former mini stars part 2

watty wrote: How about Kehoe, Holland, Lachein, Blake, Meredith, Kurt Henrickson, Paul Denis, Shaun Kalos....those guys could get it done.

watty wrote: How about Kehoe, Holland, Lachein, Blake, Meredith, Kurt Henrickson, Paul Denis, Shaun Kalos....those guys could get it done.

nicks dad wrote: kehoe runs team honda mx,lechien works for maxima oil,his dads company,i think holland works for his family's farm.henricksen has an mx school,and i think he builds the track for the world mini gp

nicks dad wrote: kehoe runs team honda mx,lechien works for maxima oil,his dads company,i think holland works for his family's farm.henricksen has an mx school,and i think he builds the track for the world mini gp

evomx244 (MD) wrote: I just pull out my old beta player, Yes I said Beta ! I watching some old tapes I have, anyways I just got done watching a 1986 Carlsbad 125 pro race (taped from Country Music Network) George Holland won both motos but there were a few guys I was wondering what ever happen too. Willi Surrat and Eddie Hicks both guys were running in the top ten. Last Night I watch a 1986 Hidden Hero's featuring Broc Glover/Team Yamaha pretty cool stuff

evomx244 (MD) wrote: I just pull out my old beta player, Yes I said Beta ! I watching some old tapes I have, anyways I just got done watching a 1986 Carlsbad 125 pro race (taped from Country Music Network) George Holland won both motos but there were a few guys I was wondering what ever happen too. Willi Surrat and Eddie Hicks both guys were running in the top ten. Last Night I watch a 1986 Hidden Hero's featuring Broc Glover/Team Yamaha pretty cool stuff

04warrior wrote: What about the J H Racing guy's Bill Jewett and Joey Hamilton. Seemed like Hamilton was always battling with Whiting, Ricky
Johnson, Burnworth at the NMA nationals.

04warrior wrote: What about the J H Racing guy's Bill Jewett and Joey Hamilton. Seemed like Hamilton was always battling with Whiting, Ricky
Johnson, Burnworth at the NMA nationals.

nicks dad wrote: eddie hicks raced the world vet championships at glen helen 1-2 yrs ago,it was in mxa.i think willie surrat got some press lately,possibly an mx school. how did guys like myerscough stay on 80cc bikes at 15-16 yrs old.my 15 yr old son is 5-7 and i cant imagine him on a 1976 yz-80.he rides my 450 better than me

nicks dad wrote: eddie hicks raced the world vet championships at glen helen 1-2 yrs ago,it was in mxa.i think willie surrat got some press lately,possibly an mx school. how did guys like myerscough stay on 80cc bikes at 15-16 yrs old.my 15 yr old son is 5-7 and i cant imagine him on a 1976 yz-80.he rides my 450 better than me

andymoto wrote: remembering eddie hicks the next BOB HANNAH....too bad.
Paul Denis was another that was thought to have a future, rode a few Pro races SoCal...poof; gone outta thin air.
How about eddie warren?
Cantaloupi was a 100cc machine. My best friend Steve Parker used to get frustrated that Donnie would beat him and he'd be second most all the time.
I asked Spoor but he didn't remember norcal Team Green Tim Aston that was slated for full factory 125 until his street bike accident like in '82 or 3. Unfortunately, Dean Matson's dad George told me he passed away in 2005. Any you oldies remember Tim, he was smooth and ungodly fast. Remember seeing him in mid to later 80's on the clear/cream it seemed; he was soo huge; arms like tree trunks. God speed Tim.
Wasnt there a mini kid named Vlatch thinking on YZ's that was another?
Remember when E st had Golden State and both Holland/Kehoe on fact. RMs. Think George rode 125/Eric 250 that day.
cant forget hollywood holley.
Being part 2; all may have been mentioned.

andymoto wrote: remembering eddie hicks the next BOB HANNAH....too bad.
Paul Denis was another that was thought to have a future, rode a few Pro races SoCal...poof; gone outta thin air.
How about eddie warren?
Cantaloupi was a 100cc machine. My best friend Steve Parker used to get frustrated that Donnie would beat him and he'd be second most all the time.
I asked Spoor but he didn't remember norcal Team Green Tim Aston that was slated for full factory 125 until his street bike accident like in '82 or 3. Unfortunately, Dean Matson's dad George told me he passed away in 2005. Any you oldies remember Tim, he was smooth and ungodly fast. Remember seeing him in mid to later 80's on the clear/cream it seemed; he was soo huge; arms like tree trunks. God speed Tim.
Wasnt there a mini kid named Vlatch thinking on YZ's that was another?
Remember when E st had Golden State and both Holland/Kehoe on fact. RMs. Think George rode 125/Eric 250 that day.
cant forget hollywood holley.
Being part 2; all may have been mentioned.

