2/10/2006 10:48 AM
Most talented racer?
peeps srPosts: 404 Joined: 8/15/2006 Location:
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I wish the shit I had pictures, but I saw Tripes win a moto (think he got the overall too) at a winter series race in Jacksonville, Fl. What made it so unique was that, he NEVER sat down the whole damn race. The track was a whooped out sand shit, and he rode on the pegs the entire race. He could rail a corner as good as anyone standing the fuck up!
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2/10/2006 10:50 AM David Thorpe, England, 3 World champs, How many?
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ninety3Posts: 985 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location:
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2/10/2006 10:52 AM ![]() David Thorpe, England, 3 World champs, How many?Poor Thorpy, no one will ever forget O'Show blowing by him on a 125. Olds Cool |
peeps srPosts: 404 Joined: 8/15/2006 Location:
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2/10/2006 10:53 AM This is what I'm talking about.
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2/10/2006 10:55 AM ![]() fte..remember when he went by hannah and wienert and howerton like they were going backwards at searspoint? hannah wasn't passed and pulled on by very many people...tripes made him look silly.That was among the most impressive things I have seen in motocross. To begin, the battle in the lead group, which was Hannah, Weinert, Howerton, Sun and Ellis I think, was viscious -- Hannah and Weinert especially. The track was gnarly NorCal baked clay natural terrain. Tripes looked slow, came up to them and sliced through them guys like a hot knife through butter and won by 20 seconds or something. And he never looked fast. But I don't recall him making it through the other moto. Pretty typical. |
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2/10/2006 11:02 AM ![]() ![]() That was among the most impressive things I have seen in motocross. To begin, the battle in the lead group, which was Hannah, Weinert, Howerton, Sun and Ellis I think, was viscious -- Hannah and Weinert especially. The track was gnarly NorCal baked clay natural terrain. Tripes looked slow, came up to them and sliced through them guys like a hot knife through butter and won by 20 seconds or something. And he never looked fast. But I don't recall him making it through the other moto. Pretty typical. The wet grassy hills in practice, all the off-cambers, that track was wicked, they just don't build em like that these days. Remember it like it was yesterday, also recall Magoo wrapping his Maico up in Snow Fence trying to pull off a typically impossible move. Olds Cool |
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2/10/2006 11:10 AM Sounds like Tripes was the Windham of his day. I'm still amazed at how easy KW can make it look sometimes. I remember just this last year at Red Bud he passed Bubba and pulled away. Of course Bubba let him by I believe because he kind of took him out in the 2nd corner before LaRocco's Leap. Anyway, KW looked like he was on a trail ride riding around in 2nd behind RC.
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mikeyPosts: 100 Joined: 4/08/2007 Location:
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2/10/2006 11:13 AM RC was 30-40 sec ahead by that time though s:D
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ninety3Posts: 985 Joined: 8/16/2006 Location:
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2/10/2006 11:16 AM ![]() Hes got to be very comfortable at that pace........just makes me wonder how much more Carmichael really has? I'm thinking he has more speed than he admits.Your not alone on that thought. He wasn't seriously challenged at all outdoors in 05' Olds Cool |
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2/10/2006 11:47 AM ![]() ![]() Your not alone on that thought. He wasn't seriously challenged at all outdoors in 05' Unless you count exhausted 250-class rookies trying to jump on his back..... "You can sheer a sheep many times, but skin him only once."
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2/10/2006 12:59 PM 199!!!
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2/10/2006 1:58 PM Joel Robert, perhaps? 6 time world 250 champ. 5 in a row.
Who else could smoke, drink and stay out all night, and come in the next day and smoke everybody? (no pun intended)
Skimming the front wheel.... "...four-strokes are only competitive because they were given an enormous displacement advantage back in 1998." MXA. 3/11/2008 |
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2/10/2006 2:10 PM I think i saw Tripes win Atlanta in 76? I remember Johnny Borders was there and didn't qualify. Still BobbyM will always be the fastest in my heart... s
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2/10/2006 2:17 PM Reynard is another one very talented.
