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Most talented racer?

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5/23/2008 11:03 PM

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5/23/2008 11:05 PM

NW#599 wrote: Bruce Bunch, Kyle Flemming, and Rick Hemme. Truck hit by a train in Ponca.....I remember reading the article in Minicycle Magazine (I believe). Larry Brooks won that year in Ponca, right? Were these three killed before or after the race? Who knows the details to help refresh our memories (at least mine).

Also, where were you and what were you doing when you found out about it?

IIRC it happened before the races. The 3 racers had gone to a store in a rental car driven by a guy named Dana ? (can't remember the guy's last name). I heard that this Dana guy had been jumping the tracks and trashing the rental car beforehand and apparantly didn't notice the train when they crossed the tracks this particular time. Bonehead move on his part. The 3 kids were killed and Dana survived. His last name might have been Duke and he worked for an MX industry company that sponsored the racers.

I think I first read about this in Cycle News.
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5/24/2008 4:12 AM

mikey wrote: RC


I used to Windham, Lechien, Stewart, Bayle, Bailey, Huffman, McGrath etc.


I dunno though, maybe talent isnt all smoothness and grace? How many times has RC saved a WFO swap through the "hoops" or got squirrely in one way or another? Too many to list. I guess the records and his inhuman consistency speak for themselves.

NW#599 wrote: Bruce Bunch, Kyle Flemming, and Rick Hemme. Truck hit by a train in Ponca.....I remember reading the article in Minicycle Magazine (I believe). Larry Brooks won that year in Ponca, right? Were these three killed before or after the race? Who knows the details to help refresh our memories (at least mine).

Also, where were you and what were you doing when you found out about it?

TG130 wrote: IIRC it happened before the races. The 3 racers had gone to a store in a rental car driven by a guy named Dana ? (can't remember the guy's last name). I heard that this Dana guy had been jumping the tracks and trashing the rental car beforehand and apparantly didn't notice the train when they crossed the tracks this particular time. Bonehead move on his part. The 3 kids were killed and Dana survived. His last name might have been Duke and he worked for an MX industry company that sponsored the racers.

I think I first read about this in Cycle News.

Dana was an Oakley rep. It happened after the second day of racing. Brookes was goimg to be in that car too but he had to go to a meeting with his team manager, his bike was being protested and they wanted him there.

They were all going back to the hotel becouse the day was over and Dana was in a hurry to get there, he swears he didnt see the train but alot of people siad he was jumping those tracks earlier in the day. To this day Brooks still wont talk about it. I rode for Oakley and knew Dana, I can tell you he was messed up in the head about it as long as I knew him.

Bruce and Rick were gauranteed factory riders and Kyle was pretty fast also. I was a year or two younger and it didnt really hit me until I went to the first Kyle Flemming memorial race in Az. I really liked Kyle.
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5/27/2008 12:04 PM

Bruce Bunch's 1982 R&D Suzuki he rode at Ponca before his death.

Click on the link below to view information and pictures of the bike. A guy bought it from R&D and it is in perfect restoration condition.

http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:d2hnJE5NhqsJ:www.vintagefactory.com/arm_pump_4.2.08.htm+%22Bruce+Bunch%22+Suzuki&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us
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5/27/2008 12:33 PM

It was Duke Dana - came from the BMX world, same as Kyle Flemming.
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5/27/2008 1:42 PM

NW#599 wrote: It was Duke Dana - came from the BMX world, same as Kyle Flemming.

I thought that was his name. The question is - How in the hell did he not see that train coming ? This kind of "accident" happens all too frequently around the country. I mean, a train is pretty big and easy to see as well as being pretty loud.
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5/27/2008 2:25 PM

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5/27/2008 2:34 PM

The article I read from the accident is that the train came from behind a lumber store...the sun was dropping and facing right into the cars front windshield. There was only a blinking train light signal that was hard to see because of the sun. So that was the original "official" statements made to the press. Later, obviously I have read that he was crossing the tracks and ignoring the signal all weekend long. The article also stated that they were in a truck and just got done racing and were running to get some food before the trophy presentations.

Both Bruce bunch and Rick Hemme were 16, while Kyle Flemming was 13.

Rick Hemme finished 4th, 2nd, and in his very last race, a 1st place that day.
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5/27/2008 6:10 PM

NW#599 wrote: The article I read from the accident is that the train came from behind a lumber store...the sun was dropping and facing right into the cars front windshield. There was only a blinking train light signal that was hard to see because of the sun. So that was the original "official" statements made to the press. Later, obviously I have read that he was crossing the tracks and ignoring the signal all weekend long. The article also stated that they were in a truck and just got done racing and were running to get some food before the trophy presentations.

Both Bruce bunch and Rick Hemme were 16, while Kyle Flemming was 13.

Rick Hemme finished 4th, 2nd, and in his very last race, a 1st place that day.

i also remember bruce had a broken wrist and was racing with a cast on that day...and he was still up around the top 5...

by the way, that bike was bruce's 1981 bike...the last bikes he was on were single shock bikes....
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5/29/2008 7:50 AM

oldx (MD) wrote: Raw talent, maybe Tripes.

I'd say Tripes also. Feet up through the corners, butta smooth style.
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6/13/2008 1:59 AM

McGrath, Stefan Everts
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6/17/2008 10:55 AM

Most talent? I vote for Jojo Keller. He was never the fastest, the luckiest or the fittest but he could sure do some wild stuff on a dirt bike
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6/17/2008 6:54 PM

The Zhart brothers weren't the most talented, perhaps, but they were quick.
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6/26/2008 5:47 PM

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6/26/2008 6:06 PM

Scott Kalisch wrote: Robbie Reynard has so much talent...i hope he rides the wheels off that CRF this summer.

