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Here are some of my memories of Saddleback Park.
I was out there practicing and racing several times a week during the early 80’s, unfortunately I did not take a lot of pictures back then but I remember it well.
I remember Bob Hannah testing a works RC250 before Golden State flying down bonsai hill, passing me in the air, rear wheel kicked out sideways ¾ down the hill lands and gasses it out of trouble. Those works Honda sounded so strong.That was the first time I was on the same track as factory racer and was blown away how fast he was.
Riding during the week on the main track and seeing Billy Liles on a works SR250 and remember thinking he had no chance against Hannah on the Honda.
That day team Honda was out there testing and took the famous photo with Lechien, Bailey, O'mara, Hannah and Magoo. Pretty cool to see all the greats there at once
I remember racing with Sam Storer in the 125 intermediate class, he had this cool weird gear with rats stitched up the seam, and I think it was from Australia. I had just moved up to intermediate class and he was one of the top guys. He was incredible fast on the KX80 in 81/82 and fast on the KX125’s too. He was a pro for a short while and then like a number of the fast mini racers just seemed to quit, similar to Paul Denis. I think once some of the mini stars moved up to the pro ranks the costs just skyrocket to race all the big events across the country. That may be one reason for some of the mini stars quit after they moved up to the pro ranks. Once I turned pro the bike needed to rebuilt much more often and needed many modifications, like suspension, engine etc. I hope he is doing well based on some of other posting here regarding him. He was one to emulate back then.
Watching Paul Denis on the KX80 and Larry Brooks on the R&D Suzuki going at it on 80’s. They were both nice guys but had a big rivalry against each other. I got to know Larry a bit better and my friend was his mechanic in 1987 when he was leading a 125cc national and the bike seized, he was really pissed.
Larry was out there quite a bit and I remember his dad was upset he was play riding in the back of the park all afternoon and made him do some hard laps on the main track before the sun went down. Ralph Brooks was a concerned parent, but not in an overbearing manner.
Watching Willie Surratt beat Larry at the NMA World Mini 1983 I think in the 105 class when Larry was heavily favored to win it.
Scott Brown was out there too. There was a small track in the back of the park cut into the side of a hill and I was with Warren Reid and remember seeing Scott there I think on the R&D Suzuki. That was right before Saddleback closed.
As I mentioned in the Bruce Bunch thread he was riding/racing there frequently. What a sight to see, I feel he may have been at least equal in accomplishments to someone like JM Bayle. There styles were similar too smooth and very fast.
Hanging out with Mike Healey in his motorhome at the world mini grand prix, another nice guy. He was riding CR80 for Honda at the time. Larry Brooks used to call him “Squealey” because he had the highest pitched voice.
The major factories would always be there testing the latest equipment, some memories are the following:
Jeff Wards works 1983/84 SR125’s as well as the 250’s.
R&D Suzuki’s cool semi works RM125 for Rudy Dickinson and that thing was fast, he pulled the hole-shot his first pro against some big name riders.
Dave Miller had some cool minis out there like the KX105 monster.
Seeing Kawasaki’s Todd Campbell’s new 83 KX125 prototype and watching his first pro race where he finished second place to Johnny O’mara and strong field of other pros.
All the handmade Honda works bikes were there and tested frequently by the factory riders, what a sight to see including all the great riders they had.
One day one of the Honda box vans was parked near me and it was Johnny O testing a bunch of bikes, both Jim Felt and Johnny were friendly and so down to earth. Johnny let Larry Brooks test a few Hondas while he was still riding minis for R&D Suzuki, shortly after that he left and went to race 125’s for Honda.
That same day I was practicing starts on my KX125 and Johnny O comes up next to me and wants to drag up the start hill. I was on my beat up practice bike and O’Mara was on a factory stocker for the CMC series and I remember thinking after that about how much of an advantage Ward would have that year on the KX. His CR barely beat my old practice bike.
Someone mentioned about Kehoe and Holland through webco, the fastest person I ever saw through there was Mark Barnett on a works Suzuki RA125 during the Golden State, I think either 82 or 83. He came blasting down bonsai and then would rail the outside of the corner a foot from the edge, going wide open through there, leaving everyone else going around there in the dust. All the others would try square it off (Kehoe) but Barnett was clearly the fastest rider through there and everywhere else for that matter back then.
