96 CR250 McGrath clone he has wanted to sell. he's restored about 8 of these years (including the '93 in my avatar) and is the guy to go for the full-on, actual, silk-screened '96 graphics kits.

Be aware that he knows the bike's value, so if the idea is, "I'd love to have a really nice steelie, but my budget is $500" -- then chances are not real good you two will be compatible.
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6/18/2014 10:37am
Depending on your funds, there a few on my local Craigslist.
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Same thought here. Has anyone seen a FLO RED 09'+ crf front fender? If I run my 11' goods' I'll run white on the front. Shouldn't...
Same thought here. Has anyone seen a FLO RED 09'+ crf front fender? If I run my 11' goods' I'll run white on the front. Shouldn't look too bad?
What am I missing Kelroy Leon? Why can't you switch fenders? A 3/16 drill bit and a cordless drill will make a older fender fit newer forks. Don't run a new style fender. That will look stupid
6/19/2014 3:47am
Seconded.

(Unless they have a different braced mounting for rigidity like the '14 KTMs do.

If it's 4 bolts in the underside, you make it fit.

I have a '90/91 mudguard on '08 yokes.
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>I want this so bad it's not even funny, I'd love to have a 92-96 Cr 125 or 250 in my garage right now. If so...
>I want this so bad it's not even funny, I'd love to have a 92-96 Cr 125 or 250 in my garage right now.

If so, try sending a PM to Vital MX "nine1seven." He has a restored '96 CR250 McGrath clone he has wanted to sell. he's restored about 8 of these years (including the '93 in my avatar) and is the guy to go for the full-on, actual, silk-screened '96 graphics kits.

Be aware that he knows the bike's value, so if the idea is, "I'd love to have a really nice steelie, but my budget is $500" -- then chances are not real good you two will be compatible.
We need to ask Scottie to make a sticky to not to ask 917 for anything but premium prices on graphics or to ask if he would sell or for dimensions of any trick factory parts he has access to.
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6/19/2014 6:37am Edited Date/Time 6/19/2014 6:39am
>We need to ask Scottie to make a sticky to not to ask 917 for anything but premium prices on graphics or to ask if he would sell or for dimensions of any trick factory parts he has access to.

Apologies if my post came off the wrong way. I was just saying that 917 has bought and sold a lot of parts for these bikes -- and helped a lot of folks with their restos, too, I should also add-- "and I don't think he's looking for a swap or a quick sale." That's all.

917's helped me A TON on my own projects, and introduced me to a great set of fellow "old school" buddies. He's been a friend-- and a good one-- for over 5 years. I've quite satisfactorily done a number of deals with him during this time.

So if I sounded anti, or otherwise negative, I phrased my response wrongly, and this was my mistake.
6/19/2014 7:49am
Wow!!

That is so clean.

I'd be leaning towards a faithful OEM-spec refurb. Would be a shame to modify it much...
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6/19/2014 9:11am
Same thought here. Has anyone seen a FLO RED 09'+ crf front fender? If I run my 11' goods' I'll run white on the front. Shouldn't...
Same thought here. Has anyone seen a FLO RED 09'+ crf front fender? If I run my 11' goods' I'll run white on the front. Shouldn't look too bad?
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What am I missing Kelroy Leon? Why can't you switch fenders? A 3/16 drill bit and a cordless drill will make a older fender fit newer...
What am I missing Kelroy Leon? Why can't you switch fenders? A 3/16 drill bit and a cordless drill will make a older fender fit newer forks. Don't run a new style fender. That will look stupid
The 09'+ CRf clamps run a staggered mount. Still 4 bolts but on two different planes. It is still a simple fix, the rear of the fender would mate to the clamp. The front mounting bolts just need a bar stock spacer. the only other concern would be the height required for a front plate.
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Picked it up from the guy at WORKS CONNECTION yesterday. The skid plate wasn't completed yet but a nice new set of frame guards were with it. I'm planning to start on it this weekend, still planning on the '11 front suspension for it with the '95 front plastics. Should I use my oem Honda clamps or the ride engineering? Thoughts?
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7/25/2014 1:36pm


Time to go back to the drawing board. By 1995, Honda’s ineptitude at producing a decent set of forks was taking on legendary status. Even a switch to competitor Kayaba from longtime partner Showa was not enough to turn the tide for Honda. The new KYB’s were just as harsh and poorly set up as the Showa’s had been the year before.
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What tubes are these? Mine has a two piece tube.
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7/25/2014 2:20pm
Slipdog (Brian Roth) is the suspension guy around the NorCal region. Search his name on here. He might be able to help you out. Chances are, you already know him though.Wink
7/25/2014 11:12pm
Why to change suspensions?
that bike handle so good with its own ones.
Moreover its value would go down because won't be genuine parts anymore..
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re: suspension... I had a 92CR 250. Factory Connection did my suspension and the difference was magical. I don't know what works suspension is like, but the difference made me feel like I had it. They had/have some good numbers for the last steel framed CRs.
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My reason for the suspension change is the fact that I can not get the correct springs for the front. I can get them for 92-94 showa's or newer stuff. If I am going to ride this bike I might as well set it up for myself? I am in no way a pro and honestly will probably ride it a handful of times a year. I have a spread of suspensions, Ohlins to showa A kit. I just want to enjoy it when I ride it. I will keep the original items and do not plan on permanent mods.
7/27/2014 7:54pm
My reason for the suspension change is the fact that I can not get the correct springs for the front. I can get them for 92-94...
My reason for the suspension change is the fact that I can not get the correct springs for the front. I can get them for 92-94 showa's or newer stuff. If I am going to ride this bike I might as well set it up for myself? I am in no way a pro and honestly will probably ride it a handful of times a year. I have a spread of suspensions, Ohlins to showa A kit. I just want to enjoy it when I ride it. I will keep the original items and do not plan on permanent mods.
All right.
That makes sense.
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I'll be using the extra oem clamps that I have, I will need to remove the tabs for the 09+ number plate and add a boss tor the front plate bolt. I will also have to see how the lower mount for the oem 09+ stabilizer fits with the older 95 front plate.
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Unless you got a set of aftermarket really cheap or just have too much money I think the OEM clamps are the way to go. Maybe file the casting marks and give them a factory look of brushed aluminum or leave them alone.
I'm with you on the it's my bike to ride and I'll make it as good as it can be idea. That's why I used the conventional Showas on my KX. I didn't build my bike to look at. Although I have been looking at it a lot. I really need time to finish itp

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