Damn Quads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DId you see that jump when he hit the 'thumb' on the great ride open? sickest jump ive even seen, no one can whip like that guy.
far as pure speed its rick johnson
pure talent it was ron lechein
maybe RC nowadays i havent been watcing for years and years heres the link the renner whip. near the end of the video. also clowers catches absurd air

http://video.aol.com/...OABYMCkQAzgouyaqqnWs
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6/27/2008 1:55 AM

Scott Kalisch wrote: Robbie Reynard has so much talent...i hope he rides the wheels off that CRF this summer.

Damn Quads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goat breker wrote: DId you see that jump when he hit the 'thumb' on the great ride open? sickest jump ive even seen, no one can whip like that guy.
far as pure speed its rick johnson
pure talent it was ron lechein
maybe RC nowadays i havent been watcing for years and years heres the link the renner whip. near the end of the video. also clowers catches absurd air

http://video.aol.com/...OABYMCkQAzgouyaqqnWs

You got them confused......Robbie Reynard is the Mxer, Robbie Renner is the Fmxer !!!
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6/28/2008 8:57 AM

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6/28/2008 8:59 AM

NW#599 wrote: Bruce Bunch, Kyle Flemming, and Rick Hemme. Truck hit by a train in Ponca.....I remember reading the article in Minicycle Magazine (I believe). Larry Brooks won that year in Ponca, right? Were these three killed before or after the race? Who knows the details to help refresh our memories (at least mine).

Also, where were you and what were you doing when you found out about it?






Ricky was a friend of mine.
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9/30/2009 4:26 PM

NW#599 wrote: Bruce Bunch's 1982 R&D Suzuki he rode at Ponca before his death.

Click on the link below to view information and pictures of the bike. A guy bought it from R&D and it is in perfect restoration condition.

http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:d2hnJE5NhqsJ:www.vintagefactory.com/arm_pump_4.2.08.htm+%22Bruce+Bunch%22+Suzuki&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

FYI:
If this bike has the red Kurnut shocks, then it is not the actual 82' full floater. The full floater in 82 was a single shock. Just an FYI! and the guy on vintage factory is mistaken.
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10/2/2009 10:55 AM

CARLA and HEIKOLA is the beast of MX
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10/3/2009 3:43 PM

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mosslander wrote: CARLA and HEIKOLA is the beast of MX

Actually Mikkola was (1) of the best riders I have ever seen, very smooth and fluid always looking for results not always 1st place, In the End he would WIN. He was a Classic thinking rider! Work was his Motto. Not Pleasure! I was at Carlsbad when Mikkola won with a broken collarbone 1978 I think. How many rider's today could win a overall with a 1 week old broken collarbone!
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10/3/2009 6:37 PM

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10/3/2009 7:00 PM

Of all time? I was always a big Roger DeCosta fan!
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10/9/2009 11:52 AM

Erik Geboers was the first to win 125,250 and 500 GP but never raced AMA season?
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10/9/2009 11:56 PM

Pure talent it was Ron Lechein



MXDN 1988 Villars sous Ecot (France)
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10/11/2009 10:53 PM

If we could hold one race for all the marbles with every rider in the peak of their career riding equal bikes on a good, challenging outdoor track I don't think anyone could touch Ricky Johnson.
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10/12/2009 1:34 PM

HansiKursch wrote: If we could hold one race for all the marbles with every rider in the peak of their career riding equal bikes on a good, challenging outdoor track I don't think anyone could touch Ricky Johnson.

X2 one of my favorites no fake run here
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10/12/2009 5:54 PM

Burleson in the trees, Malcom in the desert and Roger D in MX???? Hard question to answer so many guys that could tear it up. Jobe, Glover, Wardy, Aberg, Ake Jonson(late bloomer), Barnett,................too many to name. By the way I named my first son after Bengt Aberg and my third son after Rossi.
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10/13/2009 12:16 AM

Joel, Roger, Sylvan Geobors(sp?), JN Roberts, And Bobby Myers, Timmy Aston, Rodney Harringer, Spud Walters, And Ake Johmson. Adolph Weil was meanest! Well, maybe Bad Boy Berluti!!! Back to talented: John Desoto and Hollywood Holley. Chuck Sun.
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10/13/2009 3:33 PM

I watched Dick Mann get a top ten finish riding a BSA thumper in 1971 racing the best in the world at a Trans-Am motorcross race at the old Orlando Sports Stadium. I think he was over 35 at the time. He was the Mann.
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10/13/2009 6:44 PM

Nuklear wrote: Joel, Roger, Sylvan Geobors(sp?), JN Roberts, And Bobby Myers, Timmy Aston, Rodney Harringer, Spud Walters, And Ake Johmson. Adolph Weil was meanest! Well, maybe Bad Boy Berluti!!! Back to talented: John Desoto and Hollywood Holley. Chuck Sun.

yer a very smart man of motocross...that is apparent! Smile
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10/15/2009 11:25 AM

Nuklear wrote: Joel, Roger, Sylvan Geobors(sp?), JN Roberts, And Bobby Myers, Timmy Aston, Rodney Harringer, Spud Walters, And Ake Johmson. Adolph Weil was meanest! Well, maybe Bad Boy Berluti!!! Back to talented: John Desoto and Hollywood Holley. Chuck Sun.

Don't forget Rex Staten
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10/19/2009 12:58 AM

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10/19/2009 1:03 AM

Yea, Rocket Rex and another "jet-setter" Rodney "Rocket Man" Smith. Tim Hart. Danny Turner in the mud! Sean Wooten. Larry Rippencrouger (no way remember how it's spelt!), Larry Wosick. He was one hell of a boater too - Holiday Inn style...Jimmy Ellis, Tony D, Broc Glover.
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11/5/2009 8:52 PM

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