I turned pro in 84 and was working with Warren Reid trying to qualify for the saddleback national. I was out there the week before the national with Warren and he introduces me to George Holland. We all hung out in my pro-trac trailer and chatted for a while. He was very cordial and mentioned he recognized me from riding on the practice track, for me at that point I felt like I made it in a small way. I was riding well that week and I think I finished 2nd or 3rd in the qualifying race and was really excited to race the national that year. I did not do that well at the national but just being a part of it was special. Going up Suicide Mountain during the national was pretty radical; it seemed so steep coming down too. The Magoo doubles were cool to clear too. It was very dusty as shown in the video for the1984 national.
Toward the end of my racing days I became friends with Jeff Ward after saddleback closed. We lived near each other and we ride together at nearby practice tracks. I met him through a friend and I remember when he called my house to ask me to go riding with him, I could not believe that Jeff Ward actually called me to go riding with him! I learned about how dedicated he was to racing by personally experiencing the rigorous schedule he would maintain, riding-training-preparation. I also rode bicycles with him at the end of my motocross days, he was in incredible physical condition and I actually got in better shape after I quit racing, by cycling hundreds of miles per week to fill the void of not racing motocross anymore. I still use the lessons learned from him today.
Thanks to webcokid for starting the thread and to everyone else for adding comments and photos!
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The quality of that video may be weak but dang! That was freaking sweet! The audio (sounds) brought back so many memories. I swear I can smell the dust and the exhaust every time I replay it.
Thank you for posting that video.
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Edited Date/Time: 11/3/2009 4:37 PM
 The infamous Suicide! I always thought it was harder on the way back down. Nearly killed myself a few times making the hard right hand turn at the bottom.btw: It's Bailey and Hansen
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Hey Webco! you never said who you are!!! what's your name? So far we have Chris Taylor, MX101. Scott Brown MR50, Me Charlie Osterday Wownd out, so come on i guessed your Lyle Mcpherson?
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Charlie, I sent you a message on your mail. I rode the YZ 80 in 1978 and 79 with Chris Taylor. I used to hang with many of the team members at Harry's like, Simon, Chip, and Tracy, Chris and Bruce. We were at Corona each Friday night and many days at Saddle back. That's me below at the World Mini Grand Prix in 1978 I think. You prbably won't remember, but my name is Tony Palmeri and they use to call me "Poof". Taylor took 4th this and I took 11th in the beginner class. Taylor was always faster then me, but Bruce was always two laps ahead of me, Ha! Taylor was a pro until 1984, and well, we all know how Bruce left us so soon.
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Charlie Osterday is in my top 10 of what I remember from Saddleback Park !! My buddy Joe "Hodad" Melton and I have been wondering for years what happened to you ??
And the person who said Carlsbad wasn't a premier MX track, you obviously don't know Moto..plain and simple !
Sondra
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Ouch Baby! That hurts, comming from you! Thanks for straightening me out.Your right, Carlsbad was a premier location. Warm Regards
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Edited Date/Time: 11/4/2009 2:22 PM
Here's a picture Tom Corley took of me at Saddleback late 1980.

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Your a cuttie! Hope to meet you in person at Anaheim 1 this year.
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The Man! Saddleback pit section
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My ol neighborhood friend Tom Cosley took these pics.
Early racing days for me, check out the kickstand! lol
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Edited Date/Time: 11/9/2009 3:53 PM
The Santa Clause Grand Prix at Escape Country: It was 1979 and I spent most of the night wrenching on my bike, as I broke at Saddleback the previous week. This was my major issue back then, I was the pilot and head wrench at the young age of 11. I use to ride my bike to Harry's for parts, and wrench at night after my homework was done. One time I got pissed and threw a wrench at the garage wall, so and mom locked me in the garage until I finished the top end. My mom was tough, and told me it was time for me to learn how to fix the bike. Thanks to Dave Taylor for all the help over the years. The 79 YZ 80 had a push rod for the gearing and would get tweaked if you threw the chain hard. The chain was a real bummer on that bike! I know it's not Saddleback, but it was just right up the road and it is engrained well in my moto memory. I recall the start and a huge amount of 80's screaming for the first uphill, which made a left and headed into the back country. I think the track was about a 5 mile loop and had some radical sections. Way out, I remember you came to a huge mound that took a sharp right after you went over it. Also, they had huge woops at the end of the loop near the start where all the spectators gatherd. I can't be sure, but I think we did three laps or about 15 miles, and two legs or motos. Needless to say, it was a blast and wonder if anyone else has some storied recollections of this place.