Bill163 wrote: I think Paul Denis crashed trying to qualify for the 82 Saddleback national and suffered a bad head Injury that almost killed him.

Bill163 wrote: I think Paul Denis crashed trying to qualify for the 82 Saddleback national and suffered a bad head Injury that almost killed him.

watty wrote: Bader Maneh used to haul the mail as well!

watty wrote: Bader Maneh used to haul the mail as well!

andymoto wrote: and Buddy Antunez if you want to go into later mini guys. fastest mini guy I ever seen.
Too bad about Denis; he was wiping everyones a$$ as an amateur mini; just never seemed the same against big bikes even though he had his share of wins.
Watch for that Jesse Vanderpool kid currently........He is that good.

andymoto wrote: and Buddy Antunez if you want to go into later mini guys. fastest mini guy I ever seen.
Too bad about Denis; he was wiping everyones a$$ as an amateur mini; just never seemed the same against big bikes even though he had his share of wins.
Watch for that Jesse Vanderpool kid currently........He is that good.

jpracer wrote: George Holland farms almonds in his home town in central cal,just got inducted into the Fresno Hall of Fame along side Billy Vucovich

jpracer wrote: George Holland farms almonds in his home town in central cal,just got inducted into the Fresno Hall of Fame along side Billy Vucovich

mx317 wrote: Anybody remember Gene McKay? He was one of our local guys that won a national minicycle championship over Jeff Ward.

mx317 wrote: Anybody remember Gene McKay? He was one of our local guys that won a national minicycle championship over Jeff Ward.

CamP wrote:

I saw him in an Italian SX recently. How old is he now? 40?

CamP wrote:

I saw him in an Italian SX recently. How old is he now? 40?

andymoto wrote:

He'd tried earlier in year to Q for National Mains; didn't make any. I thought just under 40..
I just "love" the way they do National Q now on time trials......sucks especially since you know someone will get in your way eventually. That time trials stuff was old dirt track stuff my cousin Rusty Rogers used to do......MX ain't dirt track...and trying to combine what Europe does with US National MX.....something is smelling funny like a takeover of somesort. My head is still up a$$......Did even this yrs Hangtown purse make it to 40,000K?
Let 'em race their way into the program; oops hold their hand into the program instead...I got issues with how big the sport is and the ones that still get the boot up their...is the 30-40 place guys, even though purse money by now should have increased tenfold but with AMA, Promoters Group and whoever does SX, it's a travesty. Don't even think a win is more than 3-5 grand per moto. Wanna get more riders, real riders; purses should be 100,000K; no less.
Sorry to get off base.

andymoto wrote:

He'd tried earlier in year to Q for National Mains; didn't make any. I thought just under 40..
I just "love" the way they do National Q now on time trials......sucks especially since you know someone will get in your way eventually. That time trials stuff was old dirt track stuff my cousin Rusty Rogers used to do......MX ain't dirt track...and trying to combine what Europe does with US National MX.....something is smelling funny like a takeover of somesort. My head is still up a$$......Did even this yrs Hangtown purse make it to 40,000K?
Let 'em race their way into the program; oops hold their hand into the program instead...I got issues with how big the sport is and the ones that still get the boot up their...is the 30-40 place guys, even though purse money by now should have increased tenfold but with AMA, Promoters Group and whoever does SX, it's a travesty. Don't even think a win is more than 3-5 grand per moto. Wanna get more riders, real riders; purses should be 100,000K; no less.
Sorry to get off base.

humyam wrote: I remember Gene McKay. I raced with him in Y-AMA Nationals in '74, finishing second behind him in Shreveport and third behind him and Shaun Kelley in Iowa. Ran into him again at the World Mini the same year and again in the Pros in '76 Nationals. Good guy. Anybody no how to get in tough with him?

humyam wrote: I remember Gene McKay. I raced with him in Y-AMA Nationals in '74, finishing second behind him in Shreveport and third behind him and Shaun Kelley in Iowa. Ran into him again at the World Mini the same year and again in the Pros in '76 Nationals. Good guy. Anybody no how to get in tough with him?

ThePipe wrote: How about Hammerin Hank Moree

ThePipe wrote: How about Hammerin Hank Moree

BDOG (MD) wrote:

Runs his dads quail farm in S.C. KW 859 used to wax him. Moree would pull up in his motorhome and Walker in their pick up and Moree would be sucking hind tit.

BDOG (MD) wrote:

Runs his dads quail farm in S.C. KW 859 used to wax him. Moree would pull up in his motorhome and Walker in their pick up and Moree would be sucking hind tit.

lukaitis9 wrote:

I think he went to Australian after his Kawasaki ride.

lukaitis9 wrote:

I think he went to Australian after his Kawasaki ride.

UpTiTe wrote:

yea he did. I think that KTM ride ruined him.
What about Troy Blake Dominated 80x class for two years then dominate INTs and local pros then ridews for factory Yamaha for one year then gone.

UpTiTe wrote:

yea he did. I think that KTM ride ruined him.
What about Troy Blake Dominated 80x class for two years then dominate INTs and local pros then ridews for factory Yamaha for one year then gone.

Cabro wrote:

Bader lives in italy now and he has been an FMI(italian AMA) coach years ago.He does some test for KTM on production bikes and also follow some italian young riders.He is still fast and races MX3 gps,italian nationals and sx.He speaks italian very well and I think 50% of italian motocrossers meet him!!!

Cabro wrote:

Bader lives in italy now and he has been an FMI(italian AMA) coach years ago.He does some test for KTM on production bikes and also follow some italian young riders.He is still fast and races MX3 gps,italian nationals and sx.He speaks italian very well and I think 50% of italian motocrossers meet him!!!

andymoto wrote:

Doesn't Hendricksen's dad run the cash cow?

andymoto wrote:

Doesn't Hendricksen's dad run the cash cow?

andymoto wrote:

We met him when I was wrenching for Scott Davis (#85 in '00) at Phoenix SX in later '90s; and Scott went to Italy on an invite from him for a local race and kind of jumping contest-we watch the video Davis got from someone shooting there. He appreciated the invite and Bader treated him like a kind of rock star. Good dude;good rider- man how some of these guys can just keep going and going and going.......Prob the 50% of them he teaches MX schools. Some good bucks there.

andymoto wrote:

We met him when I was wrenching for Scott Davis (#85 in '00) at Phoenix SX in later '90s; and Scott went to Italy on an invite from him for a local race and kind of jumping contest-we watch the video Davis got from someone shooting there. He appreciated the invite and Bader treated him like a kind of rock star. Good dude;good rider- man how some of these guys can just keep going and going and going.......Prob the 50% of them he teaches MX schools. Some good bucks there.

andymoto wrote:

Unfortunately, the story with most.....Take Rick Reynard or even Damon Bradshaw; win every amateur national thing; Reynard wins first National he enters, but can't put full season together. Bradshaw, who I really thought was going to be dominating like RC was wins first one or two; breaks ankle. Then next year or following yr, only has to finish like 3rd and he like had that year he could start dead last and almost win; he decides to try park Chicken in Vegas(?) and takes himself out then chokes in LA to Stanton......Neither were riders that could stand the fire when they needed most. Bradshaw especially and when McG spanks him, babies out and quits. I was glad Bradshaw did win one more national on that Honda in '97; only race he wanted so bad IMO. Too bad couldn't do earlier at LA SX.
To me on national level, most gifted rider w/Reynard to be up front every race and nothing except maybe those lower level 125 SX championship. When it counted, you could've made a bundle on betting against. Wonder if any sports books take SX/MX bets.
Terry Bostard real fast mini. Got hurt couple times; No other comments.

andymoto wrote:

Unfortunately, the story with most.....Take Rick Reynard or even Damon Bradshaw; win every amateur national thing; Reynard wins first National he enters, but can't put full season together. Bradshaw, who I really thought was going to be dominating like RC was wins first one or two; breaks ankle. Then next year or following yr, only has to finish like 3rd and he like had that year he could start dead last and almost win; he decides to try park Chicken in Vegas(?) and takes himself out then chokes in LA to Stanton......Neither were riders that could stand the fire when they needed most. Bradshaw especially and when McG spanks him, babies out and quits. I was glad Bradshaw did win one more national on that Honda in '97; only race he wanted so bad IMO. Too bad couldn't do earlier at LA SX.
To me on national level, most gifted rider w/Reynard to be up front every race and nothing except maybe those lower level 125 SX championship. When it counted, you could've made a bundle on betting against. Wonder if any sports books take SX/MX bets.
Terry Bostard real fast mini. Got hurt couple times; No other comments.

andymoto wrote:

Gene McKay......wow, remember that...Wardy was suppose to be sooo invincible... Gotta give him credit for the SuperMoto stuff, but now the dirt trackers like Burkhart will IMO will start dominating since most ride trails/mx in off-season, not sx. Wardy drives Indy and almost wins, wins AMA championships, X-games and AMA SM champ. He's had a pretty full life.
Pastrana like Ricky Johnson pro at 12, gone from SX/MX mostly by 19, 20. But dude knows how to live and live life to fullest while I'm sitting here wasting energy vital to not take permanent dirtnap.

andymoto wrote:

Gene McKay......wow, remember that...Wardy was suppose to be sooo invincible... Gotta give him credit for the SuperMoto stuff, but now the dirt trackers like Burkhart will IMO will start dominating since most ride trails/mx in off-season, not sx. Wardy drives Indy and almost wins, wins AMA championships, X-games and AMA SM champ. He's had a pretty full life.
Pastrana like Ricky Johnson pro at 12, gone from SX/MX mostly by 19, 20. But dude knows how to live and live life to fullest while I'm sitting here wasting energy vital to not take permanent dirtnap.

andymoto wrote: Anyone mention Brian Swink.....John Kitsch...
Swinkster another that came outta mini/amateur ranks with all the promise of a McGrath. Seems he won a main;maybe no.
I always thought Bradshaw would be the man. He had the speed, but like JS, a crasher.
Untapped potential so many had, it is too bad and kind of sad.

andymoto wrote: Anyone mention Brian Swink.....John Kitsch...
Swinkster another that came outta mini/amateur ranks with all the promise of a McGrath. Seems he won a main;maybe no.
I always thought Bradshaw would be the man. He had the speed, but like JS, a crasher.
Untapped potential so many had, it is too bad and kind of sad.

ted wrote: how about jason schultz? or some ok tex local pros, dennis daft, carrolrichardson, clay hoenshell....a little more new school joey pratt, jack brassfield, whisperin smith, hank, clnt, jd or ricky walker, todd clayborne(sp) heath frazier, some of those guys were late ninties, but all hauled at on point or another. there is more okla and texas riders ill remember ....branden lacey...denny howard... anyone?

ted wrote: how about jason schultz? or some ok tex local pros, dennis daft, carrolrichardson, clay hoenshell....a little more new school joey pratt, jack brassfield, whisperin smith, hank, clnt, jd or ricky walker, todd clayborne(sp) heath frazier, some of those guys were late ninties, but all hauled at on point or another. there is more okla and texas riders ill remember ....branden lacey...denny howard... anyone?

ted wrote: few more, eddie cummings, trey owens, ty harris, rc bennet, rudy heathcott,.. fast freddie mitchell from ark.. man the memories.

ted wrote: few more, eddie cummings, trey owens, ty harris, rc bennet, rudy heathcott,.. fast freddie mitchell from ark.. man the memories.

andymoto wrote: Remember Whisperin; seemed like mid-later 90's Pro;
Yeah, Daft, Richardson and Hoenshell; Clay I think did the best. Remember those three, even here from Cali.; they were fast; no doubt.
Andy Medin
just over a year till 50+ class
oh hell Im gettin old....

andymoto wrote: Remember Whisperin; seemed like mid-later 90's Pro;
Yeah, Daft, Richardson and Hoenshell; Clay I think did the best. Remember those three, even here from Cali.; they were fast; no doubt.
Andy Medin
just over a year till 50+ class
oh hell Im gettin old....