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2/10/2006 2:22 PM and Rob Herring- on his day he was untouchable- I remember Everts saying after a race Herring won (and beat Stefan) If he rode like that all the time he would have been world Champion -later Rob admiotted maybe riding came to easy for him, so he didnt have the work ethic, insaying that he was still a multi time British Champion, GP winner and MXDN winner lol
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2/10/2006 2:23 PM ![]() Reynard is another one very talented.And sadly, very fragile. "You can sheer a sheep many times, but skin him only once."
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RussSPosts: 183 Joined: 8/01/2006 Location:
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2/10/2006 4:09 PM ![]() and Rob Herring- on his day he was untouchable- I remember Everts saying after a race Herring won (and beat Stefan) If he rode like that all the time he would have been world Champion -later Rob admiotted maybe riding came to easy for him, so he didnt have the work ethic, insaying that he was still a multi time British Champion, GP winner and MXDN winner lolHerring wouldn't nmake it into the 100 most talented riders s Damn this is gonna hurt ... big-time
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2/10/2006 4:24 PM ![]() ![]() Skimming the front wheel.... He has my vote. Hell I was named after him, I better vote for him. The Perez Hilton of Vitaldrive.com |
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2/10/2006 5:35 PM ![]() I've gotta ask, how many people could go out and win on a stock machine like Lechien did?I think windham is pure grace/style/natural ability & talent... he's the epitomy of it. And Bruce Buhr is pretty fucking good too. Hannah won a couple of Winter-am rounds in 78 on a production YZ250E. Watched them raffle it of at Sunshine when he was done with it. |
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2/10/2006 5:51 PM What part of the word GOAT do people not understand?
The older I get, the faster I was. Posting without a cast on is fun! |
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2/10/2006 8:56 PM ![]() For all around rider I would have to say Dick Mann. He won at the pro level in every discipline he tried. Flat track, TT, Scrambles, Desert, Road Racing & Motocross. Guess that puts a date on me.I agree. And he hasn't stopped. |
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2/10/2006 11:27 PM If you're talking pure talent then you need to weed out the hard workers and trainers. Ex - As GOAT as he is, RC works harder than everyone else. So how much of that is talent? Take away his training and work habits and throw in some party ways ... would he still lap the field? Could he still pull off those saves and moves if he was out of shape?
We'll never know but for pure talent the list should probably feature the slackers of the sport that were still very fast. Since they didn't train and weren't afraid to party then they were mostly running on pure talent. M. Tripes, J. Robert, R. Lechien ... maybe Bayle ... The majority of the other names mentioned trained and worked really hard at the sport. |
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2/11/2006 3:02 AM ![]() Rich Cain |
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2/11/2006 3:45 AM ![]() For all around rider I would have to say Dick Mann. He won at the pro level in every discipline he tried. Flat track, TT, Scrambles, Desert, Road Racing & Motocross. Guess that puts a date on me.I'm #3 to vote for Bugsy. First rider to do the Grand Slam and rode the ISDT on several occasions. One year he rode for BSA on the Grand National circuit then rode a 500 four stroke for them in the Trans-AM that Fall. He did what TP is trying to do and with a lot less drama. My wife calls you guys the Yahoos. |
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2/11/2006 6:36 AM Windham, Pastrana, or Stewart get my vote
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2/11/2006 9:18 AM Lechien was the man when it comes to pure talent and mx.
Lechien's corner speed was extraordinary,... causally bent over in that hunched posture and wfo. |
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2/11/2006 3:58 PM Bugs just really transcends the whole question.
I think a lot of great riders could do what he did, but you'd have to love motorcycles as much as he does, and I don't think anyone does. |
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2/11/2006 4:09 PM Bubba.
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OW38B (MD)Posts: 111 Joined: 4/01/2008 Location:
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3/3/2006 9:46 PM Marty "Typhoon" Tripes.
Won more motos than anyone............without winning a championship. s Brian Myerscough a close second. ![]() |






peeps sr wrote: I wish the shit I had pictures, but I saw Tripes win a moto (think he got the overall too) at a winter series race in Jacksonville, Fl. What made it so unique was that, he NEVER sat down the whole damn race. The track was a whooped out sand shit, and he rode on the pegs the entire race. He could rail a corner as good as anyone standing the fuck up!