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Oh yea, that's where i got my first trophy! well finisher trophy, but man the start was huge i think it went all the way to the parking lot, and those big hills and offcambers, some things you could bypass so i did! and i remember seeing Donnie Hansen on his CanAm for the first time man i wanted a rotax engine that thing just seemed so cool and it was Orange! i remember most about Escape country was when we ran the European track with the insane hills especially for an 80 novice and all i wanted to do was get up those hills and i would do good i did and i got 3rd that day just by making it up the massive loose hills.
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Notice the Premier Yamaha jersey under the JT chest protector Paul Larrick who owned Premier yamaha was without a doubt the nicest guy i have ever know in the world of motocross.
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Notice the Premier Yamaha jersey under the JT chest protector Paul Larrick who owned Premier yamaha was without a doubt the nicest guy i have ever know in the world of motocross.
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Exiting the left turn on top of Webco.... riding for Anaheim Husky - 1980.... Even though I was on a Suzuki at the time, Payton always helped me out.

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Edited Date/Time: 11/10/2009 9:42 AM
It's a sweet pic, and the track looks fresh. Sometimes this was an easy transition turn, and other times they would make a jump right here, usually after the Golden State or some other big race. Then it was not so easy, at least for me. It would launch you pretty far down the hill then you best not miss the berm or over the edge you went. I think it had an s-turn section after and then towards the DG Doubles. Lastly, at the end of the day, this was a real slick area and got that shinny black, glossy look with loose sand spead over it. It was like ice and hard as a rock.
For example: One time I took the whole shot and was about 5 seconds out front. I came around this corner and never let the power off. I observed Kehoe and my pal Bunch doing this as they would make the turn. Both would leave the power on all the way through the turn while hitting the back break to slow them down. Well, I am not Kehoe or Bunch and ended up sliding out about half way down the hill. I noticed the foot peg left a goug in the dirt about 20 feet long as I crawled on my hands and knee to retrieve my bike. Well, here came the entire pack and I'm on my hands and knees. Shii, I grabbed the front wheel and pulled my bike to the side, and the last two riders went right over the back wheel and jumped over it. Needless to say, I was fairly pissed, since I blew the lead and banged my knee prettty hard.I finshed the race and moved to the Novice class the following week at Corona Raceway.
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Edited Date/Time: 11/10/2009 10:18 AM
Cool: I can't remember if they had us in different classes, or did they run all the 80's together? Those hills were knarly ! Glad you could touch on the subject, thanks CO
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I almost forgot about thos HUGE number plates & numbers!!!...LOL
The older I get, the faster I was
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They had us in seperate classes i remember seeing Erik Kehoe for the first time, he was way out in front!.
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Cool Buddy! I got your email and sent a reply. Wierd, because I replied last week, so maybe the e-mail did not get to you. Let me know if you got my e-mail.
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One of my biggest regrets in life is that I never made it down to Saddleback before it closed. Saddleback was about a four hour drive from where I grew up in Santa Barbara. I got to race some legendary tracks like Indian Dunes, Valley Cycle Park and even Baymare a couple of times before it closed in ’75 but never made it down to Saddleback.
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Thanks for the picture props Webco - I've got great memories of the hill. Going up and down. But the one that stand out the most is this... I was battling it out in the 250 Int. class at Saddleback Sat. (loved racing Saturdays, long 30 minute motos). 1st -5th were all together and were coming up to lap a 125 rider. Well I was running 3rd and as I passed the 125 rider he goes down and I hit him at full speed going down the hill. Major F-You words were said, I bent his rear subframe rails and broke his RM 125 rear fender...my bars were bent, I'm all muddy, etc... after the race we find each other in the paddock shake hands and laugh it off. The rider I hit was the late Darren Matoda. He turned out to be a great friend until he passed a few years ago.
