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flyfishnw

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11/19/2009 7:38 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/19/2009 7:49 AM

Chris Taylor, name from the past... what was your GF's name in Yorba Linda, the one with the hot mom? thinking Shey or shenia or something like that..



Cool pics, great memories,, could not think of a better time to be involved in MX then the late 70's early 80's in so cal. Riding all over, great tracks, and where else can you stand next to a factory rider at the sign up booth? Watch Johnny O ghost ride his Mugen into the side of his truck after a moto? Drool over the R&D Suzuki bikes, Show up for a mid day practice session at saddleback and get recruited by japanies dudes in white coats to test ride the 82 CR 125 pre production bike, ride with laporte and Mahlbre at his practice track in yucca valley, corona GP's, watching fighter jets land at el toro between motos at OCIR, the sprint at corona for a gate position, sunday amateur supercross racing, good times for sure..

Dropbear

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11/19/2009 1:18 PM

Webcokid wrote:
It was the 1979 250 Nationals. That's Magoo, Tripes, and Hannah hitting Banzai. This is and was the best race I have ever seen. They haddn't run Banzai all year and the weeds had grown back. They outlined the track and ran the section and included the uphill back up to the top of the starting line, which was 4 foot tall weeds as well. Well, Larry Huffman was going off on this day and can remember him screaming Hannah,now it Tripes, etc. It was a real dice to the finish on each moto and the racing was close. Hannah passed tripes on the top jump section that lead to suicide hill. He went soaring by in Hannah fashion with his sholders well stretched over the bars. This was agreat day and is ever engrained as one of my best reace experiences of all time!

I was there!!

I was 14 yo and in LA for the World Mini, and this was the weekend before. I cant believe how lucky I was to be there that day. Only US National I've ever seen and it was that one.

I was standing at the Magoo doubles, the crowd had jumped the fence and was lining the track. Burned into my memory.

flyfishnw

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11/19/2009 2:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/19/2009 2:07 PM

Yep, Hannah Magoo doubles,, next week I was going to do them on my 80, would get a run, then chicken out... I think Troy Blake was the 1st 80 that I saw jump it.



Troy was a cool cat, spent some time with him at the Suzuki MX school at Carlsbad. We clicked and hung out, I was trying not to be star struck, but he was who I wanted to be like. When I moved up to 125's,,, Rudy Dickenson,,, man I wanted to beat him so bad. He owned the 125 Int class at Saddleback.

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11/19/2009 2:33 PM
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anniebertmojo wrote: Exiting the left turn on top of Webco.... riding for Anaheim Husky - 1980.... Even though I was on a Suzuki at the time, Payton always helped me out.

Mini Elsinore wrote: I used to hang out some in that old dry cleaners known as Anaheim Husky---and the Naugles down the street. Just liked being around the place. One day when I was around 13, Payton told me to "buy something or get the hell out!" I thought he was serious and slinked off . He told another buddy later, "I was just joking, tell him to get his ass back in here." Crusty ole bastard even back in the day........but a seriously good dude.

anniebertmojo wrote: Naugles... oh god, it totally forgot about that place. Payton used to have me go get food for everybody all the time on Saturday's after Saddleback Saturday from that dive. After racing, we would all head over to the shop and work on the bikes so we could get ready for Sunday's CMC race at Saddleback or Carlsbad. When I first started going to the shop on Saturdays, he was working on the Husky CR125 that Craig Dale rode. Rings after every moto and new piston and rings every race. The thing was a ticking time bomb LOL. The stories I have from that shop off Lincoln (and the LaPalma shop) are classic.... Jeff Jennings, Tony D, Bill Keefe, Mike Guerra, Troy Lee... they are timeless. Great way to grow up as a teenager, ask Sondra... she knows what I'm talking about with the stories.

more Saddleback pics... 1982

I used to follow Jennings around like a puppy dog. I'm sure he got sick of a little kid shadowing him, but he never showed it----always very cool. I ran JT boots because he did, same thing with the "MX West" sticker on my bike. But, Jeff always caught the most hell around that place! Good times.

"To learn who rules, you simply find out who you aren't allowed to criticize."
-Voltaire.

Webcokid

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11/19/2009 3:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/19/2009 3:31 PM


Here is a picture I took at the 1982 Golden State Series. This is the corner that took you back up to Banzai. It was tall weeds in the morning during practice, and here in the last moto of the day, you can see Glover stirring up a healthy roost as he approaches. You got love the glove! I think he works for Dunlop now.

dr516

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11/20/2009 10:02 AM

Who was the kid (I believe to be the first team Tamm rider) I raced there every Saturday from 83 until it closed. Lived for the 45min motos

Webcokid

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11/20/2009 11:32 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/20/2009 11:32 AM


Who can name this former mini star. Here is at Saddle back before a moto. His nickname began with a "D"

Sondy132001

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11/20/2009 12:09 PM

Webcokid wrote:
Who can name this former mini star. Here is at Saddle back before a moto. His nickname began with a "D"

Oh Please Ronnie Lechien and he just got married I heard too !!