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I was at this race. My buddies and myself got recruited as flaggers which got us pit passes and t-shirts. I was 16 and had the time of my life. I am almost positive the person you see running around when Broc Glover crashes is me. That was my corner for the day. The video is not clear enough to tell for sure.
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Check out these old pics. Jody Wiesel I think heading to the tree turn at Saddleback. Also, ckeck out the sidecar racers on the back track. We actually raced this day on Sat; I think it was CMC. We couldn't believe they ran these things. Most were stuck in the mud most of the time, until the track dried out later in the day.
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I used to hang out some in that old dry cleaners known as Anaheim Husky---and the Naugles down the street. Just liked being around the place. One day when I was around 13, Payton told me to "buy something or get the hell out!" I thought he was serious and slinked off . He told another buddy later, "I was just joking, tell him to get his ass back in here." Crusty ole bastard even back in the day........but a seriously good dude. "Show me a guy who is afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat everytime."
--Lou Brock
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Majority of the races CMC raced was on Sundays and if it was a Saturday, it was on the main track and it was a Golden State National !
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Naugles... oh god, it totally forgot about that place. Payton used to have me go get food for everybody all the time on Saturday's after Saddleback Saturday from that dive. After racing, we would all head over to the shop and work on the bikes so we could get ready for Sunday's CMC race at Saddleback or Carlsbad. When I first started going to the shop on Saturdays, he was working on the Husky CR125 that Craig Dale rode. Rings after every moto and new piston and rings every race. The thing was a ticking time bomb LOL. The stories I have from that shop off Lincoln (and the LaPalma shop) are classic.... Jeff Jennings, Tony D, Bill Keefe, Mike Guerra, Troy Lee... they are timeless. Great way to grow up as a teenager, ask Sondra... she knows what I'm talking about with the stories.
more Saddleback pics... 1982

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Edited Date/Time: 11/16/2009 3:57 PM
 It was the 1979 250 Nationals. That's Magoo, Tripes, and Hannah hitting Banzai. This is and was the best race I have ever seen. They haddn't run Banzai all year and the weeds had grown back. They outlined the track and ran the section and included the uphill back up to the top of the starting line, which was 4 foot tall weeds as well. Well, Larry Huffman was going off on this day and can remember him screaming Hannah,now it Tripes, etc. It was a real dice to the finish on each moto and the racing was close. Hannah passed tripes on the top jump section that lead to suicide hill. He went soaring by in Hannah fashion with his sholders well stretched over the bars. This was agreat day and is ever engrained as one of my best reace experiences of all time!
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Webcokid wrote: This topic is broad and pertains to the birthplace of California motocross. Well, Carlsbad should be mentioned, but Saddleback was the premier location. I was never that fast, nor was I a former mini star, but I still take great pride in my accomplishments as an 80cc Novice class racer. For example, the Saturday CRC 45 minute motos were radical.
We showed up one sat. in 79 and they decided to run Banzai that day. Banzai on an 80 was pretty treacherous. Not to mention, the 80's always ran after the 250 class, so the track wasn't always in the best of shape. I won the novice class this day, since I was a local and had practiced the starting line and banzai the previous wed. after school. I took the holeshot on both motos and checked out. This was my day, my bike ran perfect, I did not get tired, no arm pump, and no hand"claw" from hanging on to a mono shock swapper for 45 minutes; oh and no get offs. I was also really stoked for a 11 year old, as I was so far in front, that I could hear the announcer talking about my lap times as I made the downhill trun after the webco corner. Remember, that was a hard left and took you down by the back track. I still remember hitting the Banzai dropoff, telling myself not to get squirly when I landed at about 70mph and can see it like yesterday. I often wonder how I would feel now after running a 45 minute moto on a 1979 YZ 80. I ran a luft shock, and the frames on these bike use to break from the pressure. To this day, I had never seen anyone run a YZ harder and faster than Eric Kehoe. Man, thoes 80 expert battles between Holland and Kehoe are forever engraved in my memory. Those were awesome times. I use to copy Kehoe on the start. He would start at the far right and make a sweeping cut off left turn to the corner at the top. Enough said, Kehoe and Holland, and Burnworth were the premier guys this year of 79. This is just one of my many recolections of Saddleback and cherish all.