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11/20/2009 12:14 PM

anniebertmojo wrote: Naugles... oh god, it totally forgot about that place. Payton used to have me go get food for everybody all the time on Saturday's after Saddleback Saturday from that dive. After racing, we would all head over to the shop and work on the bikes so we could get ready for Sunday's CMC race at Saddleback or Carlsbad. When I first started going to the shop on Saturdays, he was working on the Husky CR125 that Craig Dale rode. Rings after every moto and new piston and rings every race. The thing was a ticking time bomb LOL. The stories I have from that shop off Lincoln (and the LaPalma shop) are classic.... Jeff Jennings, Tony D, Bill Keefe, Mike Guerra, Troy Lee... they are timeless. Great way to grow up as a teenager, ask Sondra... she knows what I'm talking about with the stories.

more Saddleback pics... 1982

OK You know how all you guys have Moto pics ??? I have a lot too but 75% of my pics are behind the scene/lifestyle pics...I have all the pics of the parties at Pro-Circuit for Halloween and the Birthday parties and all the fun stuff we did.

Ernie straight up the best time to be a teenager was in the 80's in Southern California with all the cool racers/riders we got to hang out with. And all the fun shit we did, I just started a Facebook for CMC go check out some of the old school photos hahahaha my dad in his OP's that look like tidy whitey underwear lol

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Webcokid

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11/20/2009 1:46 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/20/2009 1:47 PM

Webcokid wrote:
Who can name this former mini star. Here is at Saddle back before a moto. His nickname began with a "D"

Sondy132001 wrote: Oh Please Ronnie Lechien and he just got married I heard too !!

S

Ya, it was too easy for you. It's the Dogger.

wownd out

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11/20/2009 1:58 PM

Bout time Lechien settled down, man that guy was crazy, high on coke when he was racing, he always looked like he was riding over his head but maybe that's what happens when you do coke and try to race!?

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11/20/2009 2:15 PM

wownd out wrote: Bout time Lechien settled down, man that guy was crazy, high on coke when he was racing, he always looked like he was riding over his head but maybe that's what happens when you do coke and try to race!?

Thank you so much for that important bit of information. You just shit all over a good thread with comments best kept to yourself. Good work, shit stain.

wownd out

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11/21/2009 3:14 PM

Too bad for you if you can't handle the truth, bonehead!.

Proud American

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11/21/2009 3:32 PM

wownd out wrote: Too bad for you if you can't handle the truth, bonehead!.

Thanks for the history lesson ,Einstein. Don't know what we would do without you.

BobbyM

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11/21/2009 4:36 PM

scotty gillman was a bad mofo at that place too, great place to remember

"Just wait til SX hits the eastern part of the series...JS7 will dominate"

BobbyM

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11/21/2009 4:37 PM

lechien looking out of control?...you are the one that appears to be high my friend

"Just wait til SX hits the eastern part of the series...JS7 will dominate"

wownd out

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11/21/2009 6:19 PM

Bobby M, what the hell is your problem? are you following me on the boards? jesus get a life dude!. did you race with Lechien? i did! and just i just gave thought of my first hand experiences with him on many occasion.

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11/21/2009 7:38 PM

BobbyM wrote: scotty gillman was a bad mofo at that place too, great place to remember

I believe thats Scott in 4th place going down banazi.

Webcokid

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11/23/2009 3:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/23/2009 3:31 PM



Ok, I brought this banner home from the 1978 Trans Am at Saddleback, and I think Hannah beat Decoster this day. Can anyone remember, or touch on how it went down and what happen to the Trans Am Series. I was about 9 years old and can vaugly remember the race. I bet Sondy can shed light!

Webcokid

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11/23/2009 3:32 PM

Ok, we all know it's a free country, but let's try to keep the derogatory comments to a minimum. We all know Ronny had some fun, but that was a long time ago. Let's move on and realize he is agreat guy, and was an awesome racer.

anniebertmojo

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11/23/2009 7:10 PM

Saddleback Park has a FaceBook page now, along with CMC Motocross. Thank S, your dad in his OP shorts is way old school.

Great way to see the past and present. Old Saddleback photo's and meet up with old racing buddies.

Webcokid

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11/25/2009 1:16 PM


Check out those JT Racing overalls! Keith is a cool cat.

Webcokid

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12/2/2009 4:29 PM


Check out Danny Magoo heading into Webco after the holeshot. You can clearly see Banzai to the far left. It was closed off during this race.

Webcokid

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12/30/2009 8:42 PM

anniebertmojo wrote: Saddleback Park has a FaceBook page now, along with CMC Motocross. Thank S, your dad in his OP shorts is way old school.

Great way to see the past and present. Old Saddleback photo's and meet up with old racing buddies.

Saddleback was more than just a race stop for the AMA and the rest. For a no name like me, I think most missed the true essence of the park and how radical it really was. How about this Robby Gordon guy? Does any remember the off road race thy held for cars and trucks? They made this knarly track in the park and let em rip! Parnelli Jones, Dan Gerney, Garly Harlow. The park was more than just another Nma stop. For locals, we spent days riding after Christmas and new years. My dad would drop us off t the oak tree by Irvine park, give 2 bucks fir lunch and day see ya at 4. I would ride to the rental shack and buy a can of chilli from the vending machine. I use to marvel at those cool gloves Steve mcqueen and Malcol wore in on amy Sunday. 10$, wholly shoooooo. That was alot of dough back then. Anyway, I saw the first bike post and thought about my 75 GT 80. My dad picked us up one time and was amazed at what I had done to it. Those XR 75's were hot then and I wanted one bad. Dad was pretty crafty, as he showed me the new yz 80. Enough said. Saddleback was more than just another stop on the pro circuit, it the dump! Yes, when I was 4, we went to the dump to get rid of all out crap, and low and behold, I saw this huge procession of motocross people. Over the years, my dad dreaded the dump, because he knew I would ask when he would take me riding at saddleback. Can of chilli and some great personal tracks, what else could you ask for at the age of 10

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12/30/2009 9:15 PM

your so right!! i was an indian dunes guy . but my dad started taking me ther in 1981 and it was a love & hate at the same time. i was racing 80cc int and was used t kicking ass at the dunes all the time. but saddell bask was a diffrent animal!!! lots of hard pack and blue line and wen you went down you fn knew it!!!! saddel back made me a faster and tougher rider thats for sure!!! i would KILL FOR ONE MORE LAP AT THAT TRACK!!!! I MISS IT ALOT!!!!!!!

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12/31/2009 12:10 PM

I raced most every Saturday at Saddleback from 79-81, and then the Sundays when CRC was there....My late friend Pete Snorteland was a force there for a while...so was Radical Ron Turner--I remember him winning the 125, 250, AND Open pro races on the same day numerous times...How about some of the first practice sessions after they disked the track up--some of those clay clumps were as big as bowling balls! Metzler tires were golden on the blue groove later in the day...Maico Breako Big Mistakeo...lol Good Times!

If you don't crash once in a while, you're not going fast enough.

anniebertmojo

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1/1/2010 8:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/1/2010 8:59 PM

Out driving today and stopped by Saddleback for old times sake-New Years Day 2010









Saddleback Today.... mother nature has taken here back.

But she's still there and you can still smell the premix. Wink Felt good to go see the track again.







Road into the pits. Webco on right







Pits and Suicide Mountain in background. If you look close you can see the telephone pole on top of S.M. and the ledges







View from the bottom of the start hill. Since part of the start hill is now gone, I would think this part of the start is approx 30 yards up the hill?



Highsider

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1/2/2010 6:11 AM

Thanks, anniebert. We'll be cruising that area in our rental car, next week.

david631

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1/2/2010 4:24 PM

I just found this site. it's great. anyway, I raced at saddleback a lot. saw some great races there too. I remember rich eirstedt in the 250 support class (73 I think) on a fire breathing works low pipe honda decimate the field. also was there when tragedy struck. that was the day jim west was killed. there were so many good races there. I don't think any track world wide has had the no. of great caliber racers grace them as saddleback did. what ashame it's gone. as you can tell the memories are not.

david631

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1/3/2010 11:26 AM

I remember that day at saddleback. I also remember todd peterson. I 1st met him when he was sponsered on a bill bell prepared L.B. honda xr 75. a good friend of mine, steve moore was also L.B. honda rider. moore won the high school class one yr. at the L.A. coliseum superbowl. moore had a lot of natural talent. natural ability to the max!!! back to saddleback. was tripes on a yam or honda? tripes is at the top of my fav. riders list. he was the U.S. copy of joel robert. natural ability and a party mentality. this goes way back but, I remember tripes on a red montesa powered rickman metisse at osteen's cycle park. that place was off camber city. tripes was standing feet up just motoring. so smooth he made it look easy. I know I drifted off the subject but, that happens when I start reminiscing. good times for